Rumour Optus Stadium surface issues

[masai]

Not at bloody Kardinya Park.

I just get confused with all the sponsors name’s, the naming for the ovals seems to change regularly.

In relation to Geelong, saying they are playing at Geelong, I know exactly where they are playing.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

I just get confused with all the sponsors name’s, the naming for the ovals seems to change regularly.

In relation to Geelong, saying they are playing at Geelong, I know exactly where they are playing.

It was more in reference to the amount of West Aussies on here that spell it as Kardinya rather than Kardinia.

It has been Shell, Baytec, Skilled, Simmonds but will always be Kardinia to us.

I actually don't mind it being GMHBA Stadium. GMHBA are a Geelong company that have been big in the town for over 80 years.

 

[JohnZ]

I think the main issue with the hardness of Docklands is that the concrete car park is under it. That won't be getting fixed unless the demolish it and start again.

The car park is under the stands.
The foundation under the oval isn’t terribly deep which means the top soil is pretty shallow, that’s what makes it hard. Same issues with optus apparently

 

[Billy ray]

It was more in reference to the amount of West Aussies on here that spell it as Kardinya rather than Kardinia.

It has been Shell, Baytec, Skilled, Simmonds but will always be Kardinia to us.

I actually don't mind it being GMHBA Stadium. GMHBA are a Geelong company that have been big in the town for over 80 years.

That’s because there is a suburb in Perth Kardinya.
It’s like people from NSW who have an Armidale but in Vic and WA there is an Armadale

 

[kane249]

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-06-11/dockers-to-avoid-training-at-optus-stadium-indefinitely

Fremantle to avoid training at Optus stadium until further notice

 

[Billy ray]

Wonder what it would cost to remove 50cm of grass and soil and bring in soil from Melbourne and lay under grass reticulation so the subsoil could remain wet and soft without slippery grass itself

 

[Numero Uno]

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-06-11/dockers-to-avoid-training-at-optus-stadium-indefinitely

Fremantle to avoid training at Optus stadium until further notice

freo supporters were very chirpy earlier in the year claiming Adam Simpson was using stadium issues as an excuse

not the 1st ignorant claim they have made over the years

 

[matthew_s]

Wonder what it would cost to remove 50cm of grass and soil and bring in soil from Melbourne and lay under grass reticulation so the subsoil could remain wet and soft without slippery grass itself

I dont think flying in soil from Melb will solve anything.

 

[Billy ray]

I dont think flying in soil from Melb will solve anything.

What about under grass retic?

 

[matthew_s]

What about under grass retic?

no idea, if it was my backyard, i'd give it a good aeration.

 

[Crankitup]

no idea, if it was my backyard, i'd give it a good aeration.

They already do this. Although I'm not sure if they do it often enough seeing as there is some artificial turf in the mix and the damage it would do to that component.

Another link referring to the aeration.

 

[Dirty_banchez]

It's bad enough Optus Stadium lacks the soul and history of Subiaco, but now the ground is hurting players. Another Barnett Boondoggle that should be demolished.

 

[matthew_s]

It's bad enough Optus Stadium lacks the soul and history of Subiaco, but now the ground is hurting players. Another Barnett Boondoggle that should be demolished.

steady on.

 

[Crankitup]

What about under grass retic?

The problem with subsurface reticulation is that the emitters are prone to blockage and you have no way of knowing where and when the blockages have occurred until things start dying.

 

[Swarhily]

It's bad enough Optus Stadium lacks the soul and history of Subiaco, but now the ground is hurting players. Another Barnett Boondoggle that should be demolished.

Do you want footy played at Subiaco forever? Get a grip my dude

 

[Obeanie1]

https://thewest.com.au/sport/perth-...optus-stadium-surface-hardness-ng-b881228097z

Well the ARL is having a look at the Optus stadium surface before state of origin. Reading the article this jumped off the page to me.

Mr McKenna dismissed a persistent rumour that the reason for the hardness was that Optus Stadium’s turf was laid on concrete.

“The stadium was built on a swamp,” he said. “There was soil that was compressed to provide an impermeable layer and after that we laid down 400mm of gravel for drainage, 300mm of sand and then about 40mm of turf.

“You are talking about nearly a metre of stuff between the top of grass and the layer of dirt underneath it.”

300mm of sand. What do you put under concrete? SAND.

Why? Because it compacts nice and hard and doesn't move.

Same at the beach, wet sand gets hard.

So 4cm of turf may move a bit but 30cm of sand won't. If wet it will stay hard. Sand is not topsoil or dirt as McKenna calls it.

They aren't called Sandgropers for no reason, Perth is built on sand. To get this right they need to pull up the sand and replace it with 15-20cm with some decent clay/top soil blend above the sand. That will provide some movement under foot.

No wonder players are getting injured.

 

[kane249]

https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/f...o-solve-problem-says-ross-lyon-ng-b881229682z

Eagles and the Dockers to meet with Stadium management to look into the issues

 

[Billy ray]

Yep there is your problem. Sand. Should have been a clay soil with retic to keep it wet in Perths hot dry climate

 

[Ok Boomer]

freo supporters were very chirpy earlier in the year claiming Adam Simpson was using stadium issues as an excuse

not the 1st ignorant claim they have made over the years

Pretty sad that they only want to find a solution now because they are realising that it is hurting them too.

 

[WillieNillie]

What happens very much depends on the Big Bash. Its been requested that the Scorchers do not start playing any home games till mid January in order to tear it up and well start again once the test match is over. Everyone will lose a lot of money with this so the current hold up is who pays what.

 

[mouncey2franklin]

How in this day and age can a mistake like this be made?

I remember the disaster of the Docklands and its initial turf issues, back then it was like, 'how could people mess this up?'

Now two decades later and the same mistakes have been made, have they?

How? Who gets paid for these decisions? Who gets fired and is never given another job in the industry?

Farcical and disgraceful.

 

[WillieNillie]

Carlton put in complaints post game about the stadium. Told officials they took advise from Subiaco medical staff in not playing Cripps and the players pretty much told them it was the right call.

Put money on Carlton to get flogged next week as on the face of it they won't pull up well

 

[The Falcon Strike]

but but but... the testing

 

[Crankitup]

It seems as though the Gabba had similar problems.

Brisbane champion Jonathan Brown revealed he and his teammates battled a similar issue with the Gabba during their premiership era.

“Leigh Matthews ordered that we had to go and train somewhere else, because when they did it up for the 2000 Sydney Olympics, and they played some soccer games there, it’s a problem with the modern stadiums,” Brown said on Fox Footy.

“When they build them new, there's a heavy sand base now to help the draining. It's hard for them to soften it up.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/af...f/news-story/17b43a5e212b772134caebd891abd014

 

[ryancash]

It was more in reference to the amount of West Aussies on here that spell it as Kardinya rather than Kardinia.

It has been Shell, Baytec, Skilled, Simmonds but will always be Kardinia to us.

I actually don't mind it being GMHBA Stadium. GMHBA are a Geelong company that have been big in the town for over 80 years.

It's Western Stralya mate!