Prediction Our Chances in the 2019 finals

[Braybrook Son]

Our midfield and forward line of the last 11 games is better than 2016, current backline is a big worry. We will have to rely on Crozier, Duryea, Wood, Young and Cordy to play their best to win finals

 

[Braybrook Son]

Whilst I don't want to read too much into this, can anyone tell me if a team has ever lost to the wooden spooners during the season and then gone on to win the flag?

Mate that is a pointless stat. What does it matter? Seriously

 

[ringa5]

We don't need to fear any team in the finals.
Under Beveridge we have belief.
And the Bont ,Mccrae ,Dunkley and English(not for hitouts )
Form the best 4 midfield combination in the finals.
Don't know if our Key position backs can stand up.Otherwise we have just as much chance as anyone.

 

[Bulldog Brent]

Whilst I don't want to read too much into this, can anyone tell me if a team has ever lost to the wooden spooners during the season and then gone on to win the flag?

I’m pretty sure the Blues lost to the bottom two teams midway through 95.

 

[Bont2Bruce]

I’m pretty sure the Blues lost to the bottom two teams midway through 95.

They did lose to St Kilda who were on the bottom in the middle of that year, but Fitzroy won the spoon and they never lost to them.

 

[mcgleereturns]

In 1916, Fitzroy were both wooden spooners AND premiers!


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[Libba39]

Mate that is a pointless stat. What does it matter? Seriously

Like I said...."I don't want to read too much into it"

 

[BEaston]

Off the top of my head I can certainly think of one. Fitzroy won 1 and lost 17 in 1963. The team they beat was Geelong, the premiers that year. Final score was Fitzroy 9-13 67 to Geelong 3-13 31 (WB-like inaccuracy).

They only had one star on their list, Kevin Murray, and he was away on interstate duties that weekend. Go figure.

 

[dogwatch]

It was the upset of the year, no maybe the decade, so it made headlines.
And besides I was an impressionable 11yo.

 

[Flags_In_The_Bag]

They did lose to St Kilda who were on the bottom in the middle of that year, but Fitzroy won the spoon and they never lost to them.

It was the Saints and the Swans they lost to.

 

[fronkalicious]

Just watched the replay of the geelong game.

We had roarke smith getting absolutely towelled up by Tom Stewart, and still won.

Bailey dale has replaced him.

We’re in good shape.

 

[dogspur]

Time to fire this up again.

 

[Optimistic Dog]

I was thinking which is dangerous how would us supporters confidence level be if 2016 did not happen. For me it would be we are playing well but it is impossible to win without the double chance. So maybe we one win. My expectations are higher than that because 2016 but know it still going be difficult and it is one week at a time.

The fact we won it must also effect the coaches and players mental approach. This should be a positive providing we are just as hungry.

Others thoughts?

 

[RedWhite&Blue]

Don’t think we’re going to win the flag.

In 2016 we won 15 games and had our spot in the finals assured half way through the season. Much better team that season too. This season our last 8-9 weeks have been like playing finals, the bye will help but can’t see us winning 4 on the trot again. I hope to beat GWS then Richmond in a SF. After that I’ll take a PF loss as I’ll be very satisfied.
Also, our defence is very iffy and defences are what win you flags. We can get heavily scored against at times.

‘Much better team in 2016’ you reckon?
I 100% disagree.
This team has a far better midfield and forwardline.

 

[RedWhite&Blue]

Bevo came out and said we can win it so I think we can win it. I have never seen Bevo so buoyant about our chances at any stage during his tenure as coach and he doesn’t bullsh1t. Always plays a straight bat and tells it like it is.

 

[Pugz89]

Bevo came out and said we can win it so I think we can win it. I have never seen Bevo so buoyant about our chances at any stage during his tenure as coach and he doesn’t bullsh1t. Always plays a straight bat and tells it like it is.

Even in 2015, I remember him saying after the elimination final that he thought we had more in us. Lo and behold, the following year we go all the way.

 

[Braybrook Son]

No doubt we have a better midfield and forward line than 2016, but our defense is shithouse and that’s what wins premierships!

 

[Libba39]

‘Much better team in 2016’ you reckon?
I 100% disagree.
This team has a far better midfield and forwardline.

Hmmm not sure about that.

In 2016 Dahl and Libba were in full flight in the midfield, Picken and Stringer up forward as well as Dickson at his peak. Down back we had the body strength and experience of Morris and Boyd, and Wood still in AA form.

This current team has the potential to be better. English in the ruck, Naughton already superior up forward but Schache not there yet.

The backline unit is definitely weaker. Morris added so much experience and flexibilty.

2016
Morris Hamling Johanissen
Wood Roberts M.Boyd

2019
Wood Young/Trengove Crozier
Johanissen Cordy Dureya

 

[bobs head soup]

When comparing this team to 2016 one thing that often gets overlooked is all the players in that list who were 18-22 year old and are all closer to their prime now.

Collectively, another 50-60 games into all of Bont, Macrae, Dunkley, Maclean, Cordy, Daniel, JJ, and whoever I haven't recalled off the top of my head, all yet to peak, counts for a lot.

 

[Optimistic Dog]

If Bevo wins the flag again from 7th will he be rated above Clarko as the best in the business.

 

[Cold Sober]

Dogs play the most exciting brand of football in the league, big big danger to all

 

[JTCWBFC]

No doubt we have a better midfield and forward line than 2016, but our defense is s**thouse and that’s what wins premierships!

Our talls aren't great but Wood, Suckling, Duryea, Crozier are a very strong unit around them.

Plus if we can keep up our increased scoring power at the other end, we have a bit more scope to concede a few goals.

 

[BulldogJake]

‘Much better team in 2016’ you reckon?
I 100% disagree.
This team has a far better midfield and forwardline.

Midfield was better in 2016. Defence was astronomically better in 2016.

Forward line slightly better this year, but forward doesn’t win you flags, defence does.

 

[Maverick Dog]

Fwd line better, midfield is best in the league so better but backline key positions worse. Pretty much the difference is Morris and Hamling. Small and medium defenders are better as I really rate Crozier. This team is more talented and skilful by a significant margin.

 

[Dogs Rule]

No doubt we have a better midfield and forward line than 2016, but our defense is s**thouse and that’s what wins premierships!

Dominate the midfield, concert up forward and the backline just has to be solid, because there’s limited supply.

Seems to be working of late.