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I swear some of you are just baitin me. Cant you flickin read dude. YOU DONT WATCH IT ON YOUR PHONE! The phone is just the stream tool....you watch it on a big screen.....welcome to the new millennia cave dweller.

And call me what you like, I am semi retired, on a lesser income because I choose not to work any more than I do. You choose what suits you Rockerfella..... Let them eat cake sound fam to ya? Sheesh.
I have foxtel and have done since the original footy channel for that reason
miss white line fever
saying that I have no idea how to down load it on my Iphone 4 and then put it on my TV
call me a tool or any other name but tell me how and I will appreciate it
 

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Banger, do a speed test (speedtest.net) its free. You need at least 3mbs for xbox streaming to work. As I posted earlier, I would have jumped on this option months ago, but I live too far away from the exchange to get a fast enough feed. I do random tests and I rarely exceed 2.5mbs down.

Edit, the Foxtel website says 1.5mbs but the fox installer told me 3mbs. I will enquire and report back.
 

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I have foxtel and have done since the original footy channel for that reason
miss white line fever
saying that I have no idea how to down load it on my Iphone 4 and then put it on my TV
call me a tool or any other name but tell me how and I will appreciate it
I dont have an iphone, my wife does. I have an android phone and am about to upgrade to a new contract. I believe there is a plug in hdmi out adaptor available for an iphone but I dont know exactly. For an android phone like the Samsung Galaxy S2 or Nexus, or Moto Razor droid, HTC Velocity etc, you just get a hdmi cord with a mini hdmi on one end and a full hdmi on the other and the cable does the rest. I often watch movies or games I download (thanks Zee) to my laptop on my big screen directly from from my laptop by just using the hdmi cable. It carries both audio and video and also auto resizes to match your screen. So much easier than the old serial cable monitor out options windows used to use. Its true plug n play. The phone is no different, just plug n play, whether its a pre recorded file or a live stream, whatever is on the phone screen and coming out of the phone speaker transfers to the TV.

Would you like me to research how to do it with an iphone? Its no sweat buddy. In fact, I am tempted to the dark side because for some reason IOS has the ability to have the delay at only 2 minutes but for some reason Android is still some time longer than that. I am currently investigating if there is an android app that has closed that gap.
 

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fair enough, no need to call him a tool, sheeesh :rolleyes::
I dont take too kindly to being called a tight arse. Its that kind of elitist bs that has the world in such a mess right now. If someone has less than you it dont make them less than you. Sheesh :rolleyes:
 

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No problem Guns, if you have a 4S though. Wife has a 3gS but also due a new contract in May.

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC953ZM/A

And the download is via an app that would connect you automatically. If you are with Next G you can buy a modified mobile Foxtel for $90 for 6 months but they have not announced what the AFL deal to phones is yet. If you want to try the Optus TV now that too is an app. I am told though that if you want Melb TV channels you must take out the phone contract to a Melb address, then it doesnt matter where you watch it. (That too could be B/S, its what a pimply phone dork in an Optus shop told me, havent double checked it yet.)

(Sorry phone dork, I guess I am a pot calling you black dude!).

Edit: Sorry Guns, on second read it says it works with Iphone 4. It initialy says 4s but later down the page it says: "The Apple Digital AV Adapter also supports video out for iPad, iPhone 4, or iPod touch (4th generation)". Live streaming wont work with Ipod though because it is GSM based not web based, so you need a 3g or 4g signal.
 
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No problem Guns, if you have a 4S though. Wife has a 3gS but also due a new contract in May.

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC953ZM/A

And the download is via an app that would connect you automatically. If you are with Next G you can buy a modified mobile Foxtel for $90 for 6 months but they have not announced what the AFL deal to phones is yet. If you want to try the Optus TV now that too is an app. I am told though that if you want Melb TV channels you must take out the phone contract to a Melb address, then it doesnt matter where you watch it. (That too could be B/S, its what a pimply phone dork in an Optus shop told me, havent double checked it yet.)

(Sorry phone dork, I guess I am a pot calling you black dude!).

Edit: Sorry Guns, on second read it says it works with Iphone 4. It initialy says 4s but later down the page it says: "The Apple Digital AV Adapter also supports video out for iPad, iPhone 4, or iPod touch (4th generation)". Live streaming wont work with Ipod though because it is GSM based not web based, so you need a 3g or 4g signal.
excuse my ignorance and I know I am a tight arse but if I did this wouldn't a stream like smash my down load gigs or whatever and end up costing me a heap? and does it mean I need to get an apartment in inner city melb and maybe a tall leggy blonde named Monique in it just to make it viable (happy to make Monique viable as often that is required)
so this adapter is a cable of some sort? does it have to plug into a USB on a HD TV?
 

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excuse my ignorance and I know I am a tight arse but if I did this wouldn't a stream like smash my down load gigs or whatever and end up costing me a heap? and does it mean I need to get an apartment in inner city melb and maybe a tall leggy blonde named Monique in it just to make it viable (happy to make Monique viable as often that is required)
so this adapter is a cable of some sort? does it have to plug into a USB on a HD TV?
No Guns, its totally unmetered. If you are with Optus now, you can get 45 minutes of recording (and the download limit required to watch it) free. But for AFL obviously you will need to subscribe to more storage space. Its $6.99 for 5 hours per month. And again un-metered. Kind of like how they dont apply facebook etc in your download limit. 20 hours is ten bucks a month. They will only keep recordings for one month and then they auto delete, I think they are prohibited from keeping them longer.

See the details here:

http://www.optustvnow.optus.com.au/...22012&s_kwcid=TC|17886|TV now||S|b|9960903396

And Foxtel mobile is also unmetered, but as I said, they have not announced yet what they are charging or how they are selling AFL. I was hoping they would do pay per view for games so I could just buy the Blues games Live.

http://telstra.com.au/foxtel/mobile.html

They have just removed the $89 for all channels for 6 month package, so perhaps that is because they are about to add the footy package. But I am pretty sure you can still buy the 6 month deal in Telstra stores, but dont quote me because I have not checked with them for a few weeks.

The cable is just that, one end plugs into your iphone the same way the charger does, then you plug a regular hdmi cable into the end of that cable and then the other end of the hdmi cable goes into the hdmi slot on the tv, all flat screens have them. It looks about the size of a usb slot but has angled sides. Then you change the source mode on the tv from whatever it is set to now (ie tv, auxilary in if you use that for a set top box or blueray/dvd player etc, to hdmi, most new tv's have more than one slot so they are numbered.

And Monique is totally optional.
 

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40 year - is optus your isp? Check the profile they have set for your adsl connection and whether you can change it. Most ISPs set your connection to a very conservative profile to prevent your internet connection dropping out. This greatly reduces speed. You can choose a potentially less stable profile that maximises speed and check to see if there is dropout. In 20% of cases it causes your connection to be less stable - in the vast majority there is no difference.

For example my parents are 6km from an exchange and were lucky to get 2MBS on ADSL2. I changed their profile and they had zero dropout and get 20MBS. I was on 8MBS and now get 23MBS. If you need more info let me know.

Guns the iPhone 4 has an output on it that you plug into your tv. Do you have a laptop? If it is reasonably new you can do the same thing.
 
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I am with Telstra and have Foxtel so don't really need to change except we have a lot of Sun and Fri night games when i work
and I am taking applications for the role of Monique





hint hint bluegal and aph
 

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40 year - is optus your isp? Check the profile they have set for your adsl connection and whether you can change it. Most ISPs set your connection to a very conservative profile to prevent your internet connection dropping out. This greatly reduces speed. You can choose a potentially less stable profile that maximises speed and check to see if there is dropout. In 20% of cases it causes your connection to be less stable - in the vast majority there is no difference.

For example my parents are 6km from an exchange and were lucky to get 2MBS on ADSL2. I changed their profile and they had zero dropout and get 20MBS. I was on 8MBS and now get 23MBS. If you need more info let me know.

Guns the iPhone 4 has an output on it that you plug into your tv. Do you have a laptop? If it is reasonably new you can do the same thing.
Nah, with TPG. Have been with them for about 5 years and moved to a new house in Sept last year. Used to live in an apartment and rented a separate office, now we live in a house and work from home.

At the last place speed was never an issue, here it sucks! Not something you think too much about when you move......and you dont find out for a few weeks after because of the time it takes for them to get you up and running. TPG have sent a telstra linesman out twice because they feel that even though we are 4k from the exchange it seems worse than they think it should be. I just did another check, ping speed is 45ms but down speed is only 1.89mbs. I mean that is almost dial up speed. Bring on the NBN!

The good news is at the last place our mobile coverage sucked. I was with voda for a long time and couldnt move if the phone rang or it would drop out and forget 3g, we barely got edge so it was next to useless. Moved to optus and it wasnt much better, some kind of tower black spot, which is ironic as we lived on the water so not sure what was blocking it. Now our optus is super fast and flawless. I often switch to my mobile and use it as a hotspot to my laptop to get better speed!

We are close to giving TPG the last chance or we churn call though.
 

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I swear some of you are just baitin me. Cant you flickin read dude. YOU DONT WATCH IT ON YOUR PHONE! The phone is just the stream tool....you watch it on a big screen.....welcome to the new millennia cave dweller. The phone or the xbox both stream via the intermanet dude. And with HSDPA or 4g the speeds are as fast or faster than many currently get with adsl2.

And call me what you like, I am semi retired, on a lesser income because I choose not to work any more than I do. You choose what suits you Rockerfella..... Let them eat cake sound fam to ya? Sheesh.
Mate, I call it as I see it. You already have Foxtel (with IQ), it's not like I'm abusing you for not having it. Adding an extra $20 a month to watch every game of the season live without all this mucking around seems a far better option than what you're proposing. The footy channel is free.

The fact that you have Fox means that you can't be struggling that much financially, so just upgrade to a better package and you'll get more out of it.
 

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Mate, I call it as I see it. You already have Foxtel (with IQ), it's not like I'm abusing you for not having it. Adding an extra $20 a month to watch every game of the season live without all this mucking around seems a far better option than what you're proposing. The footy channel is free.

The fact that you have Fox means that you can't be struggling that much financially, so just upgrade to a better package and you'll get more out of it.
Firstly you have no idea if I am struggling or about to buy 10% of Fairfax. Its irrelevant. That I am looking for alternatives tells you much more than the fact I already have foxtel. Perhaps I cant even afford foxtel. Perhaps I could afford to buy foxtel and give it away for free? Why would I canvas alternatives if I can just pay for it like it doesnt matter? You might want to think through the inane way you see it before you call it?

And second this and other threads and posts are not just a conversation between 2 protagonists, they and the information conveyed in them are for general consumption. There may be many others less fortunate than you or I that such threads and alternatives can assist.

Frikin capitalists........................... they think they own everyone's opinions.
 

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Anyone know how to get this shit internationally?

You know, Legit internet streaming O/S.
Mal, I am pretty sure that once Telstra announce their packages you will be able to buy an internet subscription to AFL streaming and provided you have the bandwidth (speed) where you are you ought to be able to access it anywhere. The GSM based (mobile phone) services will of course only be available via Optus or Next G here in AU.

(I dont doubt that eventually the loophole Optus have crawled through will be tightly shut, but the appeals process is likely to see this year out, then if that fails it might take another year before the government can legislate and gazette a change in the law, in an election year, with a hung parliament.......hmmm, if the courts dont overturn it, we could be in for the long hall).
 
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Firstly you have no idea if I am struggling or about to buy 10% of Fairfax. Its irrelevant. That I am looking for alternatives tells you much more than the fact I already have foxtel. Perhaps I cant even afford foxtel. Perhaps I could afford to buy foxtel and give it away for free? Why would I canvas alternatives if I can just pay for it like it doesnt matter? You might want to think through the inane way you see it before you call it?

And second this and other threads and posts are not just a conversation between 2 protagonists, they and the information conveyed in them are for general consumption. There may be many others less fortunate than you or I that such threads and alternatives can assist.

Frikin capitalists........................... they think they own everyone's opinions.
Haha...you might want to calm down there mate. All I'm saying is to upgrade to a better package. I've obviously hit a nerve in saying that you sound like a tight arse. I don't know if you are of course, but you sound like one.

Maybe if you listened to logic then you'd realise that what I'm proposing is much easier and more convenient for you.

I'd be amazed if you were struggling anyway, your posts alone hold the key to curing insomnia. That's gotta be a cash cow for you.
 

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Haha...you might want to calm down there mate. All I'm saying is to upgrade to a better package. I've obviously hit a nerve in saying that you sound like a tight arse. I don't know if you are of course, but you sound like one.

Maybe if you listened to logic then you'd realise that what I'm proposing is much easier and more convenient for you.

I'd be amazed if you were struggling anyway, your posts alone hold the key to curing insomnia. That's gotta be a cash cow for you.
Oh, upgrade to a better package....why didnt you just say that in the first place. They're free of course. No? Oh then you are offering to pay, anyone else wanna get on Franco de Trumps dime? Why not just pay to upgrade me instead of reading and having to reply to my posts, wouldnt that be easier and more convenient for you?

How about you find something genuine to contribute? I dont give a flying one what you or anyone else that clearly thinks just paying for more makes you a better person thinks.

There are people that cant afford your packages, and there is currently a cheap and legal (at the moment) alternative. It deserves to be aired and those that have a need deserve to know what is possible or will soon be possible.

Why is it you seem to have such a problem with that?
 

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According to Optus' TV now page, you can purchase an online rather than phone subscription to their recording and replay packages. The difference being that the data over their internet subscription service will be counted. I have no idea how big 3 hours of streaming would be, but I would think if it is reasonable quality it would have to be a couple of gig, so you would need to be on a reasonable to unlimited package for it to be worthwhile.

And Optus needs to be your ISP.

And this one might be a bit trickier for interstate users to access, because my current understanding is that they can only record the tv that you would normally be able to access from your home. That is if you are in Sydney and have a Sydney internet subscription then the TV you can record is FTA Sydney. Somewhat useless for the purpose of watching Melbourne televised games streamed to other non footy states on a few minutes delay to the Melb show times.

But perhaps your recording is accessible remotely if you are able to get around the Melbourne subscription loophole? Anyone know?
 

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Mal, I am pretty sure that once Telstra announce their packages you will be able to buy an internet subscription to AFL streaming and provided you have the bandwidth (speed) where you are you ought to be able to access it anywhere. The GSM based (mobile phone) services will of course only be available via Optus or Next G here in AU.
And thats the killer. Im with T Mobile pre paid here in the UK.

I cant sign up to Telstra while O/S.

It may have been different if I was in Oz, and signed up before I left for the UK, but even then I have a feeling I wouldnt be able to access it unless on Telstras 3G network in Oz.

Id also love it if Foxtel had an internet streaming option. I'd totally subscribe to an online streaming service of Fox Footy available O/S.

Just emailed ************* (was with them last year) and apparently they'll stream the NAB cup + 5 games per week.

£20 monthly subscription though kinda hurts!
 

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And thats the killer. Im with T Mobile pre paid here in the UK.

I cant sign up to Telstra while O/S.

It may have been different if I was in Oz, and signed up before I left for the UK, but even then I have a feeling I wouldnt be able to access it unless on Telstras 3G network in Oz.

Id also love it if Foxtel had an internet streaming option. I'd totally subscribe to an online streaming service of Fox Footy available O/S.

Just emailed ************* (was with them last year) and apparently they'll stream the NAB cup + 5 games per week.

£20 monthly subscription though kinda hurts!

You mentioned yourself in the first person, 5 times.
 
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