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Essendon facing AFL and ASADA investigation over its supplements given to players
AFL boss Andrew Demetriou has long made known his dislike for the growing influence of sports scientists in the game.

Last night he said: "They (Essendon) have just started the investigation. They don't know what they have taken or alleged to have taken, they don't know the composition, and they don't even know if they have broken any WADA rules.

"They have come forward so I think they are entitled to the benefit of the doubt."
Essendon facing AFL and ASADA investigation over its supplements given to players

Here comes the blanched lettuce leaf after we came forward about our salary cap offences, yet were still hit with the block of flats.

Still bemusing that a club could be as stupid as Adelaide and Essendon after Carlton and Justin Charles.

There are no winners here bar the NRL who would be celebrating this news.
 

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"The Spew" will be putting on his bicycle clips on right about now - how is he going to explain to the AFL Commission this year that ANZAC Day will be AFL Collingwood -v- VFL Essendon.

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Geez, can still remember the day our mighty club imploded with the Salary Club thingy, and thought I'd never see a club cop it so bad within a day, but this is off the chart.
Not to mention the relentless crap the club copped over the Booze Cruise, and the media attack on Judd's leadership qualities.

I wonder how hard Caro and the media will go on the Bombers culture, leadership etc. on this issue - will be interesting to see.
 

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Not to mention the relentless crap the club copped over the Booze Cruise, and the media attack on Judd's leadership qualities.

I wonder how hard Caro and the media will go on the Bombers culture, leadership etc. on this issue - will be interesting to see.
Dont forget the Kreuzer Cup bullshit...
 

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I am walking around with a massive grin on my face... people will be thinking that I'm on drugs :D
tomorrow's breaking news.
WADA launch investigation into BF Carlton Board.

Yesterday, sources emerged suggesting a number of posters on the Carlton BF board have been using PEDs (Posting Enhancing Drugs). The board has employed often controversial practices to push the limits in the past, with rumours suggesting the use of herbal tea to aid in posting and recovery.

The scandal is closely linked to the Essendon players doping scandal yesterday, when it was suggested that a number of Essendon players had used questionable substances.

However, a source close to the Herald Sun has since discovered that since only Carlton cheat, WADA must first investigate all Carlton-related links, in this case, the BF Board.

Sources reveal several Carlton Board posters have been grinning recently, and much of their posting is off topic. The posting quality and attention span of many of the posters call into question the reliability of the PEDs, just as Essendon's win-loss ratio and general shittiness calls into question the quality of their doping agents.

The PEDs used on the Carlton board have not been condoned publicly by the mods, although a distraught poster believed he had been forced to sign a waiver regarding herbal tea. He couldn't remember though.

The side effects of the PEDs in question include a fascination with beards and hats.
 
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Looks like all Clubs that were connected to the Weapon and Steve Dank are being investigated.

When will this end. :eek:


GC links in Essendon anti-doping investigation



THE Suns are bracing themselves for an audit of their physical development programs because the two key sport scientists at the centre of the Essendon supplement scandal both spent time at the Gold Coast club in 2011.

Investigations have been launched into the supplement taking regime at the Bombers under sports science guru Steve Dank and Essendon high performance manager Dean Robinson.
The Suns are prepared to assist the AFL if investigators find a need to go over the club's 2011 practices.



GC links in Essendon anti-doping investigation
 

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Possible sanctions

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- World Anti-Doping Code penalties for using performance-enhancing drugs:
First violation - two years ineligibility;
Second violation: lifetime ineligibility.
However, the Athlete or other Person shall have the opportunity in each case, before a period of Ineligibility is imposed, to establish the basis for eliminating or reducing this sanction

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- The AFL has broad powers under its rules to penalise clubs and players it deems have brought the game into disrepute - clubs could face hefty fines and exclusion from the national draft.

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I think that the AFL will be the ones handing out the bans for any players and/or officials who get implicated in this... WADA and ASADA will be sitting around waiting to see what is done in terms of bans and if they think that the bans are too lenient they will appeal to CAS and get to hand out their own bans.

The AFL is going to be between a rock and a hard place if this is the case. If it is as systematic and as deeply involved as people suspect, then they will have to hand out some serious punishment or one of the two anti-doping agencies will come along and hand out their own punishments over the top of the AFL ones.

The AFL will be able to penalise the club. Hopefully they dont exclude them and just hand them a 0 points for the year punishment along with exclusions from the draft in 2013.

Ohh... and ban bomber and the golden boy for life for being a pair of wankers!
 
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From Essendon's Facebook page ........







Essendon's new slogan "Whatever it takes" doesn't sit well


WHOEVER chose Essendon's new slogan "Whatever it takes" must be having nightmares in the wake of yesterday's bombshell where the Bombers have asked the AFL and ASADA to investigate inappropriate use of supplements.

The choice of words is coincidental but it gives an indication of what is driving the push for a competitive edge in the world of professional sport.

Essendon's new slogan "Whatever it takes" doesn't sit well
 

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Explains why they started the season so well and fell in a complete injury riddled mess. Reminds me of the professional wrestlers, baseballers, etc. who have gotten on the juice for a while and then get off of it - they usually start out gangbusters and then seemingly when they're at their most invincible their bodies begin to collapse and get injuries.
 

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ASADA say peptides can be used by AFL players as a product, but not as a substance. o_O :confused:

Confusion forces Dons to seek clarity

Confusion forces Dons to seek clarity

https://checksubstances.asada.gov.au/

This is a question for blue gunslinger and Bluebear
Look at it like this - a drug is made up of substances. The substance of the drug create the product. Lets take for example Cottees Cordial. Cottees Cordial contains a powder base, flavorings, colors and sweeteners. These are all substances. When combined together they make Cottees Cordial - the end product.

Now, what this means is that unless they're contained within an over the counter or "ready to go" product such as a skin cream, a great number of which contain peptides, then they're illegal. I'm trying to find a list of products that contain peptides but I cannot find one. However, Olay skin cream, is one such product. Here is what their site says from a product standpoint.

http://www.olay.com/skin-care/skin-care-science/skin-peptides (sorry for the background color- its from the site itself)

What are peptides?
Scientifically speaking, peptides are tiny fragments of protein molecules: short chains of amino acids that naturally occur in the skin. Practically speaking, peptides are a growing trend in anti aging skin care!

What do peptides do?Peptides can allow the natural production of collagen and elastin, both of which plump the skin and give it elasticity. And both of which decline as we age. In skin care products, peptides can work together with glycerin to enhance the stratum corneum to increase hydration which in turn, helps allow the natural production of collagen.

Not surprisingly, the use of peptides in commercial products has significantly risen in recent years. Another peptide getting its fair share of attention is pal-KT. Expect to see more from peptides in the future.


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However, we're discussing peptides from a performance enhancing drug perspective... I found the following site: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/indepth/drugs/glossary/classes.html

Peptide Hormones (the substance by itself not within a product)

WHAT ARE THEY? Peptide hormones are substances that are produced by glands in the body and that, after circulating through, blood can affect other organs and tissues to change bodily functions.
EXAMPLES erythropoietin, human growth hormones, insulin, corticotrophins
WHY THEY ARE BANNED Peptide hormones serve as messengers between different organs that stimulate various bodily functions such as growth, behaviour and sensitivity to pain.
WHY ATHLETES USE THEM To stimulate the production of naturally occurring hormones, increase muscle growth and strength, and increase the production of red blood cells to improve the blood's ability to carry oxygen.
TYPE OF PROHIBITION In- and out-of-competition
EXCEPTIONS Chorionic gonadotrophin, and pituitary and synthetic gonadotrophins are prohibited in males only. Unless an athlete can demonstrate that the excess concentration of the substance was due to a physiological or pathological condition, his or her sample is ruled to contain a peptide hormone where the concentration exceeds the amount normally found in humans.

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So effectively what the Bombers are being accused of is using the substance ((HGH, erythropoietin, insulin, corticotrophins) as a standalone performance enhancer without it being in a product. Think Lance Armstrong if that helps without the glory - *******s
 
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