OT: Dont Look Now Port Fans But Your Corporation is Showing.

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Hate to break it to you but according to a membership tally released by the AFL last season power had 37k members and today when I looked at lunch it was 29k when I just looked a moment ago it was 31,934 and theres still 4 days to goo sorry to poop the party. Apparently Crows lost 3% of their members this year which is usually the case. I think it was the same last year.
yeah but new members sign on, our actual membership numbers dont go down which is entirely different. Remember Adelaide went upto 50k members last year.
 

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Surely one of the most basic tests to determine if you are a club or corporation is to see whether a rank-and-file member can nominate to be on the Board.

As a PAFC member I can.

As a AFC member you cannot
 

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If you are going to have caveats for your threads, you can at least have them from the initial post.

My problem with your argument is that you have conflated the issue. There is a difference between being called a corporation or franchise which the Adeladie Football Club clearly is and getting more sponsorship from corporate sponsors which all clubs do.

When poster have a crack at the AFC for being a soulless abortion of the SANFL, a franchise that is born by backstabbing and the boardroom, a corporate entity that was a reaction not a positive sporting force, devoid of history and is little more than an amalgam of all those clubs that Port Adelaide use to call its bi-atch... then you can clearly see how such posters can call your team any epiphet that is oppositional to a team/club mentality with a rich history.

This is in strict difference to a club, and I say any club who picks up corporate sponsors. This is a fact of reality in sport or quite rightly the entertainment field of sport. All teams have corporate sponsors. Having more and lucrative sponsors is a good thing.

Can you see how you've conflated these issues? How they are completely different but your intellect cannot comprehend these obvious differences.

It's nice to see you've done your trolling proud and put it on Bay 13... for all to see.
great post - no arguments around here, except from the 'morg, but that doesnt count.

close the thread.
 

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Port was founded 130 odd years ago by a group of businessmen from the Port as a means of providing a sporting activity for the young men of the district. Over the years it's been a combination of business acumen and working class outlook that has powered the success of the club. All very modern really.
In other words, a corporation. Corp Power.
 

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Why? I didnt make the error.

Nice avatar. Good to see that your obsession has truely reached a level were medical help is really needed.
But rank-and-file members CAN'T nominate for the board of the Adelaide Crows. Well i suppose they can try but it won't get them far. All nominations are subject to SANFL approval, a clause put in place with the very purpose of stopping rank-and-file members from ever nominating.

"uncompromising, inclusive, proud".
 
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You might want to research that a bit better.
Ok..here's some facts.

On November 4, 2006 the Port Adelaide Football Club placed an advertisement in the Advertiser calling for nominations for the Board of Directors. As it turned out, two members nominated.

Given that there was only one vacancy at the time, the PAFC used a time-honoured democratic process (i.e. an election) to determine which member would be elected to the Board. On 15 December the election was held, with all PAFC members entitled to vote.

No SANFL vetting process, just a straightforward club based philospohy of allowing members to have a say in the running of their club.
 

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Rucci said:
Fickle fans negate inroads
I thought it was well accepted by now that Port simply don't have the size of supporter base it was always assumed pre-1997. In the last decade the membership figures have ranged from a high of 38305 in 1998 to a low of 33296 in 2001.

As for the fickle claim, between 2002 and 2004 - Port's boom period on the field - membership only moved by 120-odd people. That's hundred, not thousand.

In the aftermath of the Premiership year membership rose by less than 500 people. 500!

Hardly the stuff of bandwagoners or fickleness.

AAMI STADIUM. As the AFL admits, the arena is tired. The SANFL's refusal to allow beer to be taken to seats has turned away many of Port's core supporters.
Abysmal assumption.

Never mind issues like cost, work commitments, other sporting commitments or simple lack of supporter base - one of the core reasons thousands stay away is because you can't sink piss in your seat?

Really Rooch? Really?

LIVE TELEVISION. Of Port's 11 home games, as many as 10 will be shown live against the gate - eight on Pay-TV network Fox Sports. Foxtel executives told the AFL in Melbourne last week that subscriptions in Adelaide are "going through the roof".
It's not because terrestrial TV is increasingly awful and Foxtel are offering carrots left and right beginning with free installation - people want to see the Power dammit!...

PICK-AND-CHOOSE FANS. Rather than buy a season ticket for all 11 home games, fans decide on match day if they will go.
Wouldn't you if there were 20000 free seats to choose from each week? If you're one of the supporters who regularly can't make it due to financial, work or sporting reasons, you can rock up on any given weekend and see a game without the need to shell out hundreds for a season ticket you rarely use.

Top stuff, Rooch.
 

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Ok..here's some facts.

On November 4, 2006 the Port Adelaide Football Club placed an advertisement in the Advertiser calling for nominations for the Board of Directors. As it turned out, two members nominated.

Given that there was only one vacancy at the time, the PAFC used a time-honoured democratic process (i.e. an election) to determine which member would be elected to the Board. On 15 December the election was held, with all PAFC members entitled to vote.

No SANFL vetting process, just a straightforward club based philospohy of allowing members to have a say in the running of their club.
The same process was also carried out at the start of the 2005 season to determine your captain. It was a landslide victory to Primus 41 votes to Tredders 1. It has sent a clear message (to this day) that Tredders is a tool and is hated by his teammates.
 
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But rank-and-file members CAN'T nominate for the board of the Adelaide Crows. Well i suppose they can try but it won't get them far. All nominations are subject to SANFL approval, a clause put in place with the very purpose of stopping rank-and-file members from ever nominating.

"uncompromising, inclusive, proud".
If that's true, that really is a laugh and a half.

The Cow members are just slaves who can never become or better their own masters.

Just made my day and truth be told, does it really surprise.

The team for all South Australians. lol.
 
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The same process was also carried out at the start of the 2005 season to determine your captain. It was a landslide victory to Primus 41 votes to Tredders 1. It has sent a clear message (to this day) that Tredders is a tool and is hated by his teammates.
A similar process was used to determine our captain for the 2005. The incumbent, Matthew Primus, won which surprised no one considering he had held the reigns with high distinction for a number of years.
 

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If that's true, that really is a laugh and a half.

The Cow members are just slaves who can never become or better their own masters.

Just made my day and truth be told, does it really surprise.

The team for all South Australians. lol.
Yes we can, as a member I have been given the opportunity to vote for board members over the years. Have a look at the Asic Webiste, The Port Adelaide Football Club (AFL) Ltd was established in 1996 and is bound by Corporations law. This makes you a Corporation. Accept it and move on!!
 

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Hypothetical - 2015 - a third SA team enters the AFL made up of a Norwood / Sturt / Glenelg partnership - where would that leave the 60% of Crows supporters who originally supported those teams? Confused I would say.
PFG you set your self up nicely so often, you are failry easy to pick off.

Another Hypothetical. In 2015 due to have won almost 40 premierships in the SANFL and being the most successful SANFL team the Port Magpies decide to enter the AFL. What happens to Port Power supporters loyalties then?
 

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Yes we can, as a member I have been given the opportunity to vote for board members over the years. Have a look at the Asic Webiste, The Port Adelaide Football Club (AFL) Ltd was established in 1996 and is bound by Corporations law. This makes you a Corporation. Accept it and move on!!
lol, and the way Ports member ship is going, all their members will be on the board by 2020 :)
 

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PFG you set your self up nicely so often, you are failry easy to pick off.

Another Hypothetical. In 2015 due to have won almost 40 premierships in the SANFL and being the most successful SANFL team the Port Magpies decide to enter the AFL. What happens to Port Power supporters loyalties then?
I am assuming that the new club can't call themselves Port Adelaide, nor can they call themselves the Magpies, nor wear black and white.

So Port Adelaide Power supporters will continue to follow the same club that they have since 1870 in the SANFL and since 1997 in the AFL - the Port Adelaide Football Club.

Yes, set myself up so nicely. :)

Now that I have answered your question first, how about you answer my initial question?
 
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