- Mar 2, 2007
- AFL Club
- Western Bulldogs
- Other Teams
- Melb Victory
I always thought there was something suss about Clayton. He inevitably picked utter sh*te. It's as if he was planted to ensure we blew every decent pick we had. We thrived when he left....Touche. Maybe Scott Clayton was a Malthouse-esque infiltrator from the Lions?? /s
As bas as he was Scotty Clayton was no Mark Kleiman.I always thought there was something suss about Clayton. He inevitably picked utter sh*te. It's as if he was planted to ensure we blew every decent pick we had. We thrived when he left....
Much like Dodo is a joint venture Carlton and Collingwood plant
Apparently if we wanted Grundy, that'd cost us Tim English (best young ruck in the competition), Bailey Smith (best young midfielder in the competition), and Ed Richards (handy flanker/wing who could be anything).Wow what you’re really saying is you don’t rate Grundy.
Let’s look at that to start with. Grundy is at his peak and is arguably the most dominant Ruck in the comp. Easily worth two top 10 first rounders. And one of those picks would have to in the top 3. A dominant player across the ground of his ilk is worth no less. As there is not one kid in this draft or the next 10 that can replace his current output.
So now that we’ve established his worth. Let’s look at the others mentioned.
Tim English. As good a young up coming kid he is. He is still 3-4 years away from producing the consistent output that Grundy is. Don’t just look at stats. Look at the one percenters that don’t get quantified. And currently no one would give them anymore than what they gave for him. But I’ll be generous. We’ll say that Tim has been elevated to a top 10 pick now.
Bailey Smith. A really good talent and what you would expect from a pick 7 in a draft. Considering the previous 6 picks before him are just as talented. I don’t know of two many sides that would be giving up any more than what the Dogs used to get Bailey unfortunately. But I’ll be more accommodating. Let’s say Bailey is now worth a top 3 pick. Let’s hope he continues his upward trajectory.
So now we really get to the argument. As Grundy has covered both the Dogs concerns of worth. Is Ed Richards worth more than an early second round pick. Let’s say mid 20’s. The Dogs used pick 16. So looking at it closer Richards does tip the scale in Collingwood’s favor. But Collingwood don’t need Richards types as we have those. He was just for nostalgia. But you have to give a little to get what you need.
With Grundy the Dogs become a genuine chance to flag. Without him it’s a role of the dice on a week to week basis.
I’m sure that a lot of the Dogs supporters here are just like Collingwood supporters sometimes they can’t see the forest from the trees.
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Dawks fan reckons they'll get band 1 compo for Isaac Smith leaving.Gee imagine ....finish 2nd Bottom .
Let Smith go as a FA ......offer to stump up coin ( which we have ) to elevate the compo to after first pick ...
pick 2,3, 19 ( thanks Nth ) and Conner .......rebuild in full swing !
I think the Scott Clayton bashing here is over the top.As bas as he was Scotty Clayton was no Mark Kleiman.
Norf board thinking they will get a top 10 pick for Brown in current form.Mitch Cleary - Ben Brown would garner a pick from 25-30. f*n lol
He should of stayed sacked coming out with bullshit like that. Why would we trade him for that sh*t? f*n dickhead.
Hate for us is definitely at an all time high at the minute. Throw in an already successful team that looks like it could do it again, a few Chol butt grabs, oppo fans realising that yes we are just as good away from the G, Cotch’s mrs getting a bit of a pamper (love you Brooke wouldn’t change a thing), Lynch never getting suspended, Dimma calling out campaigners, and us as a supporter base that refuse to take an ounce of crap... and here we are.
And I love it.
Who’s David Shwartz. Never heard of him
A bog average forward for Melbourne during the 90's who made a lot of risky investments in horse races.
I was born after their long, successful part of their history. After seeing two Tiger premierships and the return of arrogance. I now understand why they are hated.I think you can just put all Richmond fans in here, what a bunch of arrogant campaigners.