List Mgmt. Our Trade/FA, Suburban & Country Town Thread

[Ugene41]

Not sure if posted but Twomey said on gettable the pick swap trade Carlton did basically rules them out of getting Houston

Yea they now have nothing else they can offer apart from Pick 12 or 14 straight swap for Houston. Our offer would be 13 plus Richards and Port are already baulking at that.

 

[manicpie]

You know something or are you guessing?

He's omnipresent and knows all

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

As you said, the key difference in all this cluster is:

• Port wants Lukosius

It's not just that Port wants Lukosius, but that Gold Coast desperately wants Lukosius' salary off their books, so they really want that deal to happen. With contracts like the one they just gave to Mac Andrew getting given out, they can't afford to be paying a guy not in Hardwick's plans north of $1.25m a year.

 

[Fat Jesus]

You know something or are you guessing?

Pretty obvious to me. We will bend if we have no other option.
Suns want JFN, Port want Joe Richards.
We want Houston.

 

[Ugene41]

Why would North put a top 4 pick on the table for 13? Seems a bit odd.

Yea it would be false. If they wanted to move their F1 into this year they would target one of the 5 first rounders Richmond are about to get and would jump at a chance at North's F1 next year.

Might even be able to get Pick 6 from Richmond for that. Or at least Pick 10 from Freo

 

[Pistol Night]

Do you want Noble or not numb nuts?

 

[sr36]

Seems pretty simple to chuck in the Hawks pick though right? Blues got 14 for F1 + F2.

I think it'll go in to the pot, but it'll be a 3 way trade. GC won't want to do Lukosius as a stand alone deal. They want him off their books. And a 3 way deal best enables them to all walk away happy.

 

[HFF]

pick 13 will end up with us.
The Suns have too much in play to mess about.
They will not let Hardwick down

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

Sounds like we are prepared to walk away, because we aren't prepared to sell the farm for one player over the future of the club

I know you really want us to hit the draft Jen, but I really think you are underestimating how good Houston is. Whatever pick 13 ends up being is not going to be thing that puts us in flag contention next year, no matter how solid the draft is.

 

[stormskye]

How is it not?

Even if we won the flag it's Pick 18 as a starting point in a draft they want more high picks in

there’s a bidding war for 13. Syd have offered 19 and 21, Carlton traded a future first and second for 14. Our future first is not enough for 13. It’s a sellers market for Gold Coast

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

Rumours the dogs might blow us out of the water for pick 13 now. As well as the Swans bid
If the Suns just take the best offer for 13 I think we are done and dusted.

What rumours?

 

[HFF]

I know you really want us to hit the draft Jen, but I really think you are underestimating how good Houston is. Whatever pick 13 ends up being is not going to be thing that puts us in flag contention next year, no matter how solid the draft is.

Nobody is underestimating how good he is.
It’s just balancing the needs of now and the future which what I love about the language Leppa is using and how he’s approaching this.

 

[Hardas]

Just fyi, we’ve got Melbournes F1 and Norths F1 on the table for 13, so Collingwood needs to beat those offers really.

13 for Noble + F1 wouldn’t really even beat 13 for Norths F1 but we’d do it to get Noble sorted.

No, we don't need to beat every offer for the pick.
GC needs to choose whether our offer is adequate to help the trade for a popular contracted player to go through.
We need to assess how best to replace Nobes, if he goes.
Hence, the ticking clock...

 

[Jen2310]

I know you really want us to hit the draft Jen, but I really think you are underestimating how good Houston is. Whatever pick 13 ends up being is not going to be thing that puts us in flag contention next year, no matter how solid the draft is.I'm just going by what Leppa is indicating.

He wants a pick in this years draft but houston too, but its a balancing act. We'll see what happens and if we can manage both.

 

[TradeDraft]

Suns being Pain up the Ass sounds like

 

[Basil brush]

Do you want Noble or not numb nuts?

I think they want him, but unfortunately for us, not for what we want for him.

It will be intriguing if we then keep him, if that is the case.

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

Nobody is underestimating how good he is.
It’s just balancing the needs of now and the future which what I love about the language Leppa is using and how he’s approaching this.

If we assume nobody is underestimating how good he is, they're certainly overestimating the strength of the draft and how much it will contribute to winning the flag next year.

Seriously, people here got on board with getting one last rodeo out of the veterans next year and how Pendles is training hard to give it "one last crack" in his words. Pick 13 isn't the ting to give us that one last crack.

The excitement over being in the flag hunt is much greater than the excitement of bringing in a pimply faced kid who kicks ball good.

 

[TradeDraft]

What a terrifying 3 minute ordeal that was, I was thinking about suggesting we sack Leppa

Don’t have to put Trade Papers in yet as long as they get in before Trade Period Closes

waiting sucks

Shows trade period should be a week at Most

 

[Bramax]

Do you want Noble or not numb nuts?

Yep of course they do. Just playing possum.

 

[Vicky Park]

Most clubs are very smart in managing their cap situation, Carlton no doubt will have to modify few contracts but I am pretty certain they will be able to find a way fit Houston in their cap.

Carlton have found some very creative solutions in the past to a tight salary cap.

 

[Carlthetruth]

It's all falling into place for us to get Owies for nothing. Come to papa

Its not happening so daddy will be disappointed.

 

[gouki88]

He wants a pick in this years draft but houston too, but its a balancing act. We'll see what happens and if we can manage both.

Obviously managing both is ideal, but Houston should be the obvious priority

 

[Pistol Night]

Carlton have found some very creative solutions in the past to a tight salary cap.

That ended well for them. Hopefully they try again actually

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

This is the particular stage of trade period I start to loathe.

Everything is in a holding pattern so nothing happens in terms of player movement, and journalists are wanking themselves to death with rumours and innuendo.

 

[VinnieB]

I'm not as convinced cap space is a major issue for them. There's ways of creating cap space.

The main reason they couldn't offload Owies was the price he put on his head.

If Carlton were motivated enough they could re-shop Owies with the caveat of part-paying his salary for a period of time which would still free up cap space for them.

I don't trust that vile, iniquitous horde of sub-human ferals and feel they will push hard again for Houston.

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It’s been stated by Owies’ manager that the figure quoted was complete rubbish. Seems it was totally made up.

The blues also need to juggle Weitering’s new contract (need to add the Nigerian multiple) as well as DeKonings new contract end of 2025. I suspect he will have $1m+ offers in the market place.