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Huh?
I recall we tried once before and nobody wanted to come, nobody of note any way. No established respected coach wanted to come to Port, that's why SA teams tend to struggle, all the good coaches are interstate.

Avatar ? It's so off putting.
Different time - different board. These days, completely different story. In fact since then two Port Adelaide assistants have had senior gigs.

As for the avatar, if you don't get it - well...
 

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Different time - different board. These days, completely different story. In fact since then two Port Adelaide assistants have had senior gigs.

As for the avatar, if you don't get it - well...
Clarckson and Richardson, you are correct but where, back in Victoria not Adelaide.

Okay I get the Avatar thing, just hard to look at.
 

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Huh?
All I'm saying is that Adelaide should be a very attractive destination for an AFL coach. Great place to live, very good schools (free tuition, say no more), the media are marshmallows, both clubs have very slick boards and pay well, you get interstate media every second week and the players like being here. There are very few genuine negatives to coaching in Adelaide.
 

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All I'm saying is that Adelaide should be a very attractive destination for an AFL coach. Great place to live, very good schools (free tuition, say no more), the media are marshmallows, both clubs have very slick boards and pay well, you get interstate media every second week and the players like being here. There are very few genuine negatives to coaching in Adelaide.
I get what you mean but if they had a choice, Vic wins hands down, if it's their home state.
 

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One guy I would love to see get an opportunity but I don’t think he is the right fit for us is Brett Ratton always thought he was hard done by at Carlton and I believe he is assistant under Clarko at the moment or was anyway And we have seen what clarkos assistants have done at other clubs when they get an opportunity

But in reality we all know our next coach will be Michael Voss or Alan Richardson
 
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The version I heard about knocking back Chris Scott was he wanted to sack all the assistants and bring in his own crew. Port couldn't afford that so went with Primus.

Scott would have been as hamstrung as Primus when it came to the playing list and resources. We probably would have broken him then too. Now he would have much more autonomy.
 

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I think our next coach will be Monty. Ken will go next year, and Schofield will want more years as an assistant. I think the timing may just be out for Schofield.

Which is a big shame. He'll be our next clarkson
 

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Just out of interest what has Schofield down to warrant such support?

Not for or against, just actually wondering.
His record in the WAFL speaks for itself. And our midfield has been pretty good this year as well.
 

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Normally when you are on the outside you rate line coaches based on how players are performing.

Boak, Rockliff and SPP are in my top 3 in the POTY voting. Boak in the running for the Brownlow, Trengove for Magarey.

Peter Ladhams (under Brogan) has improved massively.

Our forward line is the shits.

Our backline is probably worse than last year.
 

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The version I heard about knocking back Chris Scott was he wanted to sack all the assistants and bring in his own crew. Port couldn't afford that so went with Primus.

Scott would have been as hamstrung as Primus when it came to the playing list and resources. We probably would have broken him then too. Now he would have much more autonomy.
2011 Port coaching gig was almost the definition of poisoned chalice

Wouldn't be surprised if Laidley's computer crashed from getting some sort of Skype virus
 

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Normally when you are on the outside you rate line coaches based on how players are performing.

Boak, Rockliff and SPP are in my top 3 in the POTY voting. Boak in the running for the Brownlow, Trengove for Magarey.

Peter Ladhams (under Brogan) has improved massively.

Our forward line is the shits.

Our backline is probably worse than last year.
Agree totally. CD was in his ear over 2 years ago. Let's hope head coach was/is in the discussion.
 
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Normally when you are on the outside you rate line coaches based on how players are performing.

Boak, Rockliff and SPP are in my top 3 in the POTY voting. Boak in the running for the Brownlow, Trengove for Magarey.

Peter Ladhams (under Brogan) has improved massively.

Our forward line is the shits.

Our backline is probably worse than last year.
He has runs on the board in an inferior league - so does Bassett. Plenty of VFL/SANFL/WAFL coaches don’t translate to higher success, same with line coaches.

The consistency of the midfield has been excellent, regularly matching contested possessions, clearances, one percenters, etc. Boak and Rocky have returned to past form from years gone by. Drew and Amon were initially in great form. Ryder and Lycett’s impact has been substantial. SANFL similar.

I would say the backline has been great considering it’s experience level. The forward line is achieving everything bar kicking goals. It’s locked the ball in brilliantly. Rarely do teams transition from back 50 to a shot on goal. We are creating chances but not capitalising. We also have no CHF, an young key forward, no Robbie Gray, etc, etc. Ebert has played well as a forward, Rozee has been good. To me this suggests our other line coaches are actually doing well also.

I’ve liked Schofield’s chats with the media and the rumour that he found Ken and the players all a bit chummy and gave honest feedback.

Just not sure there is much yet to say he will make the transition to head coach successfully. Or that Bassett, Voss, etc wouldn’t also be good.
 

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He has runs on the board in an inferior league - so does Bassett. Plenty of VFL/SANFL/WAFL coaches don’t translate to higher success, same with line coaches.

The consistency of the midfield has been excellent, regularly matching contested possessions, clearances, one percenters, etc. Boak and Rocky have returned to past form from years gone by. Drew and Amon were initially in great form. Ryder and Lycett’s impact has been substantial. SANFL similar.

I would say the backline has been great considering it’s experience level. The forward line is achieving everything bar kicking goals. It’s locked the ball in brilliantly. Rarely do teams transition from back 50 to a shot on goal. We are creating chances but not capitalising. We also have no CHF, an young key forward, no Robbie Gray, etc, etc. Ebert has played well as a forward, Rozee has been good. To me this suggests our other line coaches are actually doing well also.

I’ve liked Schofield’s chats with the media and the rumour that he found Ken and the players all a bit chummy and gave honest feedback.

Just not sure there is much yet to say he will make the transition to head coach successfully. Or that Bassett, Voss, etc wouldn’t also be good.
I know of Schofields success in the WAFL but unaware of his game style. I do know from seeing several Norwood games under Bassett that it's an awful brand of football to watch.
 
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Agree RossFC would be the worst style to watch, would be worse than ross lyon

Is montgomery a realistic chance? seems to always be overlooked but when he talks it makes sense.

Either way im happy to have Schoey or Monty take the reins and the sooner the better
 
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2011 Port coaching gig was almost the definition of poisoned chalice

Wouldn't be surprised if Laidley's computer crashed from getting some sort of Skype virus
Primus wasn't a senior coach but he had the most thankless job going. He made the hard decisions to push through young players and see how they coped. He put a few noses out of joint and broke a few long-standing friendships.

I'm glad he has made some sort of peace with the club.
 

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Normally when you are on the outside you rate line coaches based on how players are performing.

Boak, Rockliff and SPP are in my top 3 in the POTY voting. Boak in the running for the Brownlow, Trengove for Magarey.

Peter Ladhams (under Brogan) has improved massively.

Our forward line is the shits.

Our backline is probably worse than last year.
Backlines of teams are the area most affected by the new 6-6-6 rules. Our back line only looked so good under Bassett as it was overloaded. We still overload it, but can't at centre bounces, so we're playing more mids and there's that time for them to get back (if required).

Otherwise agreed that mid's and rucks are up, forwards are poor and Hinkley and Voss (as senior assistant), still go back to the short, shorter!, SHORTEST!!, bomb it in as not enough tall targets as option 1 whenever anything other than perfect circumstances occur.
 

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Promoting assistant coaches to senior coaches from within is very uncommon in AFL football. If you don't count the succession plans with Buckley, Cameron, Goodwin and Longmire, Primus is the only senior coach in the last 12 years to be promoted from within (and that was only because of our perilous financial position at the time). It's basically not even a thing these days for a failed coaching regime to produce a new senior coach from within itself.
 
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Promoting assistant coaches to senior coaches from within is very uncommon in AFL football. If you don't count the succession plans with Buckley, Cameron, Goodwin and Longmire, Primus is the only senior coach in the last 12 years to be promoted from within (and that was only because of our perilous financial position at the time). It's basically not even a thing these days for a failed coaching regime to produce a new senior coach from within itself.
You didn't get the memo about the Schofield succession plan?
 

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God I'm sick of this 'aww gee Primus wasn't a good coach but at least he pushed through the young blokes' narrative. Look at how many games the likes of Matt Thomas, Tom Logan, Brett Ebert and Paul Stewart were given during his tenure and then tell me more about all the young blokes he played.
 

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Promoting assistant coaches to senior coaches from within is very uncommon in AFL football. If you don't count the succession plans with Buckley, Cameron, Goodwin and Longmire, Primus is the only senior coach in the last 12 years to be promoted from within (and that was only because of our perilous financial position at the time). It's basically not even a thing these days for a failed coaching regime to produce a new senior coach from within itself.
That's a little contradictory though, isn't it? You could easily claim that Cameron and Goodwin in particular are key cases of promoting an assistant to senior coach from a failed coaching regime.

Buckley was the only real succession plan - ie where it was announced well in advance that he WOULD be next senior coach. That wasn't the case with Cameron, Longmire or Primus. There was strong talk about Goodwin taking over but that was never a formal announcement like with Buckley.
 
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