Quite possible. Looks like the ideal candidate to fill Shaun Marsh's shoes in the pecking order, but as with Marsh is competing with Khawaja who's taken to the Australian home season coming back round like a duck to water.
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Quite possible. Looks like the ideal candidate to fill Shaun Marsh's shoes in the pecking order, but as with Marsh is competing with Khawaja who's taken to the Australian home season coming back round like a duck to water.
One of the problems with the ListA Cup is that a lot of batsman score runs. Those few who don't can be ruled out, but the difference between scoring 120 or 150 with a smattering of 80s isn't that great.
While I don't think trying to pick the next World Cup squad now has any merit, and there is no rush to push players out - natural attrition will see turnover - those who do come in should be with a possible WC chance in mind. He'll be 34, which certainly isn't out of the question for a batsmen (especially with slower decks in mind) but might be pushing it for someone with experience before now.
As for Tests, he has to be among the openers with "score Shield runs and possibly". But there might be more than 12 potential openers with that against their name.
I was thinking about this during the last WC. I believe the carry over from the last three WC squads has been 6 players ea cycle.
I.e. 6 players from the 2011 squad were in the 2015 squad; and 6 players from the 2015 squad made it to 2019 - probably would've been 7 if Hazelwood wasn't injured.
These are the players (and their ages at the time of the WC) in our last squad:
Finch (32)
Warner (32)
Khawaja (32)
S.Marsh (35)
S.Smith (30)
Maxwell (30)
Stoinis (29)
Carey (27)
Coulter-Nile (31)
Cummins (26)
Starc (29)
Behrendorff (29)
K.Richardson (28)
Zampa (27)
Lyon (31)
I'd say Khawaja, S.Marsh, NCN and Lyon might've had their papers stamped already, and anyone over 30 (Maxwell's form and Smith's desire permitting) - including Warner and Finch - may be in trouble post the Champions Trophy in India 2021.
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A rough like-for-like younger squad might look something like this (ages as of last WC):
D.Short (28)
Heazlett (23)
B.McDermott (24)
Head (25)
A.Turner (26)
Bancroft (26)
M.Marsh (27)
Philippe (22)
A.Agar (25)
Hazelwood (28)
J.Richardson (22)
Meredith (23)
M.Kelly (24)
Stanlake (24)
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I'm not suggesting that these players be direct replacements, rather a guide to some of the players the ACB will transition into the ODI team over the next few years (keeping a core of 6-8 players from the last WC).
D.Short (28)
Heazlett (23)
B.McDermott (24)
Head (25)
A.Turner (26)
Bancroft (26)
M.Marsh (27)
Philippe (22)
A.Agar (25)
Hazelwood (28)
J.Richardson (22)
Meredith (23)
M.Kelly (24)
Stanlake (24)
legspinner
I'm not suggesting that these players be direct replacements, rather a guide to some of the players the ACB will transition into the ODI team over the next few years (keeping a core of 6-8 players from the last WC).
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Bancroft?
Good List A record / back-up 'keeper / WA bias.
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Jake Weatherald is more deserving for me.
Marnus just looks like he has the makings of been a really good One Day middle order bat. Hasn't had a poor Australian One Day Cup yet
2016 - 271 runs @ 45.16
2017 - 291 @ 48.50
2018 - Did not play
2019 so far - 277 @ 55.40
Busy at the crease, hits gaps, rotates the strike, runs between the wickets like a mad man and showed today he has the gears to up the tempo at the back end of the innings. Good signs.
2016 - 271 runs @ 45.16
2017 - 291 @ 48.50
2018 - Did not play
2019 so far - 277 @ 55.40
Busy at the crease, hits gaps, rotates the strike, runs between the wickets like a mad man and showed today he has the gears to up the tempo at the back end of the innings. Good signs.
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Not in the middle order. Can he 'keep?
eth-dog
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He's the best opener of the lot IMO and when you have Philippe, McDermott and Carey being around the mark do you really need anotherone?
I was being facetious with the 'keeper remark.
I've got Short, Heazlett and McDermott ahead of him as openers atm. I’d dare say the selectors do too. Plenty to play out over the next few years though.
I've got Short, Heazlett and McDermott ahead of him as openers atm. I’d dare say the selectors do too. Plenty to play out over the next few years though.
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As I posted earlier in the thread (not including today's games):
Weatherald is very underrated on here.
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Still a ways off but my squad for the India tour would be something like:
1. Finch
2. Warner
3. Smith
4. Labuschagne
5. Maxwell/Wade
6. Turner
7. Carey
8. Cummins (could be rested)
9. Starc
10. Wes Agar/Steketee/Meredith/Richardson (whoever performs best over the big bash i guess, but one of these guys should be played)
11. Zampa
12. Ashton Agar
13. Peter Handscomb
1. Finch
2. Warner
3. Smith
4. Labuschagne
5. Maxwell/Wade
6. Turner
7. Carey
8. Cummins (could be rested)
9. Starc
10. Wes Agar/Steketee/Meredith/Richardson (whoever performs best over the big bash i guess, but one of these guys should be played)
11. Zampa
12. Ashton Agar
13. Peter Handscomb
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Huge is true. Personally don't mind that call. Maxy definitely should spend some more time away from the top level to fully recover and mend his mind.
Stoinis, for me. isn't up to it anymore and we should be looking at MMarsh to replace him for the interim while casting our eye towards Green over the next couple of years.
1. Warner
2. Finch
3. Labuschagne
4. Smith
5. Carey
6. Turner
7. M Marsh
8. Cummins
9. Starc
10. J Richardson
11. Zampa
12. Wade
13. Coulter-Nile
14. Lyon
2. Finch
3. Labuschagne
4. Smith
5. Carey
6. Turner
7. M Marsh
8. Cummins
9. Starc
10. J Richardson
11. Zampa
12. Wade
13. Coulter-Nile
14. Lyon
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yep agree, thats our best XI of that squad of 14.
a few casualties from the world cup - s.marsh, khawaja, stoinis, maxwell, m.marsh, wade, lyon, coulter-nile, behrendorf, j.richardson
ins: labs, hazlewood, turner, agar, abbott
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Unless they are dropping Finch at some point - what role is Lab going to play?
Smith at 3 should be locked in. Lab isn't a late order hitter
And Handscomb has proved valuable as the guy to keep the score ticking over in the mid-overs against spin.
Based on that squad - best X1
Finch
Warner
Smith
Handscomb
Turner
Carey
Agar
Cummins
Starc
Zampa
Hazlewood
Smith at 3 should be locked in. Lab isn't a late order hitter
And Handscomb has proved valuable as the guy to keep the score ticking over in the mid-overs against spin.
Based on that squad - best X1
Finch
Warner
Smith
Handscomb
Turner
Carey
Agar
Cummins
Starc
Zampa
Hazlewood
Labs at 4 would be the same role Handscomb and Smarsh have played over the last 18 months. He's capable of playing that role. He had the 2nd highest strike rate of any of the top 15 runscorers in the One Day Cup this season.
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I can’t see them not giving Labuschagne the chance now. Handscomb will be stiff if he misses but if it’s a choice between the two, I expect they’ll go for Lab.
S Marsh and Khawaja were named in the presser as being unlucky, but it's only a three match series so there's no real point in taking them.
Stoinis may be left out to give Abbott a decent run at it?
Maxwell - under the circumstances, flying to India for three games in a week is probably not what he needs right now.
M Marsh - still can't bowl
Wade and Lyon - not sure, perhaps give them a rest after a full-on few months
Behredorff - injured
Jhye - coming back from injury in ODD final
Coulter-Nile said it best himself:
Would like to see Carey at #5 instead. I think he would be more suited as a player to anchor down at one end and just rotate the strike to let the bigger hitters unleash when closing an innings. Means 1 of either Smith, Lab/Handscomb or Carey would bat deep letting blokes like Warner, Finch & Turner to clear boundaries. Carey batting at 6 or 7 means he's in a finishers role and to me, doesn't seem to be his natural game.
