No Oppo Supporters OPPOSITION OBSERVATION XXV

[Marcel Proust]

I don't think they have learned any lessons from their fall from grace yet.

It's 24 years since a flag and 20 since a gf for them.

 

[roacheee]

I don't think they have learned any lessons from their fall from grace yet.

It's 24 years since a flag and 20 since a gf for them. They aren't carlton the powerhouse they are carlton that club that was good in the 90s.

In context that was us in about 2004 with Kane Johnson at the helm and the 1980 flag was ancient history even to richmond supporters.

They can bang on about sos and bla bla bla but time moves on and they are still s**t.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Can someone explain to me why the Pies midfield is ranked higher than ours?
Once again Sheds gets overlooked.
Even the Dogs above the Pies!

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The engine room is the heartbeat of any good team and there is no AFL midfield better than Greater Western Sydney’s.
How many teams could reach an AFL Grand Final without their inspiration captain and with a player as classy as Stephen Coniglio sidelined?
SCROLL DOWN FOR BRENDON GODDARD’S CLUB-BY-CLUB RANKING OF EVERY MIDFIELD
As lethal as West Coast will be with Tim Kelly and as dominant as Collingwood is around the ball, the Giants boast the best midfield mix in the AFL, according to Brendon Goddard.
Although the Dockers have Brownlow medallist Nat Fyfe headlining their on-ballers, Goddard has doubts about Fremantle’s midfield under new coach Justin Longmuir.
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1. GWS GIANTS

THE TOP-LINERS
Player, 2019 Games, 2019 SuperCoach average
Josh Kelly (18, 114), Lachie Whitfield (19, 107), Tim Taranto (26, 103), Stephen Coniglio (15, 101), Harry Perryman (19, 78), Matt De Boer (19, 72), Callan Ward (1, 4)
THE TOP-UPS
Jackson Hately (7, 62), Jye Caldwell (2, 50), Jack Buckley (0, 0), Xavier O’Halloran (0, 0), Nick Shipley (0, 0)
Goddard says: The Giants’ depth of A-Grade talent is simply outrageous and they were ranked No. 1 for clearances last season despite not having a dominant ruckman. The return of co-captain Ward from an ACL injury only further bolsters the midfield stocks, while Kelly could well take another step forward into the very top echelon of midfielders in the competition with a full pre-season under his belt.
2. WEST COAST

THE TOP-LINERS
Andrew Gaff (22, 107), Elliot Yeo (23, 106), Tim Kelly (25, 104), Luke Shuey (24, 101), Dom Sheed (24, 93), Jack Redden (23, 91), Mark Hutchings (18, 48)
THE TOP-UPS
Xavier O’Neill (0, 0), Hamish Brayshaw (0, 0), Brayden Ainsworth (0, 0)
Goddard says: The addition of Kelly from Geelong during the trade period gives the Eagles four genuine top-line stars. Kelly ranked as the 11th best clearance player in the competition last season, Gaff is arguably the best wingman in the game, Yeo is a legitimate run-with player and Shuey is the Eagles’ reigning best-and-fairest. Then there is Redden and Sheed, who are not a bad second-string at all. If everyone is fit and healthy, who starts in the centre bounce in Round 1?
3. COLLINGWOOD

THE TOP-LINERS
Adam Treloar (24, 111), Scott Pendlebury (24, 105), Steele Sidebottom (23, 96), Taylor Adams (12, 96), Tom Phillips (24, 83), Dayne Beams (9, 81), Chris Mayne (21, 75)
THE TOP-UPS
Rupert Wills (9, 71), Josh Daicos (5, 53), Brayden Sier (6, 50), Tyler Brown (0, 0), Tim Broomhead (0, 0)
Goddard says: An impressive array of A-Grade talent which will only be improved if Beams can get himself right and play a full season. The ever-consistent performers of Pendlebury, Treloar, Adams and Sidebottom are nicely complemented by the likes of Phillips on the outside, who is a top-five wingman in the competition. Having the best ruckman in the competition in Brodie Grundy giving the Magpies’ midfielders first use also helps.

4. RICHMOND

THE TOP-LINERS
Dion Prestia (25, 103), Dustin Martin (23, 102), Marlion Pickett (1, 97), Trent Cotchin (14, 77), Jack Graham (16, 73), Kamdyn McIntosh (16, 63)
THE TOP-UPS
Jack Ross (7, 63), Patrick Naish (2, 73), Oleg Markov (2, 49), Riley Collier-Dawkins (0, 0), Fraser Turner (0, 0)
Goddard says: The reigning premiership midfield and a group that is consistent, reliable and flexible. Reigning best-and-fairest Prestia is coming off a breakout year while Martin continued his dominance in the finals series. Pickett showed in the Grand Final what sort of player he could be in 2020 with a full pre-season under his belt, while the Tigers would dearly love captain Cotchin to have a better run at it after an injury-interrupted 2019 season.
5. BRISBANE LIONS

THE TOP-LINERS
Lachie Neale (24, 119), Dayne Zorko (24, 107), Jarryd Lyons (24, 101), Mitch Robinson (23, 94), Hugh McCluggage (23, 94), Cam Ellis-Yolmen (10, 93), Jarrod Berry (20, 86)
THE TOP-UPS
Rhys Mathieson (9, 60), Mitchell Hinge (2, 64), Jacob Allison (2, 46), Callum Ah Chee (1, 82), Tom Joyce (0, 0), Ely Smith (0, 0) , Toby Wooller (0, 0)
Goddard says: Hard to knock a midfield group that ranked second in the competition for clearances last season. The Lions have a good mix of inside ball winners through Neale, Lyons, Berry and now Adelaide recruit Ellis-Yolmen. Zorko has leg speed, Robinson is not slow on one win and McCluggage provides some serious class on the other wing. Might lack the out-and-out stars of some other teams but have certainly got the balance right.
6. GEELONG

THE TOP-LINERS
Patrick Dangerfield (24, 115), Mitch Duncan (23, 101), Joel Selwood (23, 89), Sam Menegola (12, 82), Brandan Parfitt (20, 79), Cameron Guthrie (20, 79), Jack Steven (7, 74), Jordan Clark (18, 61)
THE TOP-UPS
Charlie Constable (7, 81), Quinton Narkle (6, 80), James Parsons (4, 65), Lachie Fogarty (2, 50), Jacob Kennedy (0, 0), Sam Simpson (0, 0)

Goddard says: Would have been higher in the rankings had they not lost All-Australian Tim Kelly to West Coast during the trade period. The lack of a consistent dominant ruckman at the Cats also hurts the midfield group. While Selwood is ageing, Dangerfield and Duncan are still in their prime and they have a number of solid support acts in Menegola, Guthrie and Parfitt. There is a question mark over what St Kilda recruit Steven can produce, but at his best he could be something special for the Cats and add a great dynamic.
7. WESTERN BULLDOGS

THE TOP-LINERS
Jack Macrae (23, 122), Josh Dunkley (23, 116), Marcus Bontempelli (23, 113), Lachie Hunter (23, 95), Mitch Wallis (10, 84), Tom Liberatore (15, 82), Patrick Lipinski (14, 81), Bailey Smith (23, 76)
THE TOP-UPS
Will Hayes (9, 55), Roarke Smith (5, 53), Lin Jong (0, 0), Callum Porter (0, 0)
Goddard says: Based on Champion Data ranking points, Macrae, Dunkley and Bontempelli were three of the top eight midfielders in the AFL in 2019. The trio are all stars. However, it should be noted the Bulldogs still ranked 12th for total clearances, some of which could be put down to playing a developing young ruckman in Tim English. The return of Tom Liberatore from injury should help those numbers, while Bailey Smith is an exciting young talent.
8. MELBOURNE

THE TOP-LINERS
Clayton Oliver (22, 109), James Harmes (22, 94), Ed Langdon (22, 86), Angus Brayshaw (22, 84), Jack Viney (21, 81), Adam Tomlinson (25, 69)
THE TOP-UPS
Oskar Baker (9, 48), Kyle Dunkley (5, 48), Kade Kolodjashnij (2, 40), James Jordon (0, 0), Aaron Nietschke (0, 0)
Goddard says: Yes, the Demons had a season from hell in 2019. However, the midfield wasn’t to blame too much as Melbourne ranked eighth for clearances and fifth for inside-50s. A full pre-season for Viney will help and Brayshaw is more than capable of returning to his 2018 form which saw him finish third in the Brownlow Medal. Langdon from Fremantle and Tomlinson from Greater Western Sydney will slot in nicely on either wing and add some much-needed outside run after being picked up during the trade period. I would also like to see Christian Petracca run through the midfield a bit more to add to the rotation. The Demons need to challenge him to take his fitness to the next level so he can.
9. ESSENDON

THE TOP-LINERS
Zach Merrett (23, 105), Dylan Shiel (22, 98), Dyson Heppell (18, 95), Darcy Parish (21, 85), David Zaharakis (20, 79), Andrew McGrath (23, 75), Devon Smith (7, 69), Matt Guelfi (17, 56)
The Top-Ups
Tom Cutler (3, 78), Dylan Clarke (11, 65), Kobe Mutch (1, 0)
Goddard says: The Bombers are still lacking one inside ball winner – something that was not addressed during the trade period – but they have most other stations covered. Heppell is an ever-consistent performer and Merrett has serious all-round class. The return of 2018 best-and-fairest Devon Smith will certainly help, Parish’s development has been pleasing and McGrath and Zahararkis provide the run on the outside. Zaharakis just needs to continue to work on his stoppage craft.
10. HAWTHORN

THE TOP-LINERS
James Worpel (22, 97), Ricky Henderson (22, 95), Jaeger O’Meara (21, 91), Liam Shiels (19, 87), Isaac Smith (19, 83), Tom Scully (21, 66), Tom Mitchell (0, 0)
THE TOP-UPS
Daniel Howe (12, 74), James Cousins (12, 70), Harry Morrison (9, 53), Will Golds (0, 0), Harrison Jones (0, 0)
Goddard says: The Hawks onball brigade should be much-improved in 2020 with the return of Brownlow medallist Mitchell from a broken leg which saw him miss the entire season. Worpel’s development across the 2019 season was incredible, leading to a deserving best-and-fairest win. Tom Scully would be hoping to get a full pre-season in and build on his form of last season, while Ricky Henderson is coming off a career-best season at the ripe old age of 31. There is talent there, but I think the Hawks are just lacking one or two top-end inside players.
11. PORT ADELAIDE

THE TOP-LINERS
Travis Boak (21, 107), Tom Rockliff (18, 92), Ollie Wines (12, 88), Karl Amon (17, 77), Sam Powell-Pepper (19, 74), Xavier Duursma (20, 74)
THE TOP-UPS
Willem Drew (10, 73), Joe Atley (1, 74), Sam Mayes (0, 0), Jake Patmore (0, 0)
Goddard says: Could be considered a tad stiff to be ranked 11th, given the Power were third for total clearances and first for inside-50s last season. But they are lacking depth and top-end talent. Boak is coming off an outstanding year and I’m excited to see how Duursma continues to develop. Connor Rozee might also find himself playing more midfield time next year, as well as Dan Houston. A pre-season and injury-free run for Wines would be a major boost after a difficult 2019.
12. NORTH MELBOURNE

THE TOP-LINERS
Ben Cunnington (22, 102), Shaun Higgins (17, 94), Jack Ziebell (22, 91), Jared Polec (22, 87), Jed Anderson (17, 87), Trent Dumont (21, 84), Jy Simpkin (21, 70), Luke Davies-Uniacke (14, 63), Ben Jacobs (0, 0)
THE TOP-UPS
Aaron Hall (6, 76), Dom Tyson (3, 75), Kyron Hayden (1, 31)
Goddard says: The Kangaroos have a good core, with an ever-reliable top-three in Cunnington, Higgins and Ziebell. There is also plenty of upside with the improvement left in Anderson, Simpkin and Dumont and the potential return of one of the best taggers in the game in Jacobs, who has not played since Round 16, 2018. Based on the improvement in the second half of last season, North Melbourne could well exceed this ranking.
13. ST KILDA

THE TOP-LINERS
Seb Ross (22, 98), Dan Hannebery (5, 96), Jack Steele (20, 95), Jack Billings (22, 94), Luke Dunstan (18, 93), Zak Jones (17, 86), Bradley Hill (22, 84), Jade Gresham (19, 84)
THE TOP-UPS
Ed Phillips (4, 63), Doulton Langlands (3, 53), Jack Bytel (0, 0)
Goddard says: The Saints have a capable midfield, but it’s one that simply doesn’t have the A-Grade talent of other sides. In saying that, I wouldn’t be surprised if Billings or Gresham moved themselves up into that bracket next year. St Kilda will be hoping for much more out Hannebery after a disappointing, injury-interrupted year. Steele and Ross are ever consistent with their form and I like the recruitment of Hill from Fremantle, who adds some much-needed outside speed.
14. CARLTON

THE TOP-LINERS
Patrick Cripps (20, 117), Ed Curnow (22, 91), Marc Murphy (19, 91), Sam Walsh (22, 87), Jack Newnes (20, 71), Zac Fisher (21, 66), Will Setterfield (18, 61), Paddy Dow (19, 54), Lachie O’Brien (17, 45)
Goddard says: Cripps is the cream and a star of the competition. Walsh is a soon-to-be A-Grader on the back of winning the Rising Star award last season. But it drops away a bit after that. Murphy and Curnow are coming off great seasons and have been super reliable for many years but enter next season the other side of 30. Can they produce the same sort of campaigns again next year? Newnes comes in from St Kilda and should be a regular but is only rated average in every key statistical area. It is a waiting game over the development of Setterfield and Dow. It’s their time to step up and shine. The Blues have made no secret of the fact they think they lack another A-Grade midfielder over the past two years.
15. ADELAIDE

THE TOP-LINERS
Matt Crouch (19, 104), Rory Sloane (22, 103), Brad Crouch (22, 98), Rory Atkins (20, 75), Paul Seedsman (13, 72), Bryce Gibbs (12, 69), David Mackay (18, 67)
THE TOP-UPS
Patrick Wilson (1, 50), Ned McHenry (0, 0)
Goddard says: There is a real sameness about the Crows’ midfield. It lacks flexibility, with most of the players in there all like-for-like. Sloane is a competitor but doesn’t possess dynamic speed. Gibbs was dropped four times last season and is much the same player as Matt Crouch. There is simply not the depth of talent and not the leg-speed of other teams. Adelaide has to find someone to step up. Defenders Wayne Milera and Brodie Smith had rotations in the midfield at stages last season to try and find speed and penetration of ball use. Could one of them make a permanent midfield move?
16. SYDNEY

THE TOP-LINERS
Josh Kennedy (19, 107), Luke Parker (22, 105), Isaac Heeney (22, 94), George Hewett (22, 88), Oliver Florent (21, 69), Ryan Clarke (14, 57)
THE TOP-UPS
Lewis Taylor (5, 71), Justin McInerney (1, 21), Zac Foot (0, 0)
Goddard says: Kieran Jack is gone. Kennedy is ageing and will turn 32 in June. Who is going to step up and replace them? Is Heeney going to be the inside all-round elite midfielder we all hoped he would be? Parker will continue doing what he’s done for six or seven years. The Swans’ outside class is pretty good in young Florent and I expect Callum Mills and Will Hayward to join him and play more midfield minutes next season. There are clearly spots up for grabs.
17. FREMANTLE

THE TOP-LINERS
Nat Fyfe (20, 120), Michael Walters (22, 101), David Mundy (22, 88), Darcy Tucker (22, 73), Blake Acres (19, 71), Andrew Brayshaw (22, 71), Reece Conca (22, 68)
THE TOP-UPS
Stefan Giro (0, 0), Luke Valente (0, 0)
Goddard says: Reigning Brownlow medallist Fyfe is the standout along with Walters who is also a star of the competition. But after that the Dockers are still relying on Mundy too much and it drops right away after that. Brayshaw was taken at pick 2 in the 2017 draft and needs to step up and have a breakout year in 2020.
18. GOLD COAST

THE TOP-LINERS
David Swallow (22, 88), Brayden Fiorini (21, 88), Hugh Greenwood (14, 86), Touk Miller (18, 85), Anthony Miles (17, 84), Brandon Ellis (23, 82), Darcy MacPherson (22, 82), Jack Bowes (15, 76)
THE TOP-UPS
Wil Powell (13, 55), Sam Fletcher (0, 0), Mitch Riordan (0, 0)
Goddard says: Swallow remains the standout and there a couple of ever-reliable competitors in Miles and Miller. The additions of Ellis (Richmond) and Greenwood (Adelaide) will certainly make the Suns’ midfield better year-on-year, while the development of Bowes is also exciting. But there is still just a clear void of A-Grade talent. Could highly-rated youngster Izak Rankine return from injury and be added to the midfield mix in 2020 to help fill that void?

 

[Tiger Toffee]

Can someone explain to me why the Pies midfield is ranked higher than ours?
Once again Sheds gets overlooked.
Even the Dogs above the Pies!

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Where is your club on the draft pick ladder?

The engine room is the heartbeat of any good team and there is no AFL midfield better than Greater Western Sydney’s.
How many teams could reach an AFL Grand Final without their inspiration captain and with a player as classy as Stephen Coniglio sidelined?
SCROLL DOWN FOR BRENDON GODDARD’S CLUB-BY-CLUB RANKING OF EVERY MIDFIELD
As lethal as West Coast will be with Tim Kelly and as dominant as Collingwood is around the ball, the Giants boast the best midfield mix in the AFL, according to Brendon Goddard.
Although the Dockers have Brownlow medallist Nat Fyfe headlining their on-ballers, Goddard has doubts about Fremantle’s midfield under new coach Justin Longmuir.
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1. GWS GIANTS

THE TOP-LINERS
Player, 2019 Games, 2019 SuperCoach average
Josh Kelly (18, 114), Lachie Whitfield (19, 107), Tim Taranto (26, 103), Stephen Coniglio (15, 101), Harry Perryman (19, 78), Matt De Boer (19, 72), Callan Ward (1, 4)
THE TOP-UPS
Jackson Hately (7, 62), Jye Caldwell (2, 50), Jack Buckley (0, 0), Xavier O’Halloran (0, 0), Nick Shipley (0, 0)
Goddard says: The Giants’ depth of A-Grade talent is simply outrageous and they were ranked No. 1 for clearances last season despite not having a dominant ruckman. The return of co-captain Ward from an ACL injury only further bolsters the midfield stocks, while Kelly could well take another step forward into the very top echelon of midfielders in the competition with a full pre-season under his belt.
2. WEST COAST

THE TOP-LINERS
Andrew Gaff (22, 107), Elliot Yeo (23, 106), Tim Kelly (25, 104), Luke Shuey (24, 101), Dom Sheed (24, 93), Jack Redden (23, 91), Mark Hutchings (18, 48)
THE TOP-UPS
Xavier O’Neill (0, 0), Hamish Brayshaw (0, 0), Brayden Ainsworth (0, 0)
Goddard says: The addition of Kelly from Geelong during the trade period gives the Eagles four genuine top-line stars. Kelly ranked as the 11th best clearance player in the competition last season, Gaff is arguably the best wingman in the game, Yeo is a legitimate run-with player and Shuey is the Eagles’ reigning best-and-fairest. Then there is Redden and Sheed, who are not a bad second-string at all. If everyone is fit and healthy, who starts in the centre bounce in Round 1?
3. COLLINGWOOD

THE TOP-LINERS
Adam Treloar (24, 111), Scott Pendlebury (24, 105), Steele Sidebottom (23, 96), Taylor Adams (12, 96), Tom Phillips (24, 83), Dayne Beams (9, 81), Chris Mayne (21, 75)
THE TOP-UPS
Rupert Wills (9, 71), Josh Daicos (5, 53), Brayden Sier (6, 50), Tyler Brown (0, 0), Tim Broomhead (0, 0)
Goddard says: An impressive array of A-Grade talent which will only be improved if Beams can get himself right and play a full season. The ever-consistent performers of Pendlebury, Treloar, Adams and Sidebottom are nicely complemented by the likes of Phillips on the outside, who is a top-five wingman in the competition. Having the best ruckman in the competition in Brodie Grundy giving the Magpies’ midfielders first use also helps.

4. RICHMOND

THE TOP-LINERS
Dion Prestia (25, 103), Dustin Martin (23, 102), Marlion Pickett (1, 97), Trent Cotchin (14, 77), Jack Graham (16, 73), Kamdyn McIntosh (16, 63)
THE TOP-UPS
Jack Ross (7, 63), Patrick Naish (2, 73), Oleg Markov (2, 49), Riley Collier-Dawkins (0, 0), Fraser Turner (0, 0)
Goddard says: The reigning premiership midfield and a group that is consistent, reliable and flexible. Reigning best-and-fairest Prestia is coming off a breakout year while Martin continued his dominance in the finals series. Pickett showed in the Grand Final what sort of player he could be in 2020 with a full pre-season under his belt, while the Tigers would dearly love captain Cotchin to have a better run at it after an injury-interrupted 2019 season.
5. BRISBANE LIONS

THE TOP-LINERS
Lachie Neale (24, 119), Dayne Zorko (24, 107), Jarryd Lyons (24, 101), Mitch Robinson (23, 94), Hugh McCluggage (23, 94), Cam Ellis-Yolmen (10, 93), Jarrod Berry (20, 86)
THE TOP-UPS
Rhys Mathieson (9, 60), Mitchell Hinge (2, 64), Jacob Allison (2, 46), Callum Ah Chee (1, 82), Tom Joyce (0, 0), Ely Smith (0, 0) , Toby Wooller (0, 0)
Goddard says: Hard to knock a midfield group that ranked second in the competition for clearances last season. The Lions have a good mix of inside ball winners through Neale, Lyons, Berry and now Adelaide recruit Ellis-Yolmen. Zorko has leg speed, Robinson is not slow on one win and McCluggage provides some serious class on the other wing. Might lack the out-and-out stars of some other teams but have certainly got the balance right.
6. GEELONG

THE TOP-LINERS
Patrick Dangerfield (24, 115), Mitch Duncan (23, 101), Joel Selwood (23, 89), Sam Menegola (12, 82), Brandan Parfitt (20, 79), Cameron Guthrie (20, 79), Jack Steven (7, 74), Jordan Clark (18, 61)
THE TOP-UPS
Charlie Constable (7, 81), Quinton Narkle (6, 80), James Parsons (4, 65), Lachie Fogarty (2, 50), Jacob Kennedy (0, 0), Sam Simpson (0, 0)

Goddard says: Would have been higher in the rankings had they not lost All-Australian Tim Kelly to West Coast during the trade period. The lack of a consistent dominant ruckman at the Cats also hurts the midfield group. While Selwood is ageing, Dangerfield and Duncan are still in their prime and they have a number of solid support acts in Menegola, Guthrie and Parfitt. There is a question mark over what St Kilda recruit Steven can produce, but at his best he could be something special for the Cats and add a great dynamic.
7. WESTERN BULLDOGS

THE TOP-LINERS
Jack Macrae (23, 122), Josh Dunkley (23, 116), Marcus Bontempelli (23, 113), Lachie Hunter (23, 95), Mitch Wallis (10, 84), Tom Liberatore (15, 82), Patrick Lipinski (14, 81), Bailey Smith (23, 76)
THE TOP-UPS
Will Hayes (9, 55), Roarke Smith (5, 53), Lin Jong (0, 0), Callum Porter (0, 0)
Goddard says: Based on Champion Data ranking points, Macrae, Dunkley and Bontempelli were three of the top eight midfielders in the AFL in 2019. The trio are all stars. However, it should be noted the Bulldogs still ranked 12th for total clearances, some of which could be put down to playing a developing young ruckman in Tim English. The return of Tom Liberatore from injury should help those numbers, while Bailey Smith is an exciting young talent.
8. MELBOURNE

THE TOP-LINERS
Clayton Oliver (22, 109), James Harmes (22, 94), Ed Langdon (22, 86), Angus Brayshaw (22, 84), Jack Viney (21, 81), Adam Tomlinson (25, 69)
THE TOP-UPS
Oskar Baker (9, 48), Kyle Dunkley (5, 48), Kade Kolodjashnij (2, 40), James Jordon (0, 0), Aaron Nietschke (0, 0)
Goddard says: Yes, the Demons had a season from hell in 2019. However, the midfield wasn’t to blame too much as Melbourne ranked eighth for clearances and fifth for inside-50s. A full pre-season for Viney will help and Brayshaw is more than capable of returning to his 2018 form which saw him finish third in the Brownlow Medal. Langdon from Fremantle and Tomlinson from Greater Western Sydney will slot in nicely on either wing and add some much-needed outside run after being picked up during the trade period. I would also like to see Christian Petracca run through the midfield a bit more to add to the rotation. The Demons need to challenge him to take his fitness to the next level so he can.
9. ESSENDON

THE TOP-LINERS
Zach Merrett (23, 105), Dylan Shiel (22, 98), Dyson Heppell (18, 95), Darcy Parish (21, 85), David Zaharakis (20, 79), Andrew McGrath (23, 75), Devon Smith (7, 69), Matt Guelfi (17, 56)
The Top-Ups
Tom Cutler (3, 78), Dylan Clarke (11, 65), Kobe Mutch (1, 0)
Goddard says: The Bombers are still lacking one inside ball winner – something that was not addressed during the trade period – but they have most other stations covered. Heppell is an ever-consistent performer and Merrett has serious all-round class. The return of 2018 best-and-fairest Devon Smith will certainly help, Parish’s development has been pleasing and McGrath and Zahararkis provide the run on the outside. Zaharakis just needs to continue to work on his stoppage craft.
10. HAWTHORN

THE TOP-LINERS
James Worpel (22, 97), Ricky Henderson (22, 95), Jaeger O’Meara (21, 91), Liam Shiels (19, 87), Isaac Smith (19, 83), Tom Scully (21, 66), Tom Mitchell (0, 0)
THE TOP-UPS
Daniel Howe (12, 74), James Cousins (12, 70), Harry Morrison (9, 53), Will Golds (0, 0), Harrison Jones (0, 0)
Goddard says: The Hawks onball brigade should be much-improved in 2020 with the return of Brownlow medallist Mitchell from a broken leg which saw him miss the entire season. Worpel’s development across the 2019 season was incredible, leading to a deserving best-and-fairest win. Tom Scully would be hoping to get a full pre-season in and build on his form of last season, while Ricky Henderson is coming off a career-best season at the ripe old age of 31. There is talent there, but I think the Hawks are just lacking one or two top-end inside players.
11. PORT ADELAIDE

THE TOP-LINERS
Travis Boak (21, 107), Tom Rockliff (18, 92), Ollie Wines (12, 88), Karl Amon (17, 77), Sam Powell-Pepper (19, 74), Xavier Duursma (20, 74)
THE TOP-UPS
Willem Drew (10, 73), Joe Atley (1, 74), Sam Mayes (0, 0), Jake Patmore (0, 0)
Goddard says: Could be considered a tad stiff to be ranked 11th, given the Power were third for total clearances and first for inside-50s last season. But they are lacking depth and top-end talent. Boak is coming off an outstanding year and I’m excited to see how Duursma continues to develop. Connor Rozee might also find himself playing more midfield time next year, as well as Dan Houston. A pre-season and injury-free run for Wines would be a major boost after a difficult 2019.
12. NORTH MELBOURNE

THE TOP-LINERS
Ben Cunnington (22, 102), Shaun Higgins (17, 94), Jack Ziebell (22, 91), Jared Polec (22, 87), Jed Anderson (17, 87), Trent Dumont (21, 84), Jy Simpkin (21, 70), Luke Davies-Uniacke (14, 63), Ben Jacobs (0, 0)
THE TOP-UPS
Aaron Hall (6, 76), Dom Tyson (3, 75), Kyron Hayden (1, 31)
Goddard says: The Kangaroos have a good core, with an ever-reliable top-three in Cunnington, Higgins and Ziebell. There is also plenty of upside with the improvement left in Anderson, Simpkin and Dumont and the potential return of one of the best taggers in the game in Jacobs, who has not played since Round 16, 2018. Based on the improvement in the second half of last season, North Melbourne could well exceed this ranking.
13. ST KILDA

THE TOP-LINERS
Seb Ross (22, 98), Dan Hannebery (5, 96), Jack Steele (20, 95), Jack Billings (22, 94), Luke Dunstan (18, 93), Zak Jones (17, 86), Bradley Hill (22, 84), Jade Gresham (19, 84)
THE TOP-UPS
Ed Phillips (4, 63), Doulton Langlands (3, 53), Jack Bytel (0, 0)
Goddard says: The Saints have a capable midfield, but it’s one that simply doesn’t have the A-Grade talent of other sides. In saying that, I wouldn’t be surprised if Billings or Gresham moved themselves up into that bracket next year. St Kilda will be hoping for much more out Hannebery after a disappointing, injury-interrupted year. Steele and Ross are ever consistent with their form and I like the recruitment of Hill from Fremantle, who adds some much-needed outside speed.
14. CARLTON

THE TOP-LINERS
Patrick Cripps (20, 117), Ed Curnow (22, 91), Marc Murphy (19, 91), Sam Walsh (22, 87), Jack Newnes (20, 71), Zac Fisher (21, 66), Will Setterfield (18, 61), Paddy Dow (19, 54), Lachie O’Brien (17, 45)
Goddard says: Cripps is the cream and a star of the competition. Walsh is a soon-to-be A-Grader on the back of winning the Rising Star award last season. But it drops away a bit after that. Murphy and Curnow are coming off great seasons and have been super reliable for many years but enter next season the other side of 30. Can they produce the same sort of campaigns again next year? Newnes comes in from St Kilda and should be a regular but is only rated average in every key statistical area. It is a waiting game over the development of Setterfield and Dow. It’s their time to step up and shine. The Blues have made no secret of the fact they think they lack another A-Grade midfielder over the past two years.
15. ADELAIDE

THE TOP-LINERS
Matt Crouch (19, 104), Rory Sloane (22, 103), Brad Crouch (22, 98), Rory Atkins (20, 75), Paul Seedsman (13, 72), Bryce Gibbs (12, 69), David Mackay (18, 67)
THE TOP-UPS
Patrick Wilson (1, 50), Ned McHenry (0, 0)
Goddard says: There is a real sameness about the Crows’ midfield. It lacks flexibility, with most of the players in there all like-for-like. Sloane is a competitor but doesn’t possess dynamic speed. Gibbs was dropped four times last season and is much the same player as Matt Crouch. There is simply not the depth of talent and not the leg-speed of other teams. Adelaide has to find someone to step up. Defenders Wayne Milera and Brodie Smith had rotations in the midfield at stages last season to try and find speed and penetration of ball use. Could one of them make a permanent midfield move?
16. SYDNEY

THE TOP-LINERS
Josh Kennedy (19, 107), Luke Parker (22, 105), Isaac Heeney (22, 94), George Hewett (22, 88), Oliver Florent (21, 69), Ryan Clarke (14, 57)
THE TOP-UPS
Lewis Taylor (5, 71), Justin McInerney (1, 21), Zac Foot (0, 0)
Goddard says: Kieran Jack is gone. Kennedy is ageing and will turn 32 in June. Who is going to step up and replace them? Is Heeney going to be the inside all-round elite midfielder we all hoped he would be? Parker will continue doing what he’s done for six or seven years. The Swans’ outside class is pretty good in young Florent and I expect Callum Mills and Will Hayward to join him and play more midfield minutes next season. There are clearly spots up for grabs.
17. FREMANTLE

THE TOP-LINERS
Nat Fyfe (20, 120), Michael Walters (22, 101), David Mundy (22, 88), Darcy Tucker (22, 73), Blake Acres (19, 71), Andrew Brayshaw (22, 71), Reece Conca (22, 68)
THE TOP-UPS
Stefan Giro (0, 0), Luke Valente (0, 0)
Goddard says: Reigning Brownlow medallist Fyfe is the standout along with Walters who is also a star of the competition. But after that the Dockers are still relying on Mundy too much and it drops right away after that. Brayshaw was taken at pick 2 in the 2017 draft and needs to step up and have a breakout year in 2020.
18. GOLD COAST

THE TOP-LINERS
David Swallow (22, 88), Brayden Fiorini (21, 88), Hugh Greenwood (14, 86), Touk Miller (18, 85), Anthony Miles (17, 84), Brandon Ellis (23, 82), Darcy MacPherson (22, 82), Jack Bowes (15, 76)
THE TOP-UPS
Wil Powell (13, 55), Sam Fletcher (0, 0), Mitch Riordan (0, 0)
Goddard says: Swallow remains the standout and there a couple of ever-reliable competitors in Miles and Miller. The additions of Ellis (Richmond) and Greenwood (Adelaide) will certainly make the Suns’ midfield better year-on-year, while the development of Bowes is also exciting. But there is still just a clear void of A-Grade talent. Could highly-rated youngster Izak Rankine return from injury and be added to the midfield mix in 2020 to help fill that void?

Floggard rated each team, enough said really. The fact he put Kmac into our top liners says it all.

 

[Equus]

Can someone explain to me why the Pies midfield is ranked higher than ours?
Once again Sheds gets overlooked.
Even the Dogs above the Pies!

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1. GWS GIANTS

THE TOP-LINERS
Player, 2019 Games, 2019 SuperCoach average
Josh Kelly (18, 114), Lachie Whitfield (19, 107), Tim Taranto (26, 103), Stephen Coniglio (15, 101), Harry Perryman (19, 78), Matt De Boer (19, 72), Callan Ward (1, 4)
THE TOP-UPS
Jackson Hately (7, 62), Jye Caldwell (2, 50), Jack Buckley (0, 0), Xavier O’Halloran (0, 0), Nick Shipley (0, 0)
Goddard says: The Giants’ depth of A-Grade talent is simply outrageous and they were ranked No. 1 for clearances last season despite not having a dominant ruckman. The return of co-captain Ward from an ACL injury only further bolsters the midfield stocks, while Kelly could well take another step forward into the very top echelon of midfielders in the competition with a full pre-season under his belt.
2. WEST COAST

THE TOP-LINERS
Andrew Gaff (22, 107), Elliot Yeo (23, 106), Tim Kelly (25, 104), Luke Shuey (24, 101), Dom Sheed (24, 93), Jack Redden (23, 91), Mark Hutchings (18, 48)
THE TOP-UPS
Xavier O’Neill (0, 0), Hamish Brayshaw (0, 0), Brayden Ainsworth (0, 0)
Goddard says: The addition of Kelly from Geelong during the trade period gives the Eagles four genuine top-line stars. Kelly ranked as the 11th best clearance player in the competition last season, Gaff is arguably the best wingman in the game, Yeo is a legitimate run-with player and Shuey is the Eagles’ reigning best-and-fairest. Then there is Redden and Sheed, who are not a bad second-string at all. If everyone is fit and healthy, who starts in the centre bounce in Round 1?
3. COLLINGWOOD

THE TOP-LINERS
Adam Treloar (24, 111), Scott Pendlebury (24, 105), Steele Sidebottom (23, 96), Taylor Adams (12, 96), Tom Phillips (24, 83), Dayne Beams (9, 81), Chris Mayne (21, 75)
THE TOP-UPS
Rupert Wills (9, 71), Josh Daicos (5, 53), Brayden Sier (6, 50), Tyler Brown (0, 0), Tim Broomhead (0, 0)
Goddard says: An impressive array of A-Grade talent which will only be improved if Beams can get himself right and play a full season. The ever-consistent performers of Pendlebury, Treloar, Adams and Sidebottom are nicely complemented by the likes of Phillips on the outside, who is a top-five wingman in the competition. Having the best ruckman in the competition in Brodie Grundy giving the Magpies’ midfielders first use also helps.

4. RICHMOND

THE TOP-LINERS
Dion Prestia (25, 103), Dustin Martin (23, 102), Marlion Pickett (1, 97), Trent Cotchin (14, 77), Jack Graham (16, 73), Kamdyn McIntosh (16, 63)
THE TOP-UPS
Jack Ross (7, 63), Patrick Naish (2, 73), Oleg Markov (2, 49), Riley Collier-Dawkins (0, 0), Fraser Turner (0, 0)
Goddard says: The reigning premiership midfield and a group that is consistent, reliable and flexible. Reigning best-and-fairest Prestia is coming off a breakout year while Martin continued his dominance in the finals series. Pickett showed in the Grand Final what sort of player he could be in 2020 with a full pre-season under his belt, while the Tigers would dearly love captain Cotchin to have a better run at it after an injury-interrupted 2019 season.
5. BRISBANE LIONS

THE TOP-LINERS
Lachie Neale (24, 119), Dayne Zorko (24, 107), Jarryd Lyons (24, 101), Mitch Robinson (23, 94), Hugh McCluggage (23, 94), Cam Ellis-Yolmen (10, 93), Jarrod Berry (20, 86)
THE TOP-UPS
Rhys Mathieson (9, 60), Mitchell Hinge (2, 64), Jacob Allison (2, 46), Callum Ah Chee (1, 82), Tom Joyce (0, 0), Ely Smith (0, 0) , Toby Wooller (0, 0)
Goddard says: Hard to knock a midfield group that ranked second in the competition for clearances last season. The Lions have a good mix of inside ball winners through Neale, Lyons, Berry and now Adelaide recruit Ellis-Yolmen. Zorko has leg speed, Robinson is not slow on one win and McCluggage provides some serious class on the other wing. Might lack the out-and-out stars of some other teams but have certainly got the balance right.
6. GEELONG

THE TOP-LINERS
Patrick Dangerfield (24, 115), Mitch Duncan (23, 101), Joel Selwood (23, 89), Sam Menegola (12, 82), Brandan Parfitt (20, 79), Cameron Guthrie (20, 79), Jack Steven (7, 74), Jordan Clark (18, 61)
THE TOP-UPS
Charlie Constable (7, 81), Quinton Narkle (6, 80), James Parsons (4, 65), Lachie Fogarty (2, 50), Jacob Kennedy (0, 0), Sam Simpson (0, 0)

Goddard says: Would have been higher in the rankings had they not lost All-Australian Tim Kelly to West Coast during the trade period. The lack of a consistent dominant ruckman at the Cats also hurts the midfield group. While Selwood is ageing, Dangerfield and Duncan are still in their prime and they have a number of solid support acts in Menegola, Guthrie and Parfitt. There is a question mark over what St Kilda recruit Steven can produce, but at his best he could be something special for the Cats and add a great dynamic.
7. WESTERN BULLDOGS

THE TOP-LINERS
Jack Macrae (23, 122), Josh Dunkley (23, 116), Marcus Bontempelli (23, 113), Lachie Hunter (23, 95), Mitch Wallis (10, 84), Tom Liberatore (15, 82), Patrick Lipinski (14, 81), Bailey Smith (23, 76)
THE TOP-UPS
Will Hayes (9, 55), Roarke Smith (5, 53), Lin Jong (0, 0), Callum Porter (0, 0)
Goddard says: Based on Champion Data ranking points, Macrae, Dunkley and Bontempelli were three of the top eight midfielders in the AFL in 2019. The trio are all stars. However, it should be noted the Bulldogs still ranked 12th for total clearances, some of which could be put down to playing a developing young ruckman in Tim English. The return of Tom Liberatore from injury should help those numbers, while Bailey Smith is an exciting young talent.
8. MELBOURNE

THE TOP-LINERS
Clayton Oliver (22, 109), James Harmes (22, 94), Ed Langdon (22, 86), Angus Brayshaw (22, 84), Jack Viney (21, 81), Adam Tomlinson (25, 69)
THE TOP-UPS
Oskar Baker (9, 48), Kyle Dunkley (5, 48), Kade Kolodjashnij (2, 40), James Jordon (0, 0), Aaron Nietschke (0, 0)
Goddard says: Yes, the Demons had a season from hell in 2019. However, the midfield wasn’t to blame too much as Melbourne ranked eighth for clearances and fifth for inside-50s. A full pre-season for Viney will help and Brayshaw is more than capable of returning to his 2018 form which saw him finish third in the Brownlow Medal. Langdon from Fremantle and Tomlinson from Greater Western Sydney will slot in nicely on either wing and add some much-needed outside run after being picked up during the trade period. I would also like to see Christian Petracca run through the midfield a bit more to add to the rotation. The Demons need to challenge him to take his fitness to the next level so he can.
9. ESSENDON

THE TOP-LINERS
Zach Merrett (23, 105), Dylan Shiel (22, 98), Dyson Heppell (18, 95), Darcy Parish (21, 85), David Zaharakis (20, 79), Andrew McGrath (23, 75), Devon Smith (7, 69), Matt Guelfi (17, 56)
The Top-Ups
Tom Cutler (3, 78), Dylan Clarke (11, 65), Kobe Mutch (1, 0)
Goddard says: The Bombers are still lacking one inside ball winner – something that was not addressed during the trade period – but they have most other stations covered. Heppell is an ever-consistent performer and Merrett has serious all-round class. The return of 2018 best-and-fairest Devon Smith will certainly help, Parish’s development has been pleasing and McGrath and Zahararkis provide the run on the outside. Zaharakis just needs to continue to work on his stoppage craft.
10. HAWTHORN

THE TOP-LINERS
James Worpel (22, 97), Ricky Henderson (22, 95), Jaeger O’Meara (21, 91), Liam Shiels (19, 87), Isaac Smith (19, 83), Tom Scully (21, 66), Tom Mitchell (0, 0)
THE TOP-UPS
Daniel Howe (12, 74), James Cousins (12, 70), Harry Morrison (9, 53), Will Golds (0, 0), Harrison Jones (0, 0)
Goddard says: The Hawks onball brigade should be much-improved in 2020 with the return of Brownlow medallist Mitchell from a broken leg which saw him miss the entire season. Worpel’s development across the 2019 season was incredible, leading to a deserving best-and-fairest win. Tom Scully would be hoping to get a full pre-season in and build on his form of last season, while Ricky Henderson is coming off a career-best season at the ripe old age of 31. There is talent there, but I think the Hawks are just lacking one or two top-end inside players.
11. PORT ADELAIDE

THE TOP-LINERS
Travis Boak (21, 107), Tom Rockliff (18, 92), Ollie Wines (12, 88), Karl Amon (17, 77), Sam Powell-Pepper (19, 74), Xavier Duursma (20, 74)
THE TOP-UPS
Willem Drew (10, 73), Joe Atley (1, 74), Sam Mayes (0, 0), Jake Patmore (0, 0)
Goddard says: Could be considered a tad stiff to be ranked 11th, given the Power were third for total clearances and first for inside-50s last season. But they are lacking depth and top-end talent. Boak is coming off an outstanding year and I’m excited to see how Duursma continues to develop. Connor Rozee might also find himself playing more midfield time next year, as well as Dan Houston. A pre-season and injury-free run for Wines would be a major boost after a difficult 2019.
12. NORTH MELBOURNE

THE TOP-LINERS
Ben Cunnington (22, 102), Shaun Higgins (17, 94), Jack Ziebell (22, 91), Jared Polec (22, 87), Jed Anderson (17, 87), Trent Dumont (21, 84), Jy Simpkin (21, 70), Luke Davies-Uniacke (14, 63), Ben Jacobs (0, 0)
THE TOP-UPS
Aaron Hall (6, 76), Dom Tyson (3, 75), Kyron Hayden (1, 31)
Goddard says: The Kangaroos have a good core, with an ever-reliable top-three in Cunnington, Higgins and Ziebell. There is also plenty of upside with the improvement left in Anderson, Simpkin and Dumont and the potential return of one of the best taggers in the game in Jacobs, who has not played since Round 16, 2018. Based on the improvement in the second half of last season, North Melbourne could well exceed this ranking.
13. ST KILDA

THE TOP-LINERS
Seb Ross (22, 98), Dan Hannebery (5, 96), Jack Steele (20, 95), Jack Billings (22, 94), Luke Dunstan (18, 93), Zak Jones (17, 86), Bradley Hill (22, 84), Jade Gresham (19, 84)
THE TOP-UPS
Ed Phillips (4, 63), Doulton Langlands (3, 53), Jack Bytel (0, 0)
Goddard says: The Saints have a capable midfield, but it’s one that simply doesn’t have the A-Grade talent of other sides. In saying that, I wouldn’t be surprised if Billings or Gresham moved themselves up into that bracket next year. St Kilda will be hoping for much more out Hannebery after a disappointing, injury-interrupted year. Steele and Ross are ever consistent with their form and I like the recruitment of Hill from Fremantle, who adds some much-needed outside speed.
14. CARLTON

THE TOP-LINERS
Patrick Cripps (20, 117), Ed Curnow (22, 91), Marc Murphy (19, 91), Sam Walsh (22, 87), Jack Newnes (20, 71), Zac Fisher (21, 66), Will Setterfield (18, 61), Paddy Dow (19, 54), Lachie O’Brien (17, 45)
Goddard says: Cripps is the cream and a star of the competition. Walsh is a soon-to-be A-Grader on the back of winning the Rising Star award last season. But it drops away a bit after that. Murphy and Curnow are coming off great seasons and have been super reliable for many years but enter next season the other side of 30. Can they produce the same sort of campaigns again next year? Newnes comes in from St Kilda and should be a regular but is only rated average in every key statistical area. It is a waiting game over the development of Setterfield and Dow. It’s their time to step up and shine. The Blues have made no secret of the fact they think they lack another A-Grade midfielder over the past two years.
15. ADELAIDE

THE TOP-LINERS
Matt Crouch (19, 104), Rory Sloane (22, 103), Brad Crouch (22, 98), Rory Atkins (20, 75), Paul Seedsman (13, 72), Bryce Gibbs (12, 69), David Mackay (18, 67)
THE TOP-UPS
Patrick Wilson (1, 50), Ned McHenry (0, 0)
Goddard says: There is a real sameness about the Crows’ midfield. It lacks flexibility, with most of the players in there all like-for-like. Sloane is a competitor but doesn’t possess dynamic speed. Gibbs was dropped four times last season and is much the same player as Matt Crouch. There is simply not the depth of talent and not the leg-speed of other teams. Adelaide has to find someone to step up. Defenders Wayne Milera and Brodie Smith had rotations in the midfield at stages last season to try and find speed and penetration of ball use. Could one of them make a permanent midfield move?
16. SYDNEY

THE TOP-LINERS
Josh Kennedy (19, 107), Luke Parker (22, 105), Isaac Heeney (22, 94), George Hewett (22, 88), Oliver Florent (21, 69), Ryan Clarke (14, 57)
THE TOP-UPS
Lewis Taylor (5, 71), Justin McInerney (1, 21), Zac Foot (0, 0)
Goddard says: Kieran Jack is gone. Kennedy is ageing and will turn 32 in June. Who is going to step up and replace them? Is Heeney going to be the inside all-round elite midfielder we all hoped he would be? Parker will continue doing what he’s done for six or seven years. The Swans’ outside class is pretty good in young Florent and I expect Callum Mills and Will Hayward to join him and play more midfield minutes next season. There are clearly spots up for grabs.
17. FREMANTLE

THE TOP-LINERS
Nat Fyfe (20, 120), Michael Walters (22, 101), David Mundy (22, 88), Darcy Tucker (22, 73), Blake Acres (19, 71), Andrew Brayshaw (22, 71), Reece Conca (22, 68)
THE TOP-UPS
Stefan Giro (0, 0), Luke Valente (0, 0)
Goddard says: Reigning Brownlow medallist Fyfe is the standout along with Walters who is also a star of the competition. But after that the Dockers are still relying on Mundy too much and it drops right away after that. Brayshaw was taken at pick 2 in the 2017 draft and needs to step up and have a breakout year in 2020.
18. GOLD COAST

THE TOP-LINERS
David Swallow (22, 88), Brayden Fiorini (21, 88), Hugh Greenwood (14, 86), Touk Miller (18, 85), Anthony Miles (17, 84), Brandon Ellis (23, 82), Darcy MacPherson (22, 82), Jack Bowes (15, 76)
THE TOP-UPS
Wil Powell (13, 55), Sam Fletcher (0, 0), Mitch Riordan (0, 0)
Goddard says: Swallow remains the standout and there a couple of ever-reliable competitors in Miles and Miller. The additions of Ellis (Richmond) and Greenwood (Adelaide) will certainly make the Suns’ midfield better year-on-year, while the development of Bowes is also exciting. But there is still just a clear void of A-Grade talent. Could highly-rated youngster Izak Rankine return from injury and be added to the midfield mix in 2020 to help fill that void?

Meh. Who cares.

 

[Calcium Man]

Floggard rated each team, enough said really. The fact he put Kmac into our top liners says it all.

And no Caddy, Edwards, and Lambert

 

[Tiger Toffee]

And no Caddy, Edwards, and Lambert

Looks like he went off supercoach numbers and that's it, a lot of midfields like to accumulate possessions unlike us where we just kick, tap on, handball forward hack of the ground etc etc
We play a completely different ball game to the rest of the comp so rankings like this mean jack s**t to us.

No round the back one two's for us unless Soldo is handing it to Dusty.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Floggard rated each team, enough said really. The fact he put Kmac into our top liners says it all.

Think you explained it pretty well.

 

[4tune8]

And no Caddy, Edwards, and Lambert

Or Bolton and Stack

 

[A Banderas]

cant wait to be pissed celebrating at the granny again

 

[Calcium Man]

Or Bolton and Stack

I thought about those 2, but I can understand overlooking them (and Higgins) as they play forward/back. But the other 3 are senior players and 2x Premiership players but still get overlooked.

Continues to show just how underrated so many guys on our team are. * me most people just worked out who Grimes is.

 

[4tune8]

I thought about those 2, but I can understand overlooking them (and Higgins) as they play forward/back. But the other 3 are senior players and 2x Premiership players but still get overlooked.

Continues to show just how underrated so many guys on our team are. fu** me most people just worked out who Grimes is.

yeah maybe not Stack but Bolton was spending more time at clearances later on in the year.

This is for the Centre Bounce Attendance for round 17...

Also note that Bolton had 20 CBA's in the previous game.

 

[LC_15]

Supercoach stats are a little overrated if you look at our game plan. Turning the ball over in our front half more means that the number of junk stats you get to move forward are going to be lower. If for example you're like most team, rebound heavily off your backline then the numbers are going to be higher. I just dont care anymore about the stats. This is why we have been so good for 3 years, our efficiency is higher because we dont have to move the ball from our backline as much.

 

[Calcium Man]

yeah maybe not Stack but Bolton was spending more time at clearances later on in the year.

This is for the Centre Bounce Attendance for round 17...View attachment 777557

Also note that Bolton had 20 CBA's in the previous game.

I know Bolton is a mid in the future but come finals he was a forward so understand him being forgotten considering his age and only just starting to make a name for himself. Although he should have been in the up and comers section.

All in all it’s hard to take Goddard seriously if can * up that badly with us which other teams did he * up? Probably only Saints and Bombers are close to right

 

[4tune8]

I know Bolton is a mid in the future but come finals he was a forward so understand him being forgotten considering his age and only just starting to make a name for himself. Although he should have been in the up and comers section.

All in all it’s hard to take Goddard seriously if can fu** up that badly with us which other teams did he fu** up? Probably only Saints and Bombers are close to right

Agree with all of the above

 

[Hoos]

Floggard rated each team, enough said really. The fact he put Kmac into our top liners says it all.

That and not even mentioning Sheds. What a knob. He's up there with Dal Santo.

 

[Marcel Proust]

yeah maybe not Stack but Bolton was spending more time at clearances later on in the year.

This is for the Centre Bounce Attendance for round 17...View attachment 777557

Also note that Bolton had 20 CBA's in the previous game.

There was a stat in the minor premiership season, late, richmond were often getting pantz inside until Jack Higgins went on-ball. On the eye test too Higgins seemed to play well when given the chance inside.

It has always been fascinating to me junior coaches type figures say Stack is an inside midfielder. He was very unfit when Richmond first got him (for afl standards) and has a lot of class as a outside mid / forward / back (goals, goals assist, lock down d, rebound d, killing viney etc.) but if his favorite spot is inside mid i hope he plays there...

On the Stack highlight videos of his junior footy, a bit of it seems to be Stack causing damage in the guts too.

Bolton ideally too would turn out to be a Edwards or Lambert inside/outside A grade mid - seems to have all the tools and is surprisingly good in there

 

[Sir_Loin]

From the Blues board. Haven't had a good laugh as this for a while. No wonder they struggle to get away from 'the boys club' with this mentality.

"Take a step back. What are we? What are we if not the people who have made the club? Who bled for it? Do we not identify with THEM? Isn’t that who we are?

Do loyal foot soldiers deserve respect? Like all people do. But the Silvagni family? Especially so. I bawled my eyes out at Stephens 300th. And again at his last game. I nothing short of weeped when his son ran out for the first time.

Doesn’t Stephen deserve more than have potential recruits be brought to the club without his knowledge? Like anyone in that role would deserve more. But fu**. It’s an insult. Whether you like it or not he IS a lot more than List Manager to us.

He IS us. We ARE him.

Show him some God Damned ******* RESPECT. Else you don’t respect ME. You don’t respect US. You dont respect what we stand for.

Do NOT tear down the walls by burning the wood from which it has been made. Do NOT. You will NOT. Not on my ******* watch. Not this day. Not this time.

He’s Stephen God Damn ******* Silvagni campaigner. Show him some RESPECT.
"

fair melt that. At least the blue baggers can do one thing right

 

[HTT]

yeah maybe not Stack but Bolton was spending more time at clearances later on in the year.

This is for the Centre Bounce Attendance for round 17...View attachment 777557

Also note that Bolton had 20 CBA's in the previous game.

That number is percentage change I think I.e. Bolton attended 58% of CBs in the previous game

 

[4tune8]

That number is percentage change I think I.e. Bolton attended 58% of CBs in the previous game

Yep, my bad

 

[Tigerbob68]

I just dont care anymore about the stats.

The stat for most wins in games deciding the season premier for 2019 isn't a bad one.

 

[Neen]

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The Five Supporters are Flynn Appleby, John Noble, Ben Reid, Daniel Wells and some other Lollingwood fringe player you can google search... MASSIVE injuries....

 

[SunshineBoy]

Supercoach stats are a little overrated if you look at our game plan. Turning the ball over in our front half more means that the number of junk stats you get to move forward are going to be lower. If for example you're like most team, rebound heavily off your backline then the numbers are going to be higher. I just dont care anymore about the stats. This is why we have been so good for 3 years, our efficiency is higher because we dont have to move the ball from our backline as much.

the only stat that counts is the score at the end of the game

 

[Not Important]

My Super deductions and other tax strategies (legal) result in me paying no tax. Then I get a nice tax refund deposit for the franking credits that I receive with my dividends. But lets not have an in-depth tax discussion here. Go Tiges. Play loose but don't lose.

you're fortunate bill didn't get in then. go tigs!

 

[Meli]

For the re2cord, I think this is a stupid concept, but no Alex Rance! Whaaaa!
This guy has no idea!