One Player From The Past We Need Now - Who Do You Select?

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John Greening for me. 2 fold.

1. Was maybe going to be our greatest ever, his 1972 season til hit by O'Dea was breathtaking in a manner similar to Fyfes start of the 2015 season. He would be able to be used up forward and as a mid. Bringing back our best just makes sense. His excitement factor was Daicos on steroids. Carmen is the only other Pie to compare with Greening in that regard.

2. Giving him a career back now would correct a great travesty
 

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Peter Daicos.


Excerpt from a superb post on The Footy Almanac...

July 14, 2011 by Damian Balassone

1. 1981 Round 10 vs. Richmond, Victoria Park
After showing promise as a centreman, Tom Hafey swung Daicos forward in 1981. The results were phenomenal: 76 goals, including a bag of 9 against the reigning premiers on this occasion at Victoria Park. In this memorable passage of play, he utterly embarrasses two charging Richmond defenders by presenting them the ball – comically, they take the bait and crash into each other, while Daicos spins around and kicks truly.

2. 1981 1st Semi Final vs. Fitzroy, MCG
Pure poetry in motion, Daicos gathers the ball, evades a tackle, bounces while running in the opposite direction of the goal, perhaps pretending to get back onto his right, before swinging around towards the big sticks onto his left foot and kicking a goal.

3. 1981 1st Semi Final vs. Fitzroy, MCG
Daicos gathers the ball from Rene Kink about 30 metres out and wheels around on to his right foot. He seems to levitate in midair as he drops it on to his right boot, snapping a wonderful across-the-body goal. Later on, with the Pies 10 points down late in the final quarter (after surrendering a 40 point half-time lead) a set shot from Daicos closes the gap to 4 points. A minute later Ross Brewer goals. The Pies win by a point.

4. 1981 Preliminary Final vs. Geelong, VFL Park
Late in the final term Geelong lead by 5 points. Daicos takes a mark on the lead about 65 metres out, marginally in front of Ian Nankervis. What can he do? He handballs the ball over the head of Nankervis, outsprints him to the ball, gathers it back, and, as a desperate Nankervis trips over, Daicos straightens up and kicks the goal that sends the Pies into the Grand Final.

5. 1981 Grand Final vs. Carlton, MCG
A bullet like handball from Tony Shaw is tapped, almost caressed by Daicos’ right hand, with Ken Hunter very close by, before Daicos curls it around on his left foot for a goal.

6. 1982 Round 5 vs. North Melbourne, Arden Street
Daicos booted 6 goals in the third quarter of this game, the first of which was most unusual. With the ball in Collingwood’s forward line, team mate Mark Weideman’s stray handball bounced off the field umpire straight into the hands of the ultimate opportunist Daicos who screwed it around on his left foot for goal. Later on in the season, after the great Tom Hafey is sacked, Daicos is moved back into the centre by caretaker coach Mick Irwin. Daicos wins the Copeland and spends the best part of the 80s as a brilliant centreman, dodging and weaving, belly-dancing through packs, pinpointing teammates with precise passes.

7. 1984 Round 1 vs. Melbourne, Victoria Park
With the Woods 27 points down midway through the final term, Daicos unleashes a 65 metre torp from the boundary in front of the Rush Stand. It splits the sticks and triggers off 7 unanswered goals.

8. 1984 1st Semi Final vs. Carlton, VFL Park
A rare finals win for the Pies against the Blues and on this occasion Daicos booted 7 goals, none better than his first. The ball is bouncing in the forward line – in between a pack of 4 or 5 players – when Daicos gathers it one-handed facing goal, somehow managing to evade Wayne Harmes and Wayne Blackwell. The ball then slips behind his back, and his mouthguard almost pops out, before Daicos steadies, straightens and kicks a left foot goal.

9. 1984 1st Semi Final vs. Carlton, VFL Park
Daicos receives a short pass from Neville Shaw and proceeds to dance in front of his opponent Bruce Reid (father of Ben) before curling the ball around his body for a goal.

10. 1990 Round 2 vs. Carlton, VFL Park
After overcoming a serious knee injury (1985) and severe stress fractures of the feet (1987) Daicos wins a second Copeland Trophy as a centreman in 1988. Leigh Matthews moves him forward again in 1990. This time the move delivers Collingwood a premiership with Daicos booting 97 goals – a record number of goals by a non full-forward (ironically eclipsing Lethal’s record). On this particular occasion Daicos paddles the ball to the boundary line with the long-haired Tom Alvin half a yard behind him. Just before the ball crosses the line, Daicos gathers it and throws it on to his left boot, dribbling it through for his 7th goal of the afternoon.

Sidebar: we would have 100,000 members IF Daicos was now playing.
 

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Phil Carman

He would have belonged in this era.

Most gun forwards of yesteryear kicked bags of goals in their day - but their feats probably wouldn't translate into the modern game.

These days you can't just lean up against the goalpost smoking a ciggie and chatting up girls over the fence while you wait for the footy to come down your end ... Like you used to be able to do.

Carman was fit, he could run. He was a consummate professional (when he wasn't thumping blokes). He'd be a handy player today. And probably be at peace with the way the game is played these days.
 
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Daicos as that crafty forward, Jimmy Clement as the rock and I'd pay to see Buckley go around again.
 

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Danny Roach - put doing the team thing (ie. laying a tackle) before looking out for himself (ie. getting a kick). If that's not a shining example of buying in to Bucks' philosophy I don't know what is.
Harsh, kid had great potential until someone stuck a knee into his back taking a speccy at training in his first week at the club. Lost feeling in his legs as a consequence. Actually did well to get back to play that 1 game.
 

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Greening for mine, still the best I've seen at Collingwood.

It gets a bit harder after that with Daicos, Carmen, Moore, Buckley and Thompson on a short list.
 
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Harsh, kid had great potential until someone stuck a knee into his back taking a speccy at training in his first week at the club. Lost feeling in his legs as a consequence. Actually did well to get back to play that 1 game.
Who said I was being harsh? I meant what I said and I know the poor kid worked hard but it didn't pan out for him.
 

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Based on actual career I'd say Daicos from Millane. We need Daicos skill And creativity a bit more than we need Millane's toughness and drive but there isn't much in it.

Based on careers they should have had I'd go for Greening from Carman. Similarly gifted footballers who for different reasons never achieved what they should have. Had Greening not been felled he may have been our best ever player. As it was he was on the verge of taking the competition over like Carey or Ablett Snr at their best.
 

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Gordon Coventry
Simply a super star full forward. They take you a long way.
Would really help our forward structure, imagine if he three opponents would leave Cloke alone, just one opponent and a few on nuts Coventry - travis would love the pressure relieved
 
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