One for Mr Elliott to chew over...

[The Dutchman!]

This sort of dissappeared down the page and I thought some of you might be interested... besides I love niggling Carlton fans....


An interesting stat in that Carlton have only really got into the Premiership race since 1968 - ie: the money-bags era.

Prior to 68 they were a club with a very average history - hadn't won a flag for 21 years and only 3 since 1916! At the time they were 5 (count em) 5 flags behind Collingwood and 4 behind both Essendon and Melbourne.

Interesting, is it not, that in the era most associated with chequebook premierships (ie: the 70s to the early 90's) the baggers hit paydirt wining 8 (!) flags between 68 and 95 (68,70,72,79,81,82,87,95)

This is why everyone hates them. On reflection, it almost makes you feel sorry for Collingwood supporters.

How's that for some stats Danny Boy?

Dutch

PS. Thankfully, in the absence of "the chequebook" and in these post-draft times, I think I can see a team that will (hopefully) again "bring balance to the force"...

 

[Dan26]

In a universe filled with dualities, it becomes essential for Anakin to fall from grace -- to cross from side to side, and back again -- if he is to bring balance to the Force.


The poet Ted Roethke once wrote, "In a dark time, the eye begins to see." One cannot bring balance to something one knows nothing about, and Anakin must understand both good and evil if he is to fulfill prophecy.

There seems little doubt that Essendon will bring balance back. A "good" premiership to balance out the "evil" premierships that Carlton has won.

But if the Blues know the difference between good and evil, they can always come to the "light" and follow in the Bombers footsteps. If they are good enough. But are they good enough without resorting to the "dark side" ?

I doubt it.

 

[Dan26]

Essendon experienced the "dark side" with their salary cap breach.

Anakin (Essendon) brings balance by transcending the dualities of the Force, by realizing that he does not have to remain on the Dark Side (salary cap breach). For him, the Dark Side becomes a passage, the underworld or dark forest that mythic heroes frequently have to traverse – a pilgrimage foreshadowed by Luke’s trip through the tree in The Empire Strikes Back.

Vader’s act of atoning for his time on the Dark Side (salary cap breach) -- atonement, as they say, is another way of writing "at-one-ment" -- is also atonement with the rest of the galaxy (AFL). As Vader and son are reconciled, so Anakin is reconciled with his "father", the Force, the galaxy.(Essendon unite the AFL)

The separateness in the world of opposites, the gnawing gap between individual and galaxy, closes.

Anakin Skywalker has found balance in the Force. Essendon football club wins the 2000 premiership.

OK, I've probably gone a bit too far.

 

[Eagle_Fan]

Let me guess, you own the special limited edition of Episode 1? Why doesn't that surprise me?

 

[Grendel]

Isnt the fianl film of the new (?) trilogy to end with Anakin donning (Get it DONning yea yea I know, what you expect form a guy brought up on Benny Hill and Kenny Everitt)
the helmet to become Darth?

If this is the case does it mean that we now have the 'good'bomber and the dark ones are to come or is it vice versa and we have already gone through the bad times of the old empire (AFL jackson Colonical =
Empire Palatin Death star)?

Yoda (Aylett?) come back and when do the clones come in


*Grendel breaks into song

SEND IN THE CLONES THEIR ALREADY HERE

 

[Arch]

dutchy, just one single "balance to the force" comment, and look what you started !!!
getting back to the topic though- i think thats what weve always known about carlton. Thats why Elliots comment about us cheating the cap in 93 is even more galling. I mean, sure, we may have blown the cap, but who the f*ck is Elliot to complain about it ???? What a hypocrite.

 

[kevin sooky]

If my team wins the premiership this year thanks to TD and Shawry, it will not restore the balance but in fact upset the balance further as the evil forces will then have won 32 premierships between them.

Stop hiding behind a smokescreen of proletariat cliches.

 

[Sheeds]

Hiding??? good one coming from the BS KS

 

[E. McCHINS]

Look how crap Collingwood are. There is good in the world. (thank you god)

 

[The Dutchman!]

Yep Arch

You gotta love getting such an amusing reaction from not a lot.

Dan, it was only a quip.

That said I have always considered Carlton the Evil Empire due to their (Vadaresque) rape and pillage of other teams all over Australia for 25 years to buy shedloads of flags.

That said, I don't resent North doing it the 70s - maybe because that was a bit of a one-off for them, they hadn't won flags before, and maybe becasue they're not arrogant (ie: appreciate their success rather than expect it with a more to rule mentality - ie: comments like "tragic history" speak volumes).

But Dan, you are 100% correct in suggesting that Essendon (along with the rest of the clubs) went to the Dark Side (exceeding the cap) in 1993 - not anywhere near as far as Carlton mind you (even that year) but still - but now have paid their dues, and have reverted to type (ie: winning by building teams up rather than buying premierships).

End of the day you can't tell me that Carlton's 1993 side cost less to feed than Essendon's - they of the Sticks, SOS, Bradley, Williams, Brown, Dean etc brigade - us of the mostly 1st and 2nd year young guns...

And yes, this is beside the fact that they probably got Athorn for the smell of a wet fart...

Dutch

PS. I guess this proves that BS KS is a Collingwood man - that and his being very quiet over the past 3 weeks. I had thought he was a Carlton supporter... shows what I know huh?

 

[The Dutchman!]

Oh and BS KS

1. Don't leave Harvs out - if you going to run down Sheedys influence at least get the names right. (Even if he's still rated the most difficult coach to go up agaisnt by a group of his peers - see AFL website).

Also R.Shaw is such a great coach - did a fantastic job at the Crows didn't he????

2. Very impressed that you can spell 'proletariat'. I sorry you didn't find Dan's allegorical musings to your taste...

 

[Dan26]

Dutch,

If you're in London, how do you get your weekly footy fix (as in footage)?.

Here in Melbourne, obviously we get a glut of footy shows but there one show on Tuesday nights at Midnight caled the AFL wrap. It's hosted by Gerard Healy. Now, I THINK this goes all over the world (although at odd times, I'm guessing, and on odd networks, I'm also guessing)

Is this the show you see ? If not, what footage do you get (if any)

 

[Dan26]

NEWS :

Unknown actor Hayden Christensen is playing Anakin Skywalker in Episode 2.

Ryan Philippe (from Cruel Intentions) is playing Bail Organa. Bail Organa is Princess Leia's foster Dad who will take her and her twin brother Luke into hiding at the end of Epiosde 3. Luke to Tatooine, and Leia to Alderaan.

To see what Anakin looks like, go to :
www.sevaan.com/starwars/

P.S. Go Bombers (just to keep it footy related)

 

[Grendel]

Thnaks for the link Dan, lord knows there are more than enough 'Star' sites around but this one is quite good.

DarthGrendel (yes I member at the official site under that name) gotta brag about something.

 

[The Dutchman!]

Dan

Sources:

1) Yes, that goddawful AFL Wrap is on each week - very average... usually show a crap game and then leave out all the best bits,

2) Bomber Game Tapes - I've seen about 5 games this season via tapes that friends and family have sent over (out of the kindness of their hearts - thank Christ)

3) Realfooty.com.au text feeds. Pretty crap from an Australian perspective but the closest thing to Tim Lane on 3LO over here.

And obviously all the other web options.

That said, I got home for two games last year and hope to get home for the PF and GF this year... still can't believe the Dons are timing their best run in 15 years with my time OS. Them's the breaks I suppose.

Thanks for the Ep2 news.

Cheers
Dutch

 

[EWOK]

Saw the colliwobbles this arvo on tv. Understandable why the BS KS doesn't have the courage to come right out and support them and not pretend to be something he obviously would't have the brainpower to do. Then again he may believe it and that is a worry ( for him.)