Opinion Our Day in Kangaroo Court - The Real Alberton Faithful 1870-2012 versus Ken Bloody Hinkley 2013-2023 … 2025? and his Enablers

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Ken really is a campaigner. A self serving, dogmatic, pig-headed toad who ultimately couldn't care less about our club. His loyalty is based on his wage

and the security it provides him and his family. I'm sure Jordan's position as video analyst was advertised as per due process :tearsofjoy:.

No chance it came about when Ken had the club bluffed and Jordan was thrown in as steak knives. Nah ya gotta hand it to our Ken.

When it comes to balancing his responsibilities to his entitlements he comes out looking about as flash as a rat with a gold tooth and just as alluring.



The club should've told him between the presser and the Tredders interview go home and work on a response. Bring it to us and we can fine tune it.

But let's not blame the club here it was his cluster f*ck. What I do blame the club for is not sacking him after the tea he tossed over his shoulder

all those years ago. If ever there was a moment when Hinkley dropped his guard and showed us his true self that was it.



The pressure was on and he knew it. For once he found himself cornered by circumstance and his own words... judge us on finals or whatever.

He was on a hiding to nothing. The banged up Bullies missing players, others under a cloud, bounced around the country without a break, beaten by us

the last time we'd met(?) were up against a full list of rested players at home with a loud passionate crowd. Over to you Ken.

Well me and thousands of others are over you Ken. Your absence from public view tells me you know it, the club knows it and now we live in this weird

world where your gagged and hidden by your employer. We've been had and we know you know it. Inb4 the first time it comes up this season

your going to say "we need to move on and put that behind us".

About right too, when we finally see and hear from you this year there'll be a movement in my behind.
Bloody great post that. Well said.

Ken is hiding, and it comes across as fear to me. Fear of facing up to the facts, fear of facing up to his failure in that final, and at some point his words will wear off the players, and his so called magic with them will be gone. I'm expecting it at some point this season.

The moment will come in a big game, and his words and fear will paralyze the side. It happened in the preliminary final, I believe it's why Schofield left and at some point this upcoming season it will happen again. Pep Guardiola or Klopp, Hinkley is not. He is no magician or great tactical coach, it gets exposed over and over again I think this year he falls, hopefully for our sake it doesn't cost us a season.
 
If this is the case and CD has been baby-sitting Hinkley for 6 years why was Richardson complicit in the most recent Hinkley extension?
Richo and I know each other well, having worked closely together as from 2013 to get the China thing started in Hong Kong. Indeed it was Richo who first uttered the words China Strategy to me. At the time the strategy was restricted to the hosting of Chinese students at Port home games. I am delighted that he is now our CEO and very quietly admit that I had a tiny role to play in it, talking with him and CD about tactics in 2019-2020.

The moment that Richo was told he was CEO was during the 2020 prelim final vs. Richmond. He had very mixed feelings that night. After the 2021 prelim his feelings would be worse than mixed, they would be mashed.

He was told he was CEO three months before Koch gave Hinkley his third contract extension. Could Richo have headed it off? Doubtful.

Richo, I’m sure, is as aware as a CEO could be of burgeoning supporter / member dissatisfaction with Hinkley. He’s been aware of my opinion of Hinkley for some time, years, as far back as 2016. He didn’t want to hear it back then. He probably doesn’t want to hear it now, but it’s out there, it’s in the air, it’s beating in his eardrums … and he’s keeping quiet about it.

Everyone is keeping quiet. Too quiet. I wonder if it means something is going down at Alberton. Hinkley, hopefully.

Shhhh everyone. Listen hard. You might hear the splat! of the door hitting him on his fat flat arse.
 

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Rob Snowdon the man to help Port Adelaide bounce back from disappointment of 2018
… it is time for clear, outside eyes to examine what went wrong and bring a fresh outlook in time for next season.

Slightly edited, and corrected as far as the spelling of Snowdon’s name is concerned, this was the headline and sub-text to Warren Tredrea’s cry for help on behalf of our Club at the end of season 2018.

2018, as you’ll not very fondly recall and as written up in the OP, was the year in which Hinkley responded to his personal victory over Koch and being gifted with his second premature contract extension by collapsing from ‘superhero’ status in Koch’s TV-minded opinion at 11 and 4 to one-win-in-seven failure and tenth rung on the ladder at 12 and 10.

It was a foul performance by Hinkley, one that should’ve got him sacked then and there. But Koch was powerless, as per the OP, having at the end of 2017 again extended Hinkley under ridiculous circumstances and unprofessional and unworthy self-coercion.

Tredders, disgusted with his Club, was motivated to tell the football world what he thought at the time. Here is the link to his 2018 article, followed by a few again slightly edited excerpts from it.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/spor...8/news-story/9ff7d1034dd8a0336a3adbf439b6f5cb

Forensic reviews must take place, but talk of internal reviews that rubber stamp minor change is rubbish.
Fixing it quickly can only happen if fresh, outside eyes are brought in to offer wise, experienced counsel and given the authority to find out the facts of what actually went on.
Fresh eyes are needed at … Port to gain further understanding of what went wrong — and they must be from outside the club.
(One) senior, well respected, independent, experienced SA footy head is right now worth picking up the phone and asking if he’s prepared to help.
… former Port Adelaide and Sydney football manager Rob Snowdon; an experienced football person whose opinions are widely respected and listened to.


Here we are three more seasons of Hinkley later, heading into an imminent election by 2021 Club members to fill the chair in the board room left vacant by Wangas - who did not say boo once during his solitary three-year term, and whom I suspect was put up for election by Koch for cosmetic purposes and to remove George Fiacchi who in his multi-term tenure said boo too persistently and too loudly for Koch’s liking.

Tredders - whose uncomfortable interview with Hinkley a couple of days after his direct superior labelled the senior coach’s greatest and most recent failure an ‘abomination’ and will feature in any investigation into Hinkley’s unworthy longevity - today sees his prescient 2018 promotion of Rob Snowdon, as potential saviour of a football club in dire need of one, bearing fruit.

Rob Snowdon is at the top of the list of three candidates for elected board member of Port Adelaide Football Club, with the voting process to open on Tuesday, 1 February, 2022 … the first day of the Year of the Tiger - an auspicious day for making overdue changes.
 
Koch in my opinion was opointed to work with the club to negotiate sponsorship deals and to undertake the financial development/strategy of Port Adelaide moving forward which I'd argue he has achieved...China had potential but a once in a century pandemic couldn't be planed for.
When it comes to onfield nous he wouldn't know his arse from his elbow, that's why Hinkley has stolen a living from this club.
Apologies for delayed reply to this.

In August of 2012, Rucci had the following guesswork going:

No Cookies | The Advertiser

Port Adelaide may turn to old guard​

PORT Adelaide's boardroom is set for a retro-fit with former president Greg Boulton becoming the first former Power figure to seek a return to Alberton.

The old guard is set to deepen with former chief executive Brian Cunningham, former director Robert Hoey and former football operations chief Rob Snowdon all primed to seek office at the crisis-hit AFL club.

But with their campaign unlikely to be fulfilled until December's annual meeting, the full turning back of the clock at Alberton - to usher premiership mentor Mark Williams into the coaching vacancy - may not unfold.

Boulton yesterday exclusively told adelaidenow he had advised both Port and the SANFL of his willingness to return to the Power boardroom - that carries his name - four years after he resigned as president.

But Boulton insists he will not seek the presidency.

That seat, to be vacated by Brett Duncanson in December, is being kept open by the current board for Cunningham - against resistance from both the AFL and SANFL.

Hoey, who left the board at the end of 2007, is overseas until October but has privately declared his interest in returning to the club. Port's official response yesterday was: "It is not for us to speak of candidates."

Snowdon, the club's football chief from 1997-2002, has returned to Alberton in the past year assisting football operations chief Peter Rohde. He told The Advertiseryesterday he had an open mind on seeking a seat on the board.

He is understood to have already garnered support within a fractured board to replace Bruce Abernethy.

"I have thought about it," said Snowdon. "I am keen to help. I do not like where the place is - it needs new direction and there are good people who want to be involved."



None of the above, of course, happened. The AFL were determined in 2012 to sweep the Alberton board room clean, with Kevin Osborn - who is still with us as deputy chairman - wielding the AFL’s broom.

When Koch came in, I believe Renault were already in touch with the AFL who steered them in Koch’s direction to get his reign off to a flying start. It worked a treat.

Koch then set up his eastern advisory boards in Sydney and Melbourne. This was one of the cleverest early moves he made. Members of these boards were, I believe, involved in bringing Oak and KFC to the Club.

EnergyAustralia had nowt to to with Koch.

GFG and Gupta were obvious low-hanging fruit, a community-oriented target that Koch would’ve found hard to screw up. Gupta came in at a time when we were reduced to a single JMS and Oak was both of them, their logo both front and back of the playing jumper. This was KT’s lowest point.

China. Koch initially got interested because his daughter Sam was living in Hong Kong; married to a QS who was posted to HK, she became the regional manager of the family’s Pinstripe Media. Visits to Hong Kong opened Koch’s eyes to the vision of AFL being played in HK. Then he was taken to Macau by one of the casino groups and Macau became flavour of the month even though no suitable sizeable playing field existed there. The same applied to HK.

Our China Strategy indeed started in Koch’s imagination, and he provided the essential muscle at the board table for us to graduate into the China mainland promoting the short-format soccer-field variation of AFL that McLachlan later called AFLX.

But it took Gui to so unexpectedly arrive on the scene in late 2015 for the strategy to quickly develop into an annual full-scale match for premiership points in Shanghai.

Koch’s eastern advisory boards meet less frequently, I believe. And Koch himself, though the essential player for a time at the start of the China Strategy, and the weight that kept the rest of the board in check after 2014 when those such as Cardone (and Osborn) wanted to give China the flick, had less and less himself to do with the hands-on process that resulted in three matches at Jiangwan Stadium and the introduction of SAIC and their MG venture in Oz to the Club.

For an organisation to grow steadily, once one mountain has been scaled and the flag planted on the summit, the clue is to recruit others to ensure the flag stays fluttering in the sun on the summit, then send the mountain-climbers on a new mission to climb the next, bigger, peak, then the next peak, then the next …

Koch has not done this. He’s rested on his laurels.
 
Apologies for delayed reply to this.

In August of 2012, Rucci had the following guesswork going:

No Cookies | The Advertiser

Port Adelaide may turn to old guard​

PORT Adelaide's boardroom is set for a retro-fit with former president Greg Boulton becoming the first former Power figure to seek a return to Alberton.

The old guard is set to deepen with former chief executive Brian Cunningham, former director Robert Hoey and former football operations chief Rob Snowdon all primed to seek office at the crisis-hit AFL club.

But with their campaign unlikely to be fulfilled until December's annual meeting, the full turning back of the clock at Alberton - to usher premiership mentor Mark Williams into the coaching vacancy - may not unfold.

Boulton yesterday exclusively told adelaidenow he had advised both Port and the SANFL of his willingness to return to the Power boardroom - that carries his name - four years after he resigned as president.

But Boulton insists he will not seek the presidency.

That seat, to be vacated by Brett Duncanson in December, is being kept open by the current board for Cunningham - against resistance from both the AFL and SANFL.

Hoey, who left the board at the end of 2007, is overseas until October but has privately declared his interest in returning to the club. Port's official response yesterday was: "It is not for us to speak of candidates."

Snowdon, the club's football chief from 1997-2002, has returned to Alberton in the past year assisting football operations chief Peter Rohde. He told The Advertiseryesterday he had an open mind on seeking a seat on the board.

He is understood to have already garnered support within a fractured board to replace Bruce Abernethy.

"I have thought about it," said Snowdon. "I am keen to help. I do not like where the place is - it needs new direction and there are good people who want to be involved."



None of the above, of course, happened. The AFL were determined in 2012 to sweep the Alberton board room clean, with Kevin Osborn - who is still with us as deputy chairman - wielding the AFL’s broom.

When Koch came in, I believe Renault were already in touch with the AFL who steered them in Koch’s direction to get his reign off to a flying start. It worked a treat.

Koch then set up his eastern advisory boards in Sydney and Melbourne. This was one of the cleverest early moves he made. Members of these boards were, I believe, involved in bringing Oak and KFC to the Club.

EnergyAustralia had nowt to to with Koch.

GFG and Gupta were obvious low-hanging fruit, a community-oriented target that Koch would’ve found hard to screw up. Gupta came in at a time when we were reduced to a single JMS and Oak was both of them, their logo both front and back of the playing jumper. This was KT’s lowest point.

China. Koch initially got interested because his daughter Sam was living in Hong Kong; married to a QS who was posted to HK, she became the regional manager of the family’s Pinstripe Media. Visits to Hong Kong opened Koch’s eyes to the vision of AFL being played in HK. Then he was taken to Macau by one of the casino groups and Macau became flavour of the month even though no suitable sizeable playing field existed there. The same applied to HK.

Our China Strategy indeed started in Koch’s imagination, and he provided the essential muscle at the board table for us to graduate into the China mainland promoting the short-format soccer-field variation of AFL that McLachlan later called AFLX.

But it took Gui to so unexpectedly arrive on the scene in late 2015 for the strategy to quickly develop into an annual full-scale match for premiership points in Shanghai.

Koch’s eastern advisory boards meet less frequently, I believe. And Koch himself, though the essential player for a time at the start of the China Strategy, and the weight that kept the rest of the board in check after 2014 when those such as Cardone (and Osborn) wanted to give China the flick, had less and less himself to do with the hands-on process that resulted in three matches at Jiangwan Stadium and the introduction of SAIC and their MG venture in Oz to the Club.

For an organisation to grow steadily, once one mountain has been scaled and the flag planted on the summit, the clue is to recruit others to ensure the flag stays fluttering in the sun on the summit, then send the mountain-climbers on a new mission to climb the next, bigger, peak, then the next peak, then the next …

Koch has not done this. He’s rested on his laurels.

Great post, thank you, oh what I'd give to get the likes of Brian Cunningham back to the club.
 
Apologies for delayed reply to this.

In August of 2012, Rucci had the following guesswork going:

No Cookies | The Advertiser

Port Adelaide may turn to old guard​

PORT Adelaide's boardroom is set for a retro-fit with former president Greg Boulton becoming the first former Power figure to seek a return to Alberton.

The old guard is set to deepen with former chief executive Brian Cunningham, former director Robert Hoey and former football operations chief Rob Snowdon all primed to seek office at the crisis-hit AFL club.

But with their campaign unlikely to be fulfilled until December's annual meeting, the full turning back of the clock at Alberton - to usher premiership mentor Mark Williams into the coaching vacancy - may not unfold.

Boulton yesterday exclusively told adelaidenow he had advised both Port and the SANFL of his willingness to return to the Power boardroom - that carries his name - four years after he resigned as president.

But Boulton insists he will not seek the presidency.

That seat, to be vacated by Brett Duncanson in December, is being kept open by the current board for Cunningham - against resistance from both the AFL and SANFL.

Hoey, who left the board at the end of 2007, is overseas until October but has privately declared his interest in returning to the club. Port's official response yesterday was: "It is not for us to speak of candidates."

Snowdon, the club's football chief from 1997-2002, has returned to Alberton in the past year assisting football operations chief Peter Rohde. He told The Advertiseryesterday he had an open mind on seeking a seat on the board.

He is understood to have already garnered support within a fractured board to replace Bruce Abernethy.

"I have thought about it," said Snowdon. "I am keen to help. I do not like where the place is - it needs new direction and there are good people who want to be involved."



None of the above, of course, happened. The AFL were determined in 2012 to sweep the Alberton board room clean, with Kevin Osborn - who is still with us as deputy chairman - wielding the AFL’s broom.

When Koch came in, I believe Renault were already in touch with the AFL who steered them in Koch’s direction to get his reign off to a flying start. It worked a treat.

Koch then set up his eastern advisory boards in Sydney and Melbourne. This was one of the cleverest early moves he made. Members of these boards were, I believe, involved in bringing Oak and KFC to the Club.

EnergyAustralia had nowt to to with Koch.

GFG and Gupta were obvious low-hanging fruit, a community-oriented target that Koch would’ve found hard to screw up. Gupta came in at a time when we were reduced to a single JMS and Oak was both of them, their logo both front and back of the playing jumper. This was KT’s lowest point.

China. Koch initially got interested because his daughter Sam was living in Hong Kong; married to a QS who was posted to HK, she became the regional manager of the family’s Pinstripe Media. Visits to Hong Kong opened Koch’s eyes to the vision of AFL being played in HK. Then he was taken to Macau by one of the casino groups and Macau became flavour of the month even though no suitable sizeable playing field existed there. The same applied to HK.

Our China Strategy indeed started in Koch’s imagination, and he provided the essential muscle at the board table for us to graduate into the China mainland promoting the short-format soccer-field variation of AFL that McLachlan later called AFLX.

But it took Gui to so unexpectedly arrive on the scene in late 2015 for the strategy to quickly develop into an annual full-scale match for premiership points in Shanghai.

Koch’s eastern advisory boards meet less frequently, I believe. And Koch himself, though the essential player for a time at the start of the China Strategy, and the weight that kept the rest of the board in check after 2014 when those such as Cardone (and Osborn) wanted to give China the flick, had less and less himself to do with the hands-on process that resulted in three matches at Jiangwan Stadium and the introduction of SAIC and their MG venture in Oz to the Club.

For an organisation to grow steadily, once one mountain has been scaled and the flag planted on the summit, the clue is to recruit others to ensure the flag stays fluttering in the sun on the summit, then send the mountain-climbers on a new mission to climb the next, bigger, peak, then the next peak, then the next …

Koch has not done this. He’s rested on his laurels.
Very appreciative of your insights and experience from inner sanctum. Thank you
 
Very appreciative of your insights and experience from inner sanctum. Thank you
Thank you very much. Today being Lunar New Year’s Day, it is the day on which I must thank all those who say nice things to me. I just made that up.

Being the first day of the Year of the Tiger, it is the day on which to set free all posters I have on ignore and eat ‘em all up. I just made that up, too.

On Lunar New Year’s Day everyone ages another year. This is Chinese tradition. I celebrated my 75th birthday by the non-Chinese calendar two days ago, so that means I have had two birthdays in forty-eight hours. My last two-day year has gone by in the blink of an eye.

We have a three-day holiday break, starting today. I am going to spend it getting older still, sitting in my reclining chair in my lounge-room corner watching the grandchildren, or sitting in Pro Drinkers Corner downstairs watching the rest of Hong Kong go by, checking BigFooty, and not much else. It’s called advanced retirement.

I will be investing my three days of people-watching and rumination deciding who to vote for. Do I cast my vote for the greyhound guy who says he goes for the Bars? Do I vote instead for the other candidate who seems keener than anything else on BBTM (Bring Back The Magpie)? Or do I vote for the semi-famous name at the top of the list of three who I deduce has been put forward by Tredders and is likely supported by Jack Cahill who worked closely with him in 1997 and 1998, our first two AFL years?

What do I really want? What sort of new board member do I really want to fill Gavin’s seat … which didn’t suffer much wear and tear from Gav as he seemed to be around not a lot, more often in the Essendon orbit than ours. That was not a productive move by whoever made it, coaxing Gav to put himself forward and attract the voters who voted for the face they knew and looked or thought no deeper. It has cost us three invaluable years. It has been said the meek shall inherit the earth. On their way to claiming their inheritance, though, they had better keep, or be kept, well clear of our little old blue-collar battlers’ board room.

And therein lies the crux of my deliberation. I am not going to vote for someone who emulates Gavin. I am not going to vote for someone whom I suspect is going to spend the next three years not being seen, let alone not being seen to be doing his job.

I am going to vote for the candidate I interpret will make an effort to stand up to Chairman Moi, to call him out when nobody else says boo. I am going to vote for the candidate I expect will not continue to keep Cos Cardone, Eddie McGuire’s CEO, an in-house secret when he is the most dangerous individual in the room apart from Koch.

And I will vote for the candidate whom I judge to have the best qualifications of the three to advise George Costanza, to work with him and give him second opinions on Ken Bloody Hinkley, uncompromised opinions, rather than no opinion at all as per current occupants of the board room.

I will vote for the candidate who I judge to be in the best position of the three to make the CEO’s task easier, more effective, to help him with decisions on Chasing Greatness, the football department, the miniscule media section, the commercial department, the entire Club.

I will vote for the candidate that I feel deep in my expanding gut is going to contribute physically, mentally and wholeheartedly to Port Adelaide winning a premiership whilst I am still here, looking on expectantly … impatiently.
 
Thank you very much. Today being Lunar New Year’s Day, it is the day on which I must thank all those who say nice things to me. I just made that up.

Being the first day of the Year of the Tiger, it is the day on which to set free all posters I have on ignore and eat ‘em all up. I just made that up, too.

On Lunar New Year’s Day everyone ages another year. This is Chinese tradition. I celebrated my 75th birthday by the non-Chinese calendar two days ago, so that means I have had two birthdays in forty-eight hours. My last two-day year has gone by in the blink of an eye.

We have a three-day holiday break, starting today. I am going to spend it getting older still, sitting in my reclining chair in my lounge-room corner watching the grandchildren, or sitting in Pro Drinkers Corner downstairs watching the rest of Hong Kong go by, checking BigFooty, and not much else. It’s called advanced retirement.

I will be investing my three days of people-watching and rumination deciding who to vote for. Do I cast my vote for the greyhound guy who says he goes for the Bars? Do I vote instead for the other candidate who seems keener than anything else on BBTM (Bring Back The Magpie)? Or do I vote for the semi-famous name at the top of the list of three who I deduce has been put forward by Tredders and is likely supported by Jack Cahill who worked closely with him in 1997 and 1998, our first two AFL years?

What do I really want? What sort of new board member do I really want to fill Gavin’s seat … which didn’t suffer much wear and tear from Gav as he seemed to be around not a lot, more often in the Essendon orbit than ours. That was not a productive move by whoever made it, coaxing Gav to put himself forward and attract the voters who voted for the face they knew and looked or thought no deeper. It has cost us three invaluable years. It has been said the meek shall inherit the earth. On their way to claiming their inheritance, though, they had better keep, or be kept, well clear of our little old blue-collar battlers’ board room.

And therein lies the crux of my deliberation. I am not going to vote for someone who emulates Gavin. I am not going to vote for someone whom I suspect is going to spend the next three years not being seen, let alone not being seen to be doing his job.

I am going to vote for the candidate I interpret will make an effort to stand up to Chairman Moi, to call him out when nobody else says boo. I am going to vote for the candidate I expect will not continue to keep Cos Cardone, Eddie McGuire’s CEO, an in-house secret when he is the most dangerous individual in the room apart from Koch.

And I will vote for the candidate whom I judge to have the best qualifications of the three to advise George Costanza, to work with him and give him second opinions on Ken Bloody Hinkley, uncompromised opinions, rather than no opinion at all as per current occupants of the board room.

I will vote for the candidate who I judge to be in the best position of the three to make the CEO’s task easier, more effective, to help him with decisions on Chasing Greatness, the football department, the miniscule media section, the commercial department, the entire Club.

I will vote for the candidate that I feel deep in my expanding gut is going to contribute physically, mentally and wholeheartedly to Port Adelaide winning a premiership whilst I am still here, looking on expectantly … impatiently.

I want someone who in the words of Don Chipp will "keep the bastards honest".
Although Don, you probably meant make the bastards be honest, I doubt there was any keeping.

You can work out for yourself who the bastards are :)

Happy New Year good sir.
 
Just how soft is our president…. It’s where Scomo rocks up on Sunrise for an easy interview.
Morrison is on the campaign trail. He will be everywhere today and tomorrow to keep up his theme of mea culpa and how good is my government, he set out at the national press club yesterday. He was on AM this morning, first time in around 2 years.
 

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Morrison is on the campaign trail. He will be everywhere today and tomorrow to keep up his theme of mea culpa and how good is my government, he set out at the national press club yesterday. He was on AM this morning, first time in around 2 years.
Gladys has a hard time 'recollecting' things.
 
I haven’t posted much, if at all, on this thread before but just wanted to comment. I have no problem with robust discussion about Ken Hinkley and other aspects of the running of our club, but some of the posts in this thread read more like a personal vendetta against Ken and David Koch. Those who agree with the posts are ”mates” while anyone who is critical of the posts gets a condescending response and is put on ignore. If I get a similar response, so be it, but I just find some of the comments in this thread a bit ordinary.
 
I haven’t posted much, if at all, on this thread before but just wanted to comment. I have no problem with robust discussion about Ken Hinkley and other aspects of the running of our club, but some of the posts in this thread read more like a personal vendetta against Ken and David Koch. Those who agree with the posts are ”mates” while anyone who is critical of the posts gets a condescending response and is put on ignore. If I get a similar response, so be it, but I just find some of the comments in this thread a bit ordinary.

Fair enough and i'll put my hand up for personal attacks but here's the thing. He's on hundreds of thousands of dollars a year and has been for years

and we haven't drunk from the well. There's nothing more we can give him and I fear there's nothing more he can give us. No GF after 9yrs

invites scrutiny. Big dollars invites brutal scrutiny. He palms us off as the 10%, tough comp, some-ones gotta lose. We watch a man watching our

games with rarely a phone in his hand and never down on the bench. I mean sheesh I can do that. He invited the pass mark "judge us in finals"

We were never in the PF game. It was over in minutes, we didn't give a yelp and Ken looked on speechless and clueless.

His after game presser was a disgrace. Challenged the following week Tredders says 2 finals wins in 7yrs what more do you need?


I get personal because my anger matches his wage. It matches the 9yrs he's been on very good coin and delivered what? A competitive team

some years and an also ran in others. Never good enough or smart enough to hold up the cup. 9yrs and we haven't even made the big dance.

2015/16/17/18/19 a 5yr lead up to a season we lose a PF to Richmond with everything in our favour with a final qtr melt down. A year later we get

served up last yrs PF. If that's not enough to lose your rag you've got more patience than I have.


When I feel nothing i'll know Ken has beaten me. Right now i'm filthy on him because I still care. I'm not gunna let him suck the guts out of

my passion for Port. Ken made it very clear in the aa interview he's up for the fight to keep his job. Crowie saying "I can see it in your eyes Ken".

Well i'm up for the fight to see him out the door. My membership says i've paid for the right to judge him publicly.

This year my position is clear. GF or out the door.
 
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Fair enough and i'll put my hand up for personal attacks but here's the thing. He's on hundreds of thousands of dollars a year and has been for years

and we haven't drunk from the well. There's nothing more we can give him and I fear there's nothing more he can give us. No GF after 9yrs

invites scrutiny. Big dollars invites brutal scrutiny. He palms us off as the 10%, tough comp, some-ones gotta lose. We watch a man watching our

games with rarely a phone in his hand and never down on the bench. I mean sheesh I can do that. He invited the pass mark "judge us in finals"

We were never in the PF game. It was over in minutes, we didn't give a yelp and Ken looked on speechless and clueless.

His after game presser was a disgrace. Challenged the following week Tredders says 2 finals wins in 7yrs what more do you need?


I get personal because my anger matches his wage. It matches the 9yrs he's been on very good coin and delivered what? A competitive team

some years and an also ran in others. Never good enough or smart enough to hold up the cup. 9yrs and we haven't even made the big dance.

2015/16/17/18/19 a 5yr lead up to a season we lose a PF to Richmond with everything in our favour with a final qtr melt down. A year later we get

served up last yrs PF. If that's not enough to lose your rag you've got more patience than I have.


When I feel nothing i'll know Ken has beaten me. Right now i'm filthy on him because I still care. I'm not gunna let him suck the guts out of

my passion for Port. Ken made it very clear in the aa interview he's up for the fight to keep his job. Crowie saying "I can see it in your eyes Ken".

Well i'm up for the fight to see him out the door. My membership says i've paid for the right to judge him publicly.

This year my position is clear. GF or out the door.
I absolutely agree with every point you make and with the way you have expressed how you feel, and I should say that none of my comments were aimed at posts such as yours. What prompted me to post were comments that went beyond anything football and coaching related and were just personally derogatory and, just my opinion, a bit borderline.

It will be interesting to see what this season brings, but I agree that if we don't go the next step then we really can't continue on with Ken in the coaches box.
 
I haven’t posted much, if at all, on this thread before but just wanted to comment. I have no problem with robust discussion about Ken Hinkley and other aspects of the running of our club, but some of the posts in this thread read more like a personal vendetta against Ken and David Koch. Those who agree with the posts are ”mates” while anyone who is critical of the posts gets a condescending response and is put on ignore. If I get a similar response, so be it, but I just find some of the comments in this thread a bit ordinary.
People are fed up with Hinkley and the status quo, as well put by the post responding to yours, and I believe Koch is well past his use by date. I don't think I'm the only one who believes it either.

If anything I've said comes across as a personal vendetta and that's how it's interpreted so be it, it's my opinion on the club and the hierarchy.

Not everyone has to agree with it, and I won't put someone on ignore cause they disagree me. What's the point of that on a online forum, that's half the beauty of the idea is the wide variety of opinions.

Everyone wants what is best for the club, be it is those who are fed up, even the clan who agree with everything the club does.
 
I absolutely agree with every point you make and with the way you have expressed how you feel, and I should say that none of my comments were aimed at posts such as yours. What prompted me to post were comments that went beyond anything football and coaching related and were just personally derogatory and, just my opinion, a bit borderline.

It will be interesting to see what this season brings, but I agree that if we don't go the next step then we really can't continue on with Ken in the coaches box.
No one will or should attack your post Janey, you have as much right to an opinion as them. I think,as in all things, the closer you are to the centre, the more you are affected negatively if something isnt right. And then when the problem is pushed aside, ignored, and covered up, with you being made to appear the negative agitator, the natural reaction is to hit back.

IMO this thread is a strong & direct prod at the club by people who love the club, and want the issues confronted, and corrected. Is what is being posted here clearly erroneous? Well if it is, it will wilt and die under the weight of truth. Is it a bit over the top? Possibly, but if it is correct & gets people talking, and the talk then ultimate leads to action to right the ship, then I am for it.

Golden opportunities have been p!ssed away the last two years, while two over-inflated egos rule supreme!

This cant go on. We have to have change! We cant vote them out - they have seen to that. How else do we agitate for action?
 
I haven’t posted much, if at all, on this thread before but just wanted to comment. I have no problem with robust discussion about Ken Hinkley and other aspects of the running of our club, but some of the posts in this thread read more like a personal vendetta against Ken and David Koch. Those who agree with the posts are ”mates” while anyone who is critical of the posts gets a condescending response and is put on ignore. If I get a similar response, so be it, but I just find some of the comments in this thread a bit ordinary.
Where do you sit on low quality memes
 
People are fed up with Hinkley and the status quo, as well put by the post responding to yours, and I believe Koch is well past his use by date. I don't think I'm the only one who believes it either.

If anything I've said comes across as a personal vendetta and that's how it's interpreted so be it, it's my opinion on the club and the hierarchy.

Not everyone has to agree with it, and I won't put someone on ignore cause they disagree me. What's the point of that on a online forum, that's half the beauty of the idea is the wide variety of opinions.

Everyone wants what is best for the club, be it is those who are fed up, even the clan who agree with everything the club does.
No one will or should attack your post Janey, you have as much right to an opinion as them. I think,as in all things, the closer you are to the centre, the more you are affected negatively if something isnt right. And then when the problem is pushed aside, ignored, and covered up, with you being made to appear the negative agitator, the natural reaction is to hit back.

IMO this thread is a strong & direct prod at the club by people who love the club, and want the issues confronted, and corrected. Is what is being posted here clearly erroneous? Well if it is, it will wilt and die under the weight of truth. Is it a bit over the top? Possibly, but if it is correct & gets people talking, and the talk then ultimate leads to action to right the ship, then I am for it.

Golden opportunities have been p!ssed away the last two years, while two over-inflated egos rule supreme!

This cant go on. We have to have change! We cant vote them out - they have seen to that. How else do we agitate for action?
Hi guys,
Really just want to make it clear that I don't disagree at all with the stance that everyone is taking with regard to the situation with the current coach and some of the decisions made by those running the club, I agree wholeheartedly that we need change and that it, so far, has been much too long in coming. Neither am I taking issue with the way most of us are posting about that dissatisfaction. My only criticism was with some posts that I thought were a bit close to the bone with the personal comments made about some of the club personel and their family members and that seemed more intent on that than having their say about what is happening with our club.
I don't mind at all that some don't agree with my opinion and I definitely don't feel under attack. Trust me, I've been on this board long enough to see what a real s**t-fight looks like ;). Anyway, go your hardest, and lets hope we have much more reason for optimism before too long.
 
I haven’t posted much, if at all, on this thread before but just wanted to comment. I have no problem with robust discussion about Ken Hinkley and other aspects of the running of our club, but some of the posts in this thread read more like a personal vendetta against Ken and David Koch. Those who agree with the posts are ”mates” while anyone who is critical of the posts gets a condescending response and is put on ignore. If I get a similar response, so be it, but I just find some of the comments in this thread a bit ordinary.
Lockhart road got the sack
lockhart road wants to get back
lockhart road plays to the mob
lockhart road ………..
Hi guys,
Really just want to make it clear that I don't disagree at all with the stance that everyone is taking with regard to the situation with the current coach and some of the decisions made by those running the club, I agree wholeheartedly that we need change and that it, so far, has been much too long in coming. Neither am I taking issue with the way most of us are posting about that dissatisfaction. My only criticism was with some posts that I thought were a bit close to the bone with the personal comments made about some of the club personel and their family members and that seemed more intent on that than having their say about what is happening with our club.
I don't mind at all that some don't agree with my opinion and I definitely don't feel under attack. Trust me, I've been on this board long enough to see what a real sh*t-fight looks like ;). Anyway, go your hardest, and lets hope we have much more reason for optimism before too long.
Everyone is not true, but you make a number of points in a very conciliatory way.
Firstly the naming of family members should have been stomped on by the moderators years ago. No credit to them for their negligence.
How you can attack an individual for earning a living-is beyond me. No credit to those who go to that low level
There is a wink wink nod nod attack on any viewpoint outside the mainstream.
That is enough of other examples.
A bottom line for me is that the repetition is boring and as a football forum is becoming uninteresting.
Janus was willing to dissect game plans, others give great analysis of draft and footy news etc., but having a poster repeat the same thing hundred of times on a thread is not….
 
Lockhart road got the sack
lockhart road wants to get back
lockhart road plays to the mob
lockhart road ………..

Everyone is not true, but you make a number of points in a very conciliatory way.
Firstly the naming of family members should have been stomped on by the moderators years ago. No credit to them for their negligence.
How you can attack an individual for earning a living-is beyond me. No credit to those who go to that low level
There is a wink wink nod nod attack on any viewpoint outside the mainstream.
That is enough of other examples.
A bottom line for me is that the repetition is boring and as a football forum is becoming uninteresting.
Janus was willing to dissect game plans, others give great analysis of draft and footy news etc., but having a poster repeat the same thing hundred of times on a thread is not….
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Lockhart road got the sack
lockhart road wants to get back
lockhart road plays to the mob
lockhart road ………..

Everyone is not true, but you make a number of points in a very conciliatory way.
Firstly the naming of family members should have been stomped on by the moderators years ago. No credit to them for their negligence.
How you can attack an individual for earning a living-is beyond me. No credit to those who go to that low level
There is a wink wink nod nod attack on any viewpoint outside the mainstream.
That is enough of other examples.
A bottom line for me is that the repetition is boring and as a football forum is becoming uninteresting.
Janus was willing to dissect game plans, others give great analysis of draft and footy news etc., but having a poster repeat the same thing hundred of times on a thread is not…

Lockhart road got the sack
lockhart road wants to get back
lockhart road plays to the mob
lockhart road ………..

Everyone is not true, but you make a number of points in a very conciliatory way.
Firstly the naming of family members should have been stomped on by the moderators years ago. No credit to them for their negligence.
How you can attack an individual for earning a living-is beyond me. No credit to those who go to that low level
There is a wink wink nod nod attack on any viewpoint outside the mainstream.
That is enough of other examples.
A bottom line for me is that the repetition is boring and as a football forum is becoming uninteresting.
Janus was willing to dissect game plans, others give great analysis of draft and footy news etc., but having a poster repeat the same thing hundred of times on a thread is not….
Awwww poor Ken.
He's just a boy, standing in front of a football team, asking them to love him.
 
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