Analysis Oldest / Youngest lists, post drafts

[swiftdog]

im glad you asked; my point is 50% of the nominated youngest teams in the defined time period ... 50% of those won a flags, most multiple

some longer than the magical 7 year mark but still achieved ultimate success. If we go back to the last 7 years its a similar sort of picture.

having a young list doesn't mean you will get success in the future but it gives a better chance. in a league with tanking, drafts, the wins measurement isnt ideal premierships, grand finals, gives a better picture, i think.

Its true WCE only had a handful of their future premierships players like Kennedy and Richmond Edwards, Riewoldt but being so young also leads to future high draft pics to add to the process; Cotchin, Martin

more interesting is alludes to some teams falling off a cliff one day. but who and when? WCE? Hawk? Colingwood? Geelong? Richmond?

How can you conclude that having a younger list gives a side a better chance of winning a flag based on data from seven years ago (2012)? From that time point five flags in a row, 2012-2016 inclusive, were won by clubs that were among the oldest average list ages in 2012. It’s literally the complete opposite of younger teams are more likely to win a flag.

 

[BBC1967]

I see this list as a pointer to the future. Pies window closing fast if not completely shut as of now. Where are the young stars coming from? Where are the first round draft picks? They have thrown two first round draft picks on a bloke who unfortunately cannot get on to the park.

 

[Marcel Proust]

How can you conclude that having a younger list gives a side a better chance of winning a flag based on data from seven years ago (2012)? From that time point five flags in a row, 2012-2016 inclusive, were won by clubs that were among the oldest average list ages in 2012. It’s literally the complete opposite of younger teams are more likely to win a flag.

somewhat of a fair point but like others have said you are setting the bar high

pretty rough to disregard the GWS finals campaigns, Crows grand final, Lions excellent season etc.

the richmond first [modern era] premiership side was very young comparatively too

 

[kane249]

Oldest, youngest, most experienced: Where does your club rank?

How does your club compare in age and experience

www.afl.com.au

Club-by-club age breakdown

	Average Age	18-21yo	22-26yo	27-29yo	30+
1. Collingwood	24.88​	15​	16​	8​	6​
2. West Coast	24.8​	14​	15​	11​	4​
3. Hawthorn	24.66​	19​	13​	5​	7​
4. North Melbourne	24.66​	14​	15​	12​	3​
5. Geelong	24.65​	21​	8​	10​	7​
6. GWS	24.56​	16​	18​	6​	5​
7. St Kilda	24.3​	13​	24​	5​	3​
8. Essendon	24.19​	13​	20​	6​	3​
9. Richmond	24.01​	18​	13​	9​	4​
10. Western Bulldogs	23.99​	14​	21​	7​	4​
11. Port Adelaide	23.9​	20​	12​	9​	4​
12. Adelaide	23.87​	17​	16​	7​	3​
13. Melbourne	23.86​	13​	22​	5​	3​
14. Carlton	23.75​	16​	20​	3​	6​
15. Brisbane	23.54​	21​	16​	5​	4​
16. Fremantle	23.54​	20​	16​	8​	1​
17. Sydney	23.54​	20​	16​	6​	3​
18. Gold Coast	23.41​	19​	18​	9​	3​

 

[kane249]

Club-by-club matches breakdown

	Matches	<20	21-50	51-100	101-150	151+
1. Geelong	80.72​	19​	7​	5​	3​	12​
2. Hawthorn	80.25​	19​	3​	8​	2​	12​
3. West Coast	77.89​	14​	10​	5​	3​	12​
4. Collingwood	75.93​	18​	5​	7​	6​	9​
5. Port Adelaide	69.02​	22​	2​	7​	6​	8​
6. North Melbourne	68.95​	18​	5​	7​	8​	6​
7. GWS	68.87​	17​	6​	8​	7​	7​
8. Richmond	68.82​	20​	5​	7​	2​	10​
9. Carlton	64.33​	17​	8​	11​	3​	6​
10. Essendon	62.83​	15​	6​	11​	5​	5​
11. St Kilda	62.2​	18​	8​	8​	6​	5​
12. Melbourne	60.42​	17​	6​	11​	6​	3​
13. Adelaide	59.19​	21​	5​	5​	6​	6​
14. Western Bulldogs	57.67​	17​	9​	7​	10​	3​
15. Brisbane	56.15​	21​	7​	6​	6​	6​
16. Sydney	55.6​	18​	9​	8​	6​	4​
17. Fremantle	54.11​	18​	9​	11​	3​	4​
18. Gold Coast	52.08​	21​	9​	8​	8​	3​

 

[kane249]

Geelong the interesting one in terms of age breakdown

5. Geelong

24.65​

21​

8​

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A heap of kids, not many in the 22-26 category and then a heap in the 27+ side. It's not a very balanced list.