List Mgmt. Operation: Get Jaeger

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Steele7

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If Jaeger is healthy I would do
Swallow + 1st pick for O'Meara
Swallow would be a good fit for. GC. Could be their captain. Taking the pressure off Ablett and for Ablett to play more of a outside role. Is a tackling machine and some leadership at their club. Also would be less chase his brother would leave.
 
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no thanks, too big a risk, go to the draft. No trades, just draft a group of younger players to develop once our next bunch of older champs are retired (Thompson, Wells, Swallow, Gibson, Waite)
 
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Is it? If we were to get him, he'd have to pass a medical, which would suggest they expect him to recover full fitness.
The problem with all of this is that this is a terribly serious injury he's suffered and there are perilous few live examples of players returning from ruptured patellas. Chris Knights is the most famous one and he was never the same player again post injury and ended up having to retire. The ace pitcher for the Los Angeles Angels Garrett Richards had the same injury and his gait was noticeably different 12-18 months later and has not come back remotely the same pitcher.

O'Meara has not been able to get on the park for 2 years other than a brief cameo after which he went in for even more surgery.

Patella ruptures are far more serious than ACLs from what I can gather. Let's also not pretend that Steve Saunders is a specialist in every sphere of medicine and can make diagnoses like these. Also his stocks have taken a fair hit in 2016 in any case.
 

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Why is it that we decide to forcibly retire 4 players and then less than 24 hours later O'meara announces he wants out? Nahas, Ray, Tippett, Black, Dal Santo, Harvey, Firrito and Petrie thats 8 list spots available. I have a feeling we'll finally land a decent target this trade period; whether it be O'meara or not. Club would've probably signed Harvey to another contract if we hadn't needed the money for a specific signing.
Yes there is method to the perceived madness.
Agree totally

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We are better off trading up in the draft. I like Jaeger but the risk is too high that he never gets on the park for that asking price and could put us back a few years in development (e.g Jonathan Hay).

I'd rather see us get our pick 11 traded up to the top 5 with a player swap and picks. We also might be keeping in mind that next year we have potential father/son and academy pick Thomas in mind as options. We should be looking at getting future picks for next year's draft too.
Imagine a fully fit Jaeger and Tarryn in the same side.. woweee!!
 
The problem with all of this is that this is a terribly serious injury he's suffered and there are perilous few live examples of players returning from ruptured patellas. Chris Knights is the most famous one and he was never the same player again post injury and ended up having to retire. The ace pitcher for the Los Angeles Angels Garrett Richards had the same injury and his gait was noticeably different 12-18 months later and has not come back remotely the same pitcher.

O'Meara has not been able to get on the park for 2 years other than a brief cameo after which he went in for even more surgery.

Patella ruptures are far more serious than ACLs from what I can gather. Let's also not pretend that Steve Saunders is a specialist in every sphere of medicine and can make diagnoses like these. Also his stocks have taken a fair hit in 2016 in any case.

Fair enough. I hadn't realised it was more serious than an ACL (I accepted it as "complications").

And I wasn't presenting Saunders as omnipotent, but rather suggesting that a medical team should be able to make an appropriate assessment.
 
We are better off trading up in the draft. I like Jaeger but the risk is too high that he never gets on the park for that asking price and could put us back a few years in development (e.g Jonathan Hay).

I'd rather see us get our pick 11 traded up to the top 5 with a player swap and picks. We also might be keeping in mind that next year we have potential father/son and academy pick Thomas in mind as options. We should be looking at getting future picks for next year's draft too.

If anyone else heard Brad Scott the night he was on SEN's "In the Coaches' Box" on a recent Friday night, where he discussed the subject of a proper mini rebuild and what it would entail at length, they'd agree the above direction is the one we'll most likely be aiming towards. He said that night that the only way to reboot your list was with multiple 1st and 2nd round draft selections. He also said the list management team were well down the track in planning for such a time, which shouldn't make this week's events that big a surprise for anyone who was listening.

I suspect we'd earmarked this year and next, as the first of the less compromised drafts, in which to do said reboot.
 
I reckon it's something brewing deep dark and quiet.

Just like a thousand odd AFL journos didn't pick up on or speculate on our recent retirements.

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I agree something is brewing but not necessarily with JOM. More importantly, I'd like to know whether we freed up the cash because we already are deep in discussions with one or two targets or we freed up the cash because we are seeing we've run the race with the current group and are just about to start discussions with a group of player managers in hope of maybe luring someone.

Huge difference between the two. I hope for the former but I'm afraid it's the latter.
 

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I agree something is brewing but not necessarily with JOM. More importantly, I'd like to know whether we freed up the cash because we already are deep in discussions with one or two targets or we freed up the cash because we are seeing we've run the race with the current group and are just about to start discussions with a group of player managers in hope of maybe luring someone.

Huge difference between the two. I hope for the former but I'm afraid it's the latter.
Yea you'd think clubs start planning very early even before we get bored as fans and media and start speculating on trades. The Boomer delisting smells of there is a bigger picture.

Im not a fan of the big stakes required for JOM. Id prefer a fyfe or possibly 2 semi guns.
David Swallow and someone else?

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If anyone else heard Brad Scott the night he was on SEN's "In the Coaches' Box" on a recent Friday night, where he discussed the subject of a proper mini rebuild and what it would entail at length, they'd agree the above direction is the one we'll most likely be aiming towards. He said that night that the only way to reboot your list was with multiple 1st and 2nd round draft selections. He also said the list management team were well down the track in planning for such a time, which shouldn't make this week's events that big a surprise for anyone who was listening.

I suspect we'd earmarked this year and next, as the first of the less compromised drafts, in which to do said reboot.

which makes it even more interesting, so does the club trade some players to be able to get another first rounder and second?
 

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The problem with all of this is that this is a terribly serious injury he's suffered and there are perilous few live examples of players returning from ruptured patellas. Chris Knights is the most famous one and he was never the same player again post injury and ended up having to retire. The ace pitcher for the Los Angeles Angels Garrett Richards had the same injury and his gait was noticeably different 12-18 months later and has not come back remotely the same pitcher.

O'Meara has not been able to get on the park for 2 years other than a brief cameo after which he went in for even more surgery.

Patella ruptures are far more serious than ACLs from what I can gather. Let's also not pretend that Steve Saunders is a specialist in every sphere of medicine and can make diagnoses like these. Also his stocks have taken a fair hit in 2016 in any case.
I was retired at 22 after 9 operations to get my patella right. Can barely walk pain free, have no cartlidge left and am riddled with arthritis at 36. Tread carefully North.
 

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We have recruited two injury prone players in Waite and Higgo and both have spent decent periods on the sideline.

Not sure if this work's against or in favor of us actually going after him.

In Higgins' case I'm not sure any medical will pick up an opponent falling across a player's knee.
 
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I was retired at 22 after 9 operations to get my patella right. Can barely walk pain free, have no cartlidge left and am riddled with arthritis at 36. Tread carefully North.
Dirty you know of many other sportsmen who have made it back to top level sport following a patella tendon rupture (assuming this is the injury you had)?

Victor Cruz (WR for the New York Giants) was one who O'Meara referenced early on after his injury - but he hasn't played for 2 years now either!!
 
I hate mindless trade speculation based on misguided extrapolations from ill-informed posters. BUT, here goes anyway:

Do you think Maj to GWS or Suns could get a good high pick or player in return?

Thinking is, he'd be a prominent, marketable and capable player that would create much needed positive exposure for those teams while still being a good ruck/ not as good forward option. He'd be huge for GWS in western Sydney for sure.

Fact is, he'll always be back up ruck to G at Nth and he's not a natural forward.

This might put us back a forward option. But I reckon we could get a higher value pick or trade relative to what he's worth to us as a player. Isn't that what trading is all about?

Thoughts?
 
In Higgins' case I'm not sure any medical will pick up an opponent falling across a player's knee.
Of course not, but is just that some guys have bad luck. You know, they're prone to injury.

Jaeger is going to be one of those could have been anything stories. He'll be playing xbox with JWS soon enough.
 
Of course not, but is just that some guys have bad luck. You know, they're prone to injury.

Jaeger is going to be one of those could have been anything stories. He'll be playing xbox with JWS soon enough.

And if we do get him, you can hate him from the start, call him "the Shag", continually call for his de-listing, ignore his good games and focus on isolated mistakes, blame the coach for every failure, related or unrelated, and continually justify pathetic umpiring performances with bogus excuses.

Good times ahead for mav. :thumbsu:
 
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