Our next big recruiting target

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Originally posted by Stiffy_18
This Chad Gibson bloke, where is he from and what position does he play.
He plays for Norwood and other than his stats that all I know of him. Any Redleg fans have any info?
 

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And some people want to trade Andrew Mcleod Quality for Quality. If Macca has a **** year what are we gonna get for him Travis Johnstone from melb at best. So lets keep him and help him reinvigorate his form and then we will not have to worry about him coming back to burn us......for another 4 or so years
 

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#29
Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Keep dreaming. The only one that will get you quality is Goodwin.

Bassett won't get you a first round pick. Perrie and stenglein for Schammer?????? Are you for real??????:confused: There is no way in hell Freo would go for that. Thats like saying we are offered R. Shaw and Ben Johnson for Graham Johncock. Would you be happy if Pies offered us that for Stiffy?????? I don't think so.

No way a club would trade a top 40 pick for a player that has a ****ed up knee with no cure.

Mattner and Rutten would have no real trade value what so ever. Rutten might attract some mild interest but nothing worth considering.

Remember quality for quality NOT quantity for quality.
I wouldn't trade Goodwin or McLeod. I think that both will be better under a new coach and we would be mad to trade them.

Must agree with Stiffy. Why would Freo trade for Perrie? Where would he play for them? I suppose at least Connelly would be unlikely to play him in the backline. :D

Mattner was offered to everyone last year an got no interest. He should have been delisted.

There would be interest in Stinger from WA clubs at the right price - which is probably less than he is worth.
 

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#30
Originally posted by PrideOf
Forget getting a gun forward or this year's Cooney or trying to lure an injury-prone homesick South Australian.

Our next big signing should be Alan Stewart.

The bloke has worked some real magic down the road and they've got the cattle to be a force for a long time. He knows his onions.

I just hope that when Gary gets the arse in Round 19, Fantasia is given the bullet as well.
Could you give some details on why Alan Stewart must be our new messiah?
 

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#31
Originally posted by crows98
And some people want to trade Andrew Mcleod Quality for Quality. If Macca has a **** year what are we gonna get for him Travis Johnstone from melb at best. So lets keep him and help him reinvigorate his form and then we will not have to worry about him coming back to burn us......for another 4 or so years
Spot on,
Mcleod's trade value at the end of the year will be very low.
if he continues to have a poor season, and we are seen to be hocking him 2 things will happen.
1. he will be disenfranchised from the club, and may not wish to stay.
2. His stock will be on the floor, how do we say we beleive he is champion stock still when we are trying to get rid of him.

sell high, not low.
 

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Re: Re: Our next big recruiting target

Originally posted by Crow-mosone
Could you give some details on why Alan Stewart must be our new messiah?
He's saying that even though Port has lost quite a few solid players over the last few years, the list has been improving or at least keeping status quo. And he'd be right. Stewart as head recruiter, can take a lot of the credit.
 

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Re: Re: Re: Our next big recruiting target

Originally posted by Pred
He's saying that even though Port has lost quite a few solid players over the last few years, the list has been improving or at least keeping status quo. And he'd be right. Stewart as head recruiter, can take a lot of the credit.
What he said about what I said.

Port has managed to build a good side in a short space of time which has gun players, reliable veterans and a batch of young kids who are very, very talented. They've been able to top up their losses of name players as well as trade well for quality experienced players (Bishop, Montgomery, Cochrane). They fill immediate needs as well as future needs pretty well.

And they've got depth. Players from the lower spots on their list tend to be either good pinchhitters or emerging youngsters. Our lower spots are filled with blokes who this board regularly says should never play.

I know trading and drafting isn't a science but if you look at value for money, Port is way ahead of us (and a lot of others) in the past 4-5 years. That hurts to say but IMHO the club should be doing something about it.
 

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#34
Originally posted by Stiffy_18
I think there is no secret that we need a good young ruckman, a good KPP (who is eaqually goodt at either end) and some gun midfielders.
In otherwords we need everything.
 

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I don't think McLeod should be traded. If he continues to have a bad year, we wouldn't be offered enough in return for him, and if we did trade him he could regain form and burn us for the next 3-4 years. (As someone said, sorry can't remember who)

One player no one has mentioned yet is Brett Burton - does you guys think he would be worthy of a first round pick? I think he might - if Danny Jacobs is worth #6, Burton is too.

I don't think we can afford to trade any of Roo, Macca or Goodwin. Our "brilliant midfield" of two years ago is gone with Johnson and Bickley leaving, if any of these three go it will continue to go downhill, despite the emergence of Stiffy and Reilly.

One thing that does concern me is that we have so little to offer for early picks. The majority of us thought/think we have a good list, but with so many older players whose trade value is zip-shi-t-all, we don't have much to play with.

To me, we need a young fullback, like Maguire (Saints) or Harris (Dogs). Not that we should trade for them, we need to draft one.

Our forward line still should be okay - I still think Welsh is a good FF option is he ever actually gets played there, and Watts and Freddy are out future.
 

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Originally posted by McLeod23
One player no one has mentioned yet is Brett Burton - does you guys think he would be worthy of a first round pick? I think he might - if Danny Jacobs is worth #6, Burton is too.
He'd have an interesting initiation from Monty and Chad :D , but I wouldn't mind Port trading for Burton. He'd make a decent replacement for Schofield on a wing - not really needing him as a forward so much like the Crows, though him drifting forward occasionally would be handy. He's not a KPP though and he's 4th in your midfield behind Roo, McLeod and Goodwin. An early first round pick I think would be a bit much. Somewhere in the 10 - 15 range would be a decent expectation of what you could get for him.
 

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Would it be such a bad thing for the crows to come bottom this season and maybe next ... not only loss like the Robert Shaw days but loss like Carlton are now because the Adelaide Crows have so many non traditional football fans come to games because it is the place to be seen. this could compleatly build the club. The GF's gave us something special but sometimes pain can give us that fire in the belly to never go back there and for the true AFC fans to stand up and be counted. How many will drop of they who stay are loyal and true football fans and are willing to stick it out

thus allowing us to develop our own Adelaide Crows culture and identity for years to come

l dont say this to be critical of the AFC but to be constructive and to try and give my option on how the club can continue to grow and build some presence for years to come.....

Because l know threw rain hail or shine....good times and bad.....l will always pay my membership up and support the crows

No bandwagon fans need apply...Keep the faith

" go crows"
 

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#38
Originally posted by Andre
He'd have an interesting initiation from Monty and Chad :D , but I wouldn't mind Port trading for Burton. He'd make a decent replacement for Schofield on a wing - not really needing him as a forward so much like the Crows, though him drifting forward occasionally would be handy. He's not a KPP though and he's 4th in your midfield behind Roo, McLeod and Goodwin. An early first round pick I think would be a bit much. Somewhere in the 10 - 15 range would be a decent expectation of what you could get for him.
l agree...but didnt we give port pick number 8 (Shaw Rhen to the hawks ) for M Bode ....Who they picked up Shawn Burgoyne
 

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Originally posted by crows98
Would it be such a bad thing for the crows to come bottom this season and maybe next ... not only loss like the Robert Shaw days but loss like Carlton are now because the Adelaide Crows have so many non traditional football fans come to games because it is the place to be seen. this could compleatly build the club. The GF's gave us something special but sometimes pain can give us that fire in the belly to never go back there and for the true AFC fans to stand up and be counted. How many will drop of they who stay are loyal and true football fans and are willing to stick it out
Bandwagon supporters by defintion do not just disapear when the times are tough and stay gone forever with only the true supporters left. Bandwagon supporters will reemerge as the Crows reemerge as a powerhouse of the AFL. Thats the definition of bandwagoners.

Every club has bandwagoners and they are impossible to get rid of. Its all fine saying they will disapear when you are coming last but they will just reapear when you are winning again.

Tanking seasons is also a very poor idea. It gives the impression that failure or mediocrity is acceptable. Can only do more harm than good.
 

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Originally posted by crows98
l agree...but didnt we give port pick number 8 (Shaw Rhen to the hawks ) for M Bode ....Who they picked up Shawn Burgoyne
Not quite. We traded pick 12 to Port for Matthew Bode and pick 48. we used pick 48 on Matthew Smith as our 17 year old. Port used pick 12 on Junio Burger.
 

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#41
Originally posted by McLeod23
One player no one has mentioned yet is Brett Burton - does you guys think he would be worthy of a first round pick? I think he might - if Danny Jacobs is worth #6, Burton is too.
Wayne's World mentioned Burton in the other thread and I said no for a simple fact that we need him more that a few others. Burton is still in his mid 20s and to me he is played out of position on the wing. Yes he was fantastic there last year BUT he is of far greater value to us in the forward line kicking goals than he is on the wing. If played as a permanent forward Burton will kick you 50 goals a year. Half the time Birdman himself doesn't have a clue as to what he will do next. How will the opposition know.

One thing that has been obvious for years now is that Bombers players have been extremely overrated by other clubs. Maybe its because Sheeds builds them up and has some structure in place where he makes his duds look good. Late 1st round pick 10-15 is probably what we can expect for Birdman BUT as I said I wouldn't trade him. He will flourish under new coach when he is played as a forward.
 

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#42
Originally posted by Macca19
Bandwagon supporters by defintion do not just disapear when the times are tough and stay gone forever with only the true supporters left. Bandwagon supporters will reemerge as the Crows reemerge as a powerhouse of the AFL. Thats the definition of bandwagoners.

Every club has bandwagoners and they are impossible to get rid of. Its all fine saying they will disapear when you are coming last but they will just reapear when you are winning again.

Tanking seasons is also a very poor idea. It gives the impression that failure or mediocrity is acceptable. Can only do more harm than good.
l would never ever say for the club to go out there and lose on purpose but our stocks are down at the moment with talent coming threw a few good players. but like st kilda, Fremantle and before them collingwood. is it better to hit rock bottom and re build for a long term success than go like Hawthorn and richmond by finishing 7- 13 and getting that medioca draft pick. The days are gone where a melbourne club will do any interstate club a favour with who they trade ( danny jacobs for a top 10 pick) .
 

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if you want a player in the Chris Judd mould, awesome ball reading skills, great overhead, great pace, then draft this kid Josh Sampson from south adelaide....
 

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sorry for posting on your board so much, but Brent Reilly was a big roos fan! at the end of this year would you consider traing brent back to vic(to the roos) for a 1st round pick and what else would you want?
 

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Originally posted by Scottroo
sorry for posting on your board so much, but Brent Reilly was a big roos fan! at the end of this year would you consider traing brent back to vic(to the roos) for a 1st round pick and what else would you want?
Drew Petrie & Cory Jones for good measure! ;)
 

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Originally posted by Scottroo
sorry for posting on your board so much, but Brent Reilly was a big roos fan! at the end of this year would you consider traing brent back to vic(to the roos) for a 1st round pick and what else would you want?
Highly unlikely unless Radar wants to go home which at this stage is not the case. He is contracted until the end of 2005 so I think its safe to assume that he will stay put. He might finish his career at Adelaide as well.
 
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