List Mgmt. Orazio Fantasia - SA bound?

[Deaneus!]

Orazio upon learning he could be leaving the Bombres​

Okay we’ve all heard Orazio wants to come home.

Does he come to us? To the degenerates down the road? Or does he get stuck at Essendrug?

Do we even need him? Is he worth picking up?



One year left on his Essendon contract... and we’d have to deal with Adrian Dodoro

For me: we don’t need him, we’ve got McAdam, Stengel and Murphy; he’s injury prone; he’ll cost too much.

EDIT: changed my mind, I'd take him (#destinationclub) but only on the cheap. IF Dodo's a pain in the arse we walk away, we got better s**t to do.

 

[Crom14]

I'm not heaps opposed to it, as long as we aren't giving up much. Lynch is starting to slow down, Stengle missing the first 4 next year and Murphy isn't a goal threat. Fantasia's injury history is a concern but Daniher has signalled one of the main reasons he's leaving is because of the medical staff, maybe a fresh outlook will help get his body right. Unreal player at his best, would add some serious pace, roll the dice.

 

[dplggr47]

Only if he's not expensive (contract-wise and trade-wise). Stengle missing games and already has two strikes to his name. Most don't see Murphy as a long term anything so why not. Port don't need him. Can't see them being interested unless it's to bump up his price to the Crows.

 

[BrissyCrow]

So we have Stengle, McAdam and Murphy and therefore we dont need Orazio. Well I think Orazio would be well ahead of Murphy. Stengle creates a concern given his behavior this year. McAdam we keep. So I think we could use Orazio. But I do have concerns about (1) the cost has to be in the second round no earlier (2) we can verify his physical issues (3) attitude. I dont know too much about him but some on here think he has a poor attitude. If thats the case then we dont need that at the club especially given that we are going through a rebuild. He has the talent and would be nice but he may have too much other baggage. I am sure that Kelly will do due diligence.

 

[Brett Cummings]

hopefully not. we dont need an injury plagued player clogging up a list spot.

 

[TryAnHit]

If Orazio can get fit... he is our best small fwd and likely top 5 small fwd in the comp.
Ess played him up the ground last few years for whatever reason... + his injuries...
Park him in the fwd line and will avg 2 goals a game

 

[Grenville]

If Orazio can get fit... he is our best small fwd and likely top 5 small fwd in the comp.
Ess played him up the ground last few years for whatever reason... + his injuries...
Park him in the fwd line and will avg 2 goals a game

Honestly hadnt seen much of him, being overseas, so I dug around a bit. Purely on talent, and at not quite 25 yet there's enough to be curious about.
Found a clip here:


Big year in 2017 - not many small forwards capable of 40 goal seasons in a mid table side....
Downhill since, missed 9 in 2018, 7 in 2019 then most of this year.

Not conclusive by any means, but feel like tackle numbers give you a pretty good idea of level of effort. Was averaging in the 3-4/game range (4.9 across 2018) until the past couple years - down to 2.1 and 1.2.

Would be interested to hear from those closer to essendon whether they think its a character/ego thing - found the heavily front loaded contract interesting - or symptomatic of state of the list or something else. Looks more to it than just fitness/injury.

Still, if you can get strong talent cheaply into a new environment with the right attitude & checks out injury wise seems worth a list spot for the right price.

 

[Panther Blood]

Okay we’ve all heard Orazio wants to come home

Does he come to us? To the degenerates down the road?

Do we even need him? Is he worth picking up?

One year left on his Essendon contract... and we’d have to deal with Adrian Dodoro

For me: we don’t need him, we’ve got McAdam, Stengel and Murphy; he’s injury prone; he’ll cost too much.

The simple question we need to ask ourselves is, is he a required player in a rebuild? .... No.

We're trying to go forward ....

We got our Hately, we'll pick up a KPF and some good young kids.

The one kid we NEED to go all out for is Parfitt. Give this kid good coin on a decent length. He will be an absolute fun in our rejuvenating midfield.

There's my 2 cents worth ...

 

[Geoffa32]

Port can have him.


All I would do is offer Essendon a third rounder and walk out. Spend no more time on the trade. Take or leave it.

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[Pugsley]

I get a feeling somehow there will be a deal involving Crouch and Fantasia here and Dodo will not be the one playing hardball.

 

[Golumless]

I'm not against it, seeing there is some talent there, and he has put up a couple of good seasons. That said, only if it was dirt cheap seeing how many injuries he had.

 

[Drewie11]

Comes at way too much of a risk. Should only offer a 2 year contract. He seems like the kind of guy that would get his body right for one year then coast until he was in the last year of his contract.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Happy to give the Bombers a 3rd rounder. Any more than that and we should walk away, nowhere near worth the high cost based on his form the past couple of years

 

[Cap]

I reckon we will cough up a late 2nd early 3rd.

 

[Deaneus!]

Big year in 2017 - not many small forwards capable of 40 goal seasons in a mid table side....

and he's not one of them

 

[Shaz2012]

I was a massive, massive fan of him a few years ago. But absolutely, categorically NO. I don't care if he doesn't cost anything either. Blocks a younger player. Most likely cooked or spends most of the time getting his body right. He is icing and we dont have the cake yet. Pass, pass, pass.

 

[Shaz2012]

I reckon we will cough up a late 2nd early 3rd.

 

[Sanders]

4th rounder

I’m coming round to him, as a bulwark should we need to cut bait with that halfwit Stengle

 

[crow2crow]

Honestly hadnt seen much of him, being overseas, so I dug around a bit. Purely on talent, and at not quite 25 yet there's enough to be curious about.
Found a clip here:


Big year in 2017 - not many small forwards capable of 40 goal seasons in a mid table side....
Downhill since, missed 9 in 2018, 7 in 2019 then most of this year.

Not conclusive by any means, but feel like tackle numbers give you a pretty good idea of level of effort. Was averaging in the 3-4/game range (4.9 across 2018) until the past couple years - down to 2.1 and 1.2.

Would be interested to hear from those closer to essendon whether they think its a character/ego thing - found the heavily front loaded contract interesting - or symptomatic of state of the list or something else. Looks more to it than just fitness/injury.

Still, if you can get strong talent cheaply into a new environment with the right attitude & checks out injury wise seems worth a list spot for the right price.

impressive highlights
only issue is these all came from the first year color tv was introduced into australia

 

[Apsaalooke]

Dodo usually wants players not draft picks.
Swap him for Kelly, maybe Lynch with a 4th rounder to us. Then hope for the best.
Will his inevitable medical bills count towards our soft cap?

 

[crow2crow]

Dodo usually wants players not draft picks.
Swap him for Kelly, maybe Lynch with a 4th rounder to us. Then hope for the best.
Will his inevitable medical bills count towards our soft cap?

kelly will go collingwood

gallucci poholke murphy likely candidates

 

[Crow till I die]

4th rounder

I’m coming round to him, as a bulwark should we need to cut bait with that halfwit Stengle

You just watch if we end up parting ways with stengle because 'it is the right thing to do or howver they will spin it'...after having negative press that a virtuous vic club will take him in the next draft period and all will be well with the vic media world

 

[Eagleboy2011]

kelly will go collingwood

gallucci poholke murphy likely candidates

Gooch needs another year here. Been injured. I still think he will come good. No to OF. To much baggage. We have just got Brouch fit and we want a 30 plus possession player out to bring in another crock on big money.

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

kelly will go collingwood

gallucci poholke murphy likely candidates

Im not convinced Kelly will end up at Collingwood

Bucks has said he needs a key forward and more run through the moddle

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[Dogga]

For a 3rd rounder or whatever we'd get in a trade for Kelly, Seedsman, Poholke, Gallucci id pull the trigger. With the question marks on Stengle, its worth the risk imo. Admittedly, his best football was 2 years ago but his best is streets ahead and a sizeable upgrade on Murphy.