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Schofield will start in round one barring injury.
There is no doubt about that whether we like it or not.
By the sounds of it, Ebert will not be ready by round one, so that rules him out.
wrt Schofield and Stevens, I often wonder just how much their possessions figures are inflated because they are our midfield go to men.
Stevens was go-to No1, Schofield is No2.
If I had to choose between the two, I don't think I would surprise anyone around here by picking Schofield.
IMO there is a greater chance of a goal when he has the ball than when Stevens had the ball (% wise that is).

I do rate Schofield, but no more than a plethora of other midfielders going around with other sides. I do not think he is special, but as I have said before when he came back in earlier last year we looked a lot better.
The question there is did we look better because he was there, or was it because our midfield style was designed with Primus, Francou, Stevens, Carr, James and Schofield in mind and never got altered when they aren't playing or not playing well?
IMO the latter is the one that catches us out. It is our midfield that has let us down against certain teams, and they are the ones we will meet in finals. Stevens and Schofield are the main ones whose job is to carry the ball to the forwards and failed to do so again and again. Stevens had heaps of the ball for zippo results.

IMO it is time to change our midfield set up.
2000 was a good year. It set us up for what we did in the next three years. By the time round 22 finished in 2000, it was obvious 2001 would be miles and miles better.
 

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In an ideal world, Kane Cornes, Salopek, Ebert and Cassisi would all play like superstars in round1 and we would not need to "patch up" our side with average-good older players.

This is not an ideal world!

Even Brisbane went into their grand finals with players whom some might consider to be of less-than-star quality eg Copeland, Hart, Ashcroft, Notting

I would rather the devils I know (Schofield and even Kingsley) than those I don't yet (Mahoney and RFK).
 

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Team for round 1 vs Essendon.

B - RFK- Wakelin- Wanganeen
HB - Wilson - Thurstans - Bishop
C - Schofield - Carr - Dew
HF - Pickett - Tredrea - Montgomery
F - S Burgoyne- C Cornes- Lade
R - Primus- K Cornes P Burgoyne
INT - Brogan Dew Hardwick Bishop

That was an effort. Looking and still looking, I cannot believe that I have left out Hardwick, Cochrane, Cassisi, Kingsley, Poulton(not Poults how could I), Salapek, White and I could keep going. But I am quietly pleased that it was such an effort.
 

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#29
Originally posted by rubberman
Team for round 1 vs Essendon.

B - RFK- Wakelin- Wanganeen
HB - Wilson - Thurstans - Bishop
C - Schofield - Carr - Dew
HF - Pickett - Tredrea - Montgomery
F - S Burgoyne- C Cornes- Lade
R - Primus- K Cornes P Burgoyne
INT - Brogan Dew Hardwick Bishop

That was an effort. Looking and still looking, I cannot believe that I have left out Hardwick, Cochrane, Cassisi, Kingsley, Poulton(not Poults how could I), Salapek, White and I could keep going. But I am quietly pleased that it was such an effort.
You can get one of them in, we only have one Bishop ;)
 
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#30
I am hopeless at this but here goes....

B- Poulton - Wakelin - Wanganeen
HB- Hardwick - Bishop - Thurstans
C- Dew - Carr - Cassisi
HF- P.Burgoyne - Tredrea - Pickett
FF- Primus - C.Cornes - S.Burgoyne
R- Brogan - K.Cornes - Wilson
INT-Montgomery - Salopek - Schofield - Lade

Apologies too RFK, Cochrane, White etc, etc, etc.
 

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#32
Originally posted by JuniorBurger
There's plenty of room in that team Rubberman last time I checked we only have one Stewy Dew too!;) :D
How drunk were you when u did this rubberman? :p :D You had Hardwick in your team and on your list of leave outs :confused: ;) :D
 

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#33
Originally posted by PJ Power
In an ideal world, Kane Cornes, Salopek, Ebert and Cassisi would all play like superstars in round1 and we would not need to "patch up" our side with average-good older players.

This is not an ideal world!

Even Brisbane went into their grand finals with players whom some might consider to be of less-than-star quality eg Copeland, Hart, Ashcroft, Notting

I would rather the devils I know (Schofield and even Kingsley) than those I don't yet (Mahoney and RFK).
The devil we know has failed us in every important game. It is a bad bad devil.
Time to get us a new demon. :)
 

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B: hardwick - wakelin - wanganeen
HB: poulton - c cornes - montgomery
C: k cornes - ebert - dew
HF: schofield - tredrea - salopek
FF: s burgoyne - pickett - lade

R: primus - p burgoyne - wilson

INT: thurstans - carr - mahoney - white

id like to see pickett have some opposition defenders "hear footsteps".
 

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There goes my quiet confidance.

lets try again
Team for round 1 vs Essendon.

B - RFK- Wakelin- Wanganeen
HB - Wilson - Thurstans - Bishop
C - Schofield - Carr - Dew
HF - Pickett - Tredrea - Montgomery
F - S Burgoyne- C Cornes- Lade
R - Primus- K Cornes P Burgoyne
INT - Brogan Cassisi Hardwick Poulton


I am still laughing at myself:D
 

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#36
Originally posted by mic59
Although I do not accept, and probably never will, that a totally negative player like Cochrane should be in our side; as round 1 is against Essendon and Hird did nothing in the semi-final I think he will get a run. It was weather, injury and the others who beat him but Choco thinks the world of Cochrane. Choco is a bit like former England manager Graham Taylor in this, he rewards work rate over excellence.
Cochrane is a champ Mic and you will see it over and over again particularly when he stitches up Nick Stevens.

Go you good thing! :D
 

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#37
Originally posted by Macca19
I cant beleive so few people have put Schofield in the team...not even on the bench.

Considering there is no N Stevens anymore, and without Francou for the year and James for at least 5 weeks, that Schofield - coming off his best and most consistent year - would be one of, if not the first picked player in the midfield.

Unless he is injured or shows ridiculously poor pre season form where he fails to gain a possesion in 5 games, then i will be pretty annoyed if he isnt a major part of our midfield in round 1.

Now that Nick isnt there anymore the no.1 outside midfielder role would just about be his i would have thought.

Its all good people saying we have to look for the future and that Schofield is expendable, but starting a midfield without Stevens, James, Francou and Schofield as the mainstays last year would just be stupid.
Im with you Macca, Schoey should be in everyone's side, shame on them.

I would have him in my side but I have been too lazy to even think that far ahead.
 

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#38
Originally posted by rubberman
I cannot believe that I have left out Hardwick, Cochrane, Cassisi, Kingsley, Poulton(not Poults how could I), Salapek, White and I could keep going. But I am quietly pleased that it was such an effort.
goes to show that our list aint 1/2 as bad as all the morons on the other side of mt. gambier claim!;)

i submitted mine, happy at the time, and now looking back, ive realised theres some crazy omissions!
 

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The Schoey debate has been quite interesting. Enough to have me change my team to the following :

FF : Lade White S. Burgoyne
HF : C. Cornes Tredrea Pickett
1R : Brogan P. Burgoyne Ebert
C: Dew Carr Schofield
HB : Wilson Bishop Poulton
FB : Wanganeen Wakelin Hardwick

Int : Thurstans Primus K. Cornes Salopek

I share the opinion of some others that we need to start phasing Schoey out, but give it to mid-year at least for at least one of Ebert, Salopek, Hall or Cassisi to cement themselves as a permanent midfield player before packing him off to the 'backup only bench'.

With the line up above we still have Brogan, Senior B, Carr and Schofield who played centre last year. Not exactly a completely remade midfield, yet still room for Ebert and Salopek to show their goods.
 

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How I would select for Round 1

F Primus C Cornes S Burgoyne

HF Pickett Tredrea Salopek

C Dew Carr P Burgoyne

HB K Cornes Thurstans Hardwick

B Poulton Wakelin Wanganeen

R Lade Wilson Ebert

Int. Brogan Cassisi Schofield Cochrane

Emg Ackland Montgomery White

No hope: Bishop, Kingsley, Forster Knight, Mahoney
 

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#42
Originally posted by PAfolwr
The devil we know has failed us in every important game. It is a bad bad devil.
Time to get us a new demon. :)
That's precisely why RFK, Mahoney, Ebert, Salopek, Thurstans and White are about the only players who should consider themselves certainties come the finals.

Up until then Schoey and Kingers better earn their money somehow.;)
 

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#43
Originally posted by Scott
Cochrane is a champ Mic and you will see it over and over again particularly when he stitches up Nick Stevens.

Go you good thing! :D
You can have your opinion, Scott. I have stated mine. A champ will win us games. Cochrane has shown he can shut down Stevens who is playing for a team which will again struggle to get out of bonus pick range. A champ wins games and beats multiple players, a player who wins a one-on-one may do little more than change the game from 18-a-side to 17-a-side.
 

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Here goes.

FF : Pickett Primus S.Burgoyne
HF : C. Cornes Tredrea P.Burgoyne
C: Cassisi Carr Schofield
HB : Wilson Thurstans Hardwick
FB : Wanganeen Wakelin Bishop
1R : Brogan Dew K.Cornes
Int : RFK White Ebert Salopek

Bishop instead of Monty just incase we need a third ruckman, and for the new players to get heaps of game time not just a few minutes.

That is assuming Ebert will be fit. Going by some of the reports that may not be the case. If not, then Monty on the HB line and Wilbur in the midfield rotation.
 

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#45
Originally posted by mic59
You can have your opinion, Scott. I have stated mine. A champ will win us games. Cochrane has shown he can shut down Stevens who is playing for a team which will again struggle to get out of bonus pick range. A champ wins games and beats multiple players, a player who wins a one-on-one may do little more than change the game from 18-a-side to 17-a-side.
Im sure in your eyes that buddy player Joel Patfull will be champ as well. ;)
 

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Originally posted by Scott
Im sure in your eyes that buddy player Joel Patfull will be champ as well. ;)
If there is one player that will be a guaranteed champion it is none other than Kane Cornes. :p
 
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Ok Here goes, with very little thought I might add.

F: S Burger Lade Dew
HF Cornes Tredders Pickett
C Salopek Carr Cassisi
HB Wilson Thurstans Poults
FB Bishop Wakelin Wangas

R Brogan P Burgoyne Scoey

Int Primus Hardwick Ebert K Cornes

Kingers might sneak back in if he proves himself during preseason, probably at the expense of Poults going on past history...Ebert, Sal or Cassisi would make way for Jamesy when he's back....:rolleyes:

Ok who have I left out??
 

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Round 1

B Wanganeen Wakelin Poulton
HB Hardwick C Cornes Wilson
C K Cornes P Burgoyne Pickett
HF Schofield Tredrea Dew
F Lade D White S Burgoyne
R Primus Carr Kingsley

IC Salopek Cassisi Thurstans D Brogan

EMG Bishop Ebert Gilham RFK Chaplin
 
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