2nds Official Swans Academy Thread (Player News and Discussion)

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Also as if Google would waste money on a niche sport in a tiny country
More likely they'd buy a subscription service and eventually AFL would approach them, not the other way around. Already see something similar with Kayo under Foxtel.

It will probably end up a recreation of the old pay TV model, but fully online and integrated with the user's online profile, allowing for a highly customised "user experience" (read: advertising).
 

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Ok.

Thomas Longmire or however you spell it is not considered a legit prospect. I doubt he even made rams considering how little I've heard about him.
There really isn't anyone really draftable in the crop of 17s this year going 18 in 2021.
The under 16s going into under 17s I believe have a prospect named Will Sabolch from the Western Suburbs. Repped NSW in u15s and was named All-Australian u15. great size and weight too.
 

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Ok.

Thomas Longmire or however you spell it is not considered a legit prospect. I doubt he even made rams considering how little I've heard about him.
There really isn't anyone really draftable in the crop of 17s this year going 18 in 2021.
The under 16s going into under 17s I believe have a prospect named Will Sabolch from the Western Suburbs. Repped NSW in u15s and was named All-Australian u15. great size and weight too.
Longmire wasn't in the U16 Rams team in 2019. That would be the best guide to who was ahead in the pecking order before this season:

 

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Talking to my nephew at Christmas. The Academy has under 17s and under 19s now. I think this has something to do with the changed VFL NEAFL.
He is in the 17s this year. He liked the fact that Campbell, Gulden and Sheather go drafted. Said the boys he is training with have hopes of getting drafted too. All good.
 

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I am happy we gave a chance to Sheather. With 2 Cat B spots I think we should be trying to rookie at least one academy player per year and try to give them 2 years on the list.

Even if most of don't make it, I think the opportunity still has to exist.
We've gotten a lot better at it than before. In the last 4 years we've rookie'd 4 academy players via cat B.

'13, '14, '15 & '16 we rookied Perry, Foote, Murray & Fisher - all NSW boys
 

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I am happy we gave a chance to Sheather. With 2 Cat B spots I think we should be trying to rookie at least one academy player per year and try to give them 2 years on the list.

Even if most of don't make it, I think the opportunity still has to exist.
Agree. There's no point in a pathway that dead ends at 17. No incentive at all. The Mills, Campbell etc will always get drafted but the next rank also need encouragement. Just think of the number of jewels we have unearthed from our rookies. Rampe, Lloyd and Papley in this team.
 

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I am happy we gave a chance to Sheather. With 2 Cat B spots I think we should be trying to rookie at least one academy player per year and try to give them 2 years on the list.

Even if most of don't make it, I think the opportunity still has to exist.
We now have a VFL team that means the pathway can continue beyond 17 for many more players each year without bringing them on to the AFL list.
 

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We now have a VFL team that means the pathway can continue beyond 17 for many more players each year without bringing them on to the AFL list.
Not the same kudos as being on the AFL list.
First prize is being drafted
Second prize is rookie drafted, Cat A
Third Cat B
VEAFL is fourth prize, equal to SANFL say. Best part is you get to stay in Sydney.
 

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Not the same kudos as being on the AFL list.
First prize is being drafted
Second prize is rookie drafted, Cat A
Third Cat B
VEAFL is fourth prize, equal to SANFL say. Best part is you get to stay in Sydney.
Being in the Swans VEAFL team isn't equal to being in the SANFL. For starters, it is a higher quality league which will have better exposure. Secondly, the players don't have to relocate. Thirdly, they stay within their pre-existing development path with the Swans, working with the senior coaches and players on the roles that the club sees them as best filling.

I'm sure players would prefer to be drafted on to an AFL list than be on the VEAFL list, but when it comes to extended development for players who don't warrant immediate drafting at 18 it is a significant improvement to their opportunities to ultimately make the grade.
 

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Being in the Swans VEAFL team isn't equal to being in the SANFL. For starters, it is a higher quality league which will have better exposure. Secondly, the players don't have to relocate. Thirdly, they stay within their pre-existing development path with the Swans, working with the senior coaches and players on the roles that the club sees them as best filling.

I'm sure players would prefer to be drafted on to an AFL list than be on the VEAFL list, but when it comes to extended development for players who don't warrant immediate drafting at 18 it is a significant improvement to their opportunities to ultimately make the grade.
You have laid it out very nicely. I agree with you and Kiama Chris. The players have better options going forward than under the previous system.
 

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Jackson Barling has joined the Northern Bullants in the VFL.


"(Bullants coach Josh) Fraser was looking forward to helping him reach his potential.
“Jackson’s a really solid inside mid or half-forward,” he said.
“He’s another player we identified that we could bring into the footy club and help his development and give him the best chance possible to pursue his footy goals.”

As an overager one guy who clearly was affected by the shortened season in 2020.
Strong hands, but as a midsized forward probably needed the opportunity to demonstrate a bit more. I recall him getting a run previously in the midfield, without much impact.

Be interesting to know if there was a conversation about a spot on our reserves list.
Best of luck to him anyway.
 

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I’ve been told that Sam Gaden from the Academy 2019 draft year has joined the players from his year who’ve moved down to Adelaide to play in the SANFL - I think at South but I’m not sure on that. That makes five from that draft year who’ve gone down there. I was also told that a sixth player from that year is currently trialing down there at the moment.

When you then consider that Jacko Barling and, I believe, Lachie Swany are with the Northen Bullants in the VFL (or whatever it’s called now) that’s a fairly impressive number of young men from that year who are trying their luck interstate (plus those who’ve stayed at home and are hoping to play for the Swans Reserves). Best of luck to all of them!
 

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I’ve been told that Sam Gaden from the Academy 2019 draft year has joined the players from his year who’ve moved down to Adelaide to play in the SANFL - I think at South but I’m not sure on that. That makes five from that draft year who’ve gone down there. I was also told that a sixth player from that year is currently trialing down there at the moment.

When you then consider that Jacko Barling and, I believe, Lachie Swany are with the Northen Bullants in the VFL (or whatever it’s called now) that’s a fairly impressive number of young men from that year who are trying their luck interstate (plus those who’ve stayed at home and are hoping to play for the Swans Reserves). Best of luck to all of them!
It is great news that the local Swans are good enough to make it in the interstate comps. Makes us more viable to retain more kids out of our academy into the Swans VFL and into local Aussie rules teams in future years.
 

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Cal Twomey article regarding Northern Academy draft prospects;

Fresh from a bumper Academy crop that netted them top-five pick Braeden Campbell, gun midfielder Errol Gulden and rookie Marc Sheather, the Swans don't have the same top-enders available in 2021.
Marco Rossman, a running midfielder who was eligible for last year's draft, will be an option while Austin Ball, a small forward with sharp skills, key forward Liam Puncher and runner Felix Rogers also among those likely to be monitored.
 

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Thing is due to Covid last year we don't really know what we have in terms of prospects. 18 months ago Campbell was very much a "maybe he will get drafted" sort of player.
These are players who have been in the academy system for years. I expect the Swans recruitment team have a good idea of where the academy kids are at, but outside the inner circle we'll be a little blind.
 

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