Oops Chris

[Snell1234]

And as I said, if this is what you honestly think then I'm not wasting anymore of Chief's bandwith discussing it with you.

Good day.

Re feminists - definitely. And a lot of people would be with me.

 

[Plugger35]

If it was just one incident he'd be staying. It's this list of incidents coming out now, not helped by Renegades CEO Coventry pretending they're bullshit, that's finished him.

Most of them pretty much are bullshit or at most overreactions, the changeroom incident has been denied by Gayle and unless that's proven then there is no valid reason for banning him from the BBL or booting him out of the country.

Inb4 you accuse me of being a Footy Show watcher again.

What, all of them?

Well, the male journalist didn't seem obviously uncomfortable, Mel did.
Male sports journalists don't face sexist, disrespectful shit every day, female sports journalists do.
Sharapova was sitting a fair distance away from him. Gayle (a very tall, large man) was standing right next to Mel.
There is a history of women being disrespected in the workplace like this. There is not that history with men.
The surfer wasn't at work. Gayle was.
We are in a period of history where domestic violence and violence against women is a disgrace in this country. Violence has its roots in disrespect. There is not that with men.
Women speak repeatedly about Chris Gayle being a creep and making them feel uncomfortable. There is none of that with Sharapova.

And that's just off the top of my head. So yeah, if you ignore all that they're basically the same.

Stop peddling bullshit, you have no proof to back that up.

Mel McLaughlin herself said that the Gayle incident was a one off incident and not something she usually encounters but of course you ignore that.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Stop peddling bullshit, you have no proof to back that up.

Mel McLaughlin herself said that the Gayle incident was a one off incident and not something she usually encounters but of course you ignore that.

And lots of other ones have said it IS something that experience every day, but of course you ignore that.

 

[Nikita Blue]

Women do not want equality. They want more than that. Now that they have got equality they still aren't happy and are pushing for more to the detriment of a cohesive and equal society.

Oh dear I hope you are just a troll and don't really believe this.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Yeah you're done. If this is your honest view of women then discussing this topic with you is a waste of Chief's bandwith.

Dissenting opinions are verboten!

 

[Plugger35]

And lots of other ones have said it IS something that experience every day, but of course you ignore that.

So there are two different versions of the truth from different female journos but you're trying to pass it off as a fact that all female journos face sexist, disrespectful behaviour every day.

I'm not the one making blanket statements without proof, you are, and now you're cracking the shits at being called out on it.

 

[Snell1234]

Oh dear I hope you are just a troll and don't really believe this.

I should have qualified it by not saying all women, but some. There is definitely a group of women, mainly feminists, who do want this. I stand by my comments but add the qualification for clarification purposes so that I don't lump the decent women in with the others who are being divisive in society.

 

[Snell1234]

So there are two different versions of the truth from different female journos but you're trying to pass it off as a fact that all female journos face sexist, disrespectful behaviour every day.

I'm not the one making blanket statements without proof, you are, and now you're cracking the shits at being called out on it.

Spot on.

 

[ManWithNoName]

So there are two different versions of the truth from different female journos but you're trying to pass it off as a fact that all female journos face sexist, disrespectful behaviour every day.

I'm not the one making blanket statements without proof, you are, and now you're cracking the shits at being called out on it.

Sorry where did I say "all, every single female journo"?

 

[carnthemlions]

Not all women - the women in my life are great. However, the women pushing issues like these are doing it because they see themselves as feminists. Feminists typically want double standards and in my view, want to be a superior race to males instead of living cohesively together.

'in my view'
Have you considered the possibility that your view may be wrong? Typical response by the way- "the women in my life are great, but I don't respect women in general because feminism."

Women do not want equality. They want more than that. Now that they have got equality they still aren't happy and are pushing for more to the detriment of a cohesive and equal society.

How would you know? Please provide details.

Most of them pretty much are bullshit or at most overreactions, the changeroom incident has been denied by Gayle and unless that's proven then there is no valid reason for banning him from the BBL or booting him out of the country.

Inb4 you accuse me of being a Footy Show watcher again.




Stop peddling bullshit, you have no proof to back that up.

Mel McLaughlin herself said that the Gayle incident was a one off incident and not something she usually encounters but of course you ignore that.

lel plugger.
At the very least, you have to admit that the bad publicity Gayle has generated is a bad look for a competition that markets itself largely to families. No franchise will want that, let alone the BBL at large along with CA. He's done. To suggest otherwise is pure stupidity.

 

[Snell1234]

'in my view'
Have you considered the possibility that your view may be wrong? Typical response by the way- "the women in my life are great, but I don't respect women in general because feminism."

How would you know? Please provide details.

lel plugger.
At the very least, you have to admit that the bad publicity Gayle has generated is a bad look for a competition that markets itself largely to families. No franchise will want that, let alone the BBL at large along with CA. He's done. To suggest otherwise is pure stupidity.

It's my view. A person's view cannot be wrong. But that is what lefties try to tell everyone - that based on them coming from a position of moral superiority, anyone who steps outside of their views are wrong and morally reprehensible.

 

[Snell1234]

'in my view'
Have you considered the possibility that your view may be wrong? Typical response by the way- "the women in my life are great, but I don't respect women in general because feminism."

How would you know? Please provide details.

lel plugger.
At the very least, you have to admit that the bad publicity Gayle has generated is a bad look for a competition that markets itself largely to families. No franchise will want that, let alone the BBL at large along with CA. He's done. To suggest otherwise is pure stupidity.

How do I know? See the Gayle incident. They have a problem with what Gayle did but then attempt to explain away what Sharapova did as being completely difference when, in essence, there was no difference at all. That's why they want more than equality. If they want to condemn Gayle - fine. But then don't try and argue that what Sharapova did is any different and any less deserving of condemnation.

 

[ManWithNoName]

It's my view. A person's view cannot be wrong. But that is what lefties try to tell everyone - that based on them coming from a position of moral superiority, anyone who steps outside of their views are wrong and morally reprehensible.

People used to be of the view black people were lesser humans. So were they right?
People were and are of the view that the holocaust never happened. Are they right?
Essendon fans were of the view that their club was completely innocent. Were they right?

 

[carnthemlions]

It's my view. A person's view cannot be wrong. But that is what lefties try to tell everyone - that based on them coming from a position of moral superiority, anyone who steps outside of their views are wrong and morally reprehensible.

See, that's the thing- you say it's your view, and a person's view cannot be wrong (are you from an alternate universe?). But you don't even attempt to defend your position and appear to have no evidence or knowledge to back it up. In that light, wouldn't you agree that it's reasonable to conclude that you opinion is in fact wrong?

 

[Snell1234]

See, that's the thing- you say it's your view, and a person's view cannot be wrong (are you from an alternate universe?). But you don't even attempt to defend your position and appear to have no evidence or knowledge to back it up. In that light, wouldn't you agree that it's reasonable to conclude that you opinion is in fact wrong?

I did defend it. Read the second post.

 

[carnthemlions]

How do I know? See the Gayle incident. They have a problem with what Gayle did but then attempt to explain away what Sharapova did as being completely difference when, in essence, there was no difference at all. That's why they want more than equality. If they want to condemn Gayle - fine. But then don't try and argue that what Sharapova did is any different and any less deserving of condemnation.

I don't follow. What does Maria Sharapova have to do with this?
I know what you're referring to, but it's clearly not relevant and I don't think I should have to explain why given that you appear to be an adult.

I did defend it. Read the second post.

No, you claimed that feminists have already achieved equality and are seeking to damage social cohesion or some such nonsense. You haven't backed that up at all.
I suspect that's because you can't, but why not give it a try?

 

[Snell1234]

I don't follow. What does Maria Sharapova have to do with this?
I know what you're referring to, but it's clearly not relevant and I don't think I should have to explain why given that you appear to be an adult.

You know someone's lost the argument when they say they aren't going to explain something because they shouldn't have to.

Explain why it's not relevant and how it is different instead of dismissing it from your position of moral superiority.

 

[Snell1234]

You know someone's lost the argument when they say they aren't going to explain something because they shouldn't have to.

Explain why it's not relevant and how it is different instead of dismissing it from your position of moral superiority.

Also explain why females have condemned Gayle but not Sharapova doesn't add credence to my argument that some females, mostly feminists, want more than equality.

 

[Snell1234]

I don't follow. What does Maria Sharapova have to do with this?
I know what you're referring to, but it's clearly not relevant and I don't think I should have to explain why given that you appear to be an adult.
No, you claimed that feminists have already achieved equality and are seeking to damage social cohesion or some such nonsense. You haven't backed that up at all.
I suspect that's because you can't, but why not give it a try?

I gave an example with the Sharapova incident and many female commentators view on that incident compared to Gayle's.

 

[Demons09]

And lots of other ones have said it IS something that experience every day, but of course you ignore that.

Blowing things out of proportion again eh.

 

[carnthemlions]

I gave an example with the Sharapova incident and many female commentators view on that incident compared to Gayle's.

Yes, and that's a great example of something called false equivalence- which is to say that it's not relevant to this debate at all.

Also explain why females have condemned Gayle but not Sharapova doesn't add credence to my argument that some females, mostly feminists, want more than equality.

See, that has nothing to do with the issue at hand, and doesn't prove that feminists want to take over the world.
I have to say, I'm a little disappointed. I at least expected you to be able to quote some mrm sites or something like that.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Blowing things out of proportion again eh.

No you see that's called a fact. I understand you seem to not be very familiar with them.

 

[JackFlash]

What a shame that just days after one of the great success stories in Australian sporting history it has all been ruined by the massive and somewhat hysterical over reaction by CA and Channel Ten. Gayle was promoted as the cricketing playboy before the BBL began and when it all goes awry they run fast and run far...He gets fined 10k for flirting! Sure he shouldn't have done it, but his persona is a media creation, his whole image was centred around him being the carefree, Caribbean swashbuckling batsman. He was hired to put bums on seats and it worked. Now these weazels take a dump on him and wish to ban him from actually playing! INSANE! On the Gayle scale Dustin Martin should be banned for life! Who are they punishing here? Gayle is the 3rd richest cricketer in the world, it won't bother him not playing in "prudish Australia" he makes $7.5million a year! It's the fans who are getting punished and we need these internationals out here to maintain the momentum the series has created. Look at today's farcical Test.The new puritanism is alive, well and powerful. I wonder if KP made a personal protest last night when he refused to talk to the commentators when going out to bat? The over reaction by Ten and CA defies all logic and i feel for Mel McLaughlin who now will probably cop unnecessary ridicule from fans due to the poor handling of the situation by her superiors.

 

[Snell1234]

Yes, and that's a great example of something called false equivalence- which is to say that it's not relevant to this debate at all.

See, that has nothing to do with the issue at hand, and doesn't prove that feminists want to take over the world.
I have to say, I'm a little disappointed. I at least expected you to be able to quote some mrm sites or something like that.

You can't debate the issue sensibly other than dismissing it. No point continuing to respond to me as you obviously aren't quite up for the debate. Hope the view is good there on top of that high horse.

 

[Father Jack]

Gayle can be a playboy all he wants and Ten can play him up as one all they want, but that doesn't mean there aren't boundaries