Ottens or Troy Simmonds?

[Croat tiger]

Now you are just being stupid.

you mean like your comment, bucket of spit and saliva.Lmfao!!!!!

 

[jackson_rules]

That would be my main criticism of Simmonds. The fact that he doesn't hit contests.

I reckon both players lack heart. Simmonds provides value as a back-up Ruckman but I'd still take Ottens, even if he hasn't had a kick since 2001.

that is where you are wrong my freind.. simmonds didnt have the best of years because he played mainly up forward however he got to every contest was always at the front na either marked it or brought it to ground where the rest is the small fellas job.. then later in the season dominated when fulltime in the ruck.. i remember him giving spider a good run for his money and after taping the ball was very good at getting his own ball in the middle

 

[CursoryMercenary]

Oh well, we may as well put some statistical evidence into this one.


Season 2005.

Ottens averaged 11.27 disposals a game,
Simmonds averaged 13.23 disposals a game.

Ottens had 172 hitouts at an average of 11.45 per game
Simmonds had 304 hitouts at an average of 13.81 per game.

Ottens took 69 marks at an average of 4.6 per game
Simmonds took 123 marks at an average of 5.6 per game

Ottens $450,000 per year at an average of $30,000 per game
Simmonds $200,000 per year at an average of $9,090 per game

Ottens is a hack
Simmonds is a no good deer ********

 

[melbournemartin]

while neither are stars, Ottens has atleast amounted to something. Simmonds = wasted potential

 

[Oh Furious One]

Give me Troy Simmonds please.

 

[Ghost of Punt Road]

once Wallace moved Simmonds to full time ruck at the end of the year, Simmonds was very VERY good.

 

[Freo Big Fella]

Hmmm. Rubbertits v Crackthe**********s. Neither I think.

 

[Rodgerramjet]

Has to be Simmonds for mine.
Frawley utterly destroyed Ottens. Will never be the player he could have been. Good on ya spud, and ya such a nice bloke to we're told.

 

[sabre_ac]

Has to be Simmonds for mine.
Frawley utterly destroyed Ottens. Will never be the player he could have been. Good on ya spud, and ya such a nice bloke to we're told.

I dont understand this comment...I mean champions perform regardless of the team around them or their coaches.

Take one look at Pav

 

[Bentleigh]

Ottens is a hack

A hack that Woosha would give his left nut to have in the at WCE...

 

[chapmanmagic35]

A hack that Woosha would give his left nut to have in the at WCE...

Exactly!

 

[Doggies 06]

Gee this poll says a lot about Ottens..........doesn't it?


He has been made out to be the answer to the Catters prayers by their supporters.


But Simmonds only trails by only 4 votes in the poll......:

 

[chapmanmagic35]

Gee this poll says a lot about Ottens..........doesn't it?


He has been made out to be the answer to the Catters prayers by their supporters.


But Simmonds only trails by only 4 votes in the poll......:

The media have over beaten the Ottens situation up so much that when ever he plays a bad game, they're onto him.

Hence, the oblivious general public don't really know the full story.

 

[Bentleigh]

Gee this poll says a lot about Ottens..........doesn't it?


He has been made out to be the answer to the Catters prayers by their supporters.


But Simmonds only trails by only 4 votes in the poll......:

Is Simmonds really that bad a player?

• 22 games
• 14 touches per game
• 6 marks
• 1 goal
• 1 point
• 1.5 tackles
• 14 hitouts

Decent I would have thought for a ruckman/3rd tall

The media have over beaten the Ottens situation up so much that when ever he plays a bad game, they're onto him.

Hence, the oblivious general public don't really know the full story.

Beaten up? You traded a first round pick and a gun midfeilder who a bloke who was sposed to be the 'missing peice'.

 

[catempire]

Beaten up? You traded a first round pick and a gun midfeilder who a bloke who was sposed to be the 'missing peice'.

That's where the beatup occurs - show me where anyone within the club ever said he was the missing piece. It's the media that has decided that.

 

[Bentleigh]

That's where the beatup occurs - show me where anyone within the club ever said he was the missing piece. It's the media that has decided that.

Who gives a toss what the club says?

Its clear to everyone that Geelong is a good side with one of the best backlines, a young and impressive on ball group and some great mid/small forwards.

A Jono Brown type would take you from the 6 or so sides to a real contender.

Ottens was seen by many to be this KPP forward answer. The club wouldn't have traded so much 2 first round picks unless they expected him to be a key part of the side make up.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Of the two I'd take Ottens, but I'd take Lucas above both.

 

[chapmanmagic35]

Who gives a toss what the club says?

Its clear to everyone that Geelong is a good side with one of the best backlines, a young and impressive on ball group and some great mid/small forwards.

A Jono Brown type would take you from the 6 or so sides to a real contender.

Ottens was seen by many to be this KPP forward answer. The club wouldn't have traded so much 2 first round picks unless they expected him to be a key part of the side make up.

That's where you're wrong.

Thompson said frfom teh outset that he was a ruckmna/forward, who he expected to kick 35-40 goals and release the pressure off King.

Ottens was well on the way to doing that until he became injured.

 

[catempire]

Who gives a toss what the club says?

I certainly do. Infinitely more than I care about what the self confessed know-alls on an internet forum say, or the media for that matter.

 

[Catnip]

Is Simmonds really that bad a player?

• 22 games
• 14 touches per game
• 6 marks
• 1 goal
• 1 point
• 1.5 tackles
• 14 hitouts

Decent I would have thought for a ruckman/3rd tall



Beaten up? You traded a first round pick and a gun midfeilder who a bloke who was sposed to be the 'missing peice'.

LMAO. Now Beamer's a 'gun midfielder'. Not yet he aint. The Cats had a zillion injuries, including Ottens and still finished above Richmond (One out all out) and Melbourne who snaffled our 'gun midfielder' who looked longingly at his former team mates after that first final last year.

 

[Super Demon]

Well as you said .......Beamer is well on his way to being "Gun Midfielder" for the Dee's

However.........Moloney loves the Dee's and is very happy at the club.

As for the part that he looked longingly at his former team mates............Pffft


He must have enjoyed watching the catters great effort the following week.

"Snatching Defeat from the Jaws of Victory"

 

[catempire]

Well as you said .......Beamer is well on his way to being "Gun Midfielder" for the Dee's

However.........Moloney loves the Dee's and is very happy at the club.

As for the part that he looked longingly at his former team mates............Pffft


He must have enjoyed watching the catters great effort the following week.

"Snatching Defeat from the Jaws of Victory"

3 September 2005

GEELONG: 5.4, 12.5, 16.8, 18.8 (116)
MELBOURNE: 2.3, 6.4, 6.6, 9.7 (61)

How'd ya like them apples?

 

[Super Demon]

3 September 2005

GEELONG: 5.4, 12.5, 16.8, 18.8 (116)
MELBOURNE: 2.3, 6.4, 6.6, 9.7 (61)

How'd ya like them apples?

Yes....... you beat us that day!........you deserved to win

Now that that's out of the way


Did you win the Flag?

No

Neither did we


We played you 3 times in 2005

We beat you on 2 of those occasions during the 05 season.....wow that must have hurt!

How do you like these apples?

Friday April 8 ............Round 3

Melbourne 18.6.114 Defeated Geelong 8.18 66 MCG

Saturday August 13..........Round 20

Melbourne 14.16.100 Defeated Geelong 15.9.99 Skilled Stadium

 

[catempire]

Yes....... you beat us that day!........you deserved to win

Now that that's out of the way


Did you win the Flag?

No

Neither did we


We played you 3 times in 2005

We beat you on 2 of those occasions during the 05 season.....wow that must have hurt!

How do you like these apples?

Friday April 8 ............Round 3

Melbourne 18.6.114 Defeated Geelong 8.18 66 MCG

Saturday August 13..........Round 20

Melbourne 14.16.100 Defeated Geelong 15.9.99 Skilled Stadium

Yeah, shocking night that was! I felt sweet revenge when we belted you in the finals though, so I'm happy. We showed you up big time on the big stage in finals. Home and away counted for naught. So to give it to us for losing to Sydney is very rich.

 

[Super Demon]

Yeah, shocking night that was! I felt sweet revenge when we belted you in the finals though, so I'm happy. We showed you up big time on the big stage in finals. Home and away counted for naught. So to give it to us for losing to Sydney is very rich.

Roll on season 2006