Roast Our trade period

[inflames1919]

Somehow did worse than with McCartney. I'm not sure how that's possible but it's true. We lost quality and replaced it with far worse players. Not signing Dahlhaus is the worst decision I've seen made at this club.

The worst decision was more of an indecision in not capitalising on our premiership in the 2016 trade period.


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[bontshow]

I'm coming around to what we did. I rate both Lloyd and Duryea, Lloyd is what we need, and there's enough flexibility in our squad for Duryea to play a role. Got two second rounders and a third rounder for players that contributed little in 2018. Kept pick 7 in a high quality draft and have plenty of picks for West & Khamis

 

[#1 Dogs Fan]

We just got rid off Redpath, smith, roughead and Adams.

4 players we have regularly relied heavily upon however due to to being injury prone players we were actually lucky to have gotten a combined 22 games between all 4 in the past 4 years.

Id rather have them off the list and replace them with with new faces and have players fighting for possitions as aposed to having players gapfill positions for unkown periods.

Bevo is in full rebuild mode and building HIS team. be pataint. we have 1 maybe 2 more years than a dynasty is a great possibility

 

[PuzzledfromParkville]

Yeah, and they STILL have more members than us! Says something about our culture!

Wow massive troll. Prefers the Dees culture over the Dogs. Braybrook Son is Brian Wilson

 

[LondonBulldog]

Wow massive troll. Prefers the Dees culture over the Dogs. Braybrook Son is Brian Wilson

I'm happy we are a smaller club, suits me, always get a good spot etc.

Yet Melbourne without a doubt are the sleeping giant of the AFL. There were one of the most successful clubs for years in 50's 60's and had the most supporters, held most record attendances etc. That gets passed down generations. They, like Richmond were crap for years and people drop off. More success this year and they are a power again crowd wise. Never gets fully recognised in membership as the MCC has a high portion of Melbourne supporters. yet Melbourne will be up there again in attendances next year.

 

[Draft Pick]

Football is about more than kicking.

True.

But all the things which help a team which aren’t about kicking can be undone with a bad kick.

 

[Braybrook Son]

Football is about more than kicking.

More about kicking if you want to be successful. Think about it!

 

[GreatSouthWest]

The money saved in the medical department should easily cover the recruitment of a specialist skills coach - say goal kicking for example.

 

[immortalmike]

More about kicking if you want to be successful. Think about it!

We won a flag with Dahlhaus, Dunkley, Hamling, Morris, Cordy, Boyd, Roughead, Hunter, Biggs, Picken, Wood and Smith.
None of them are great kicks. Yet we smashed teams in the finals. Because committed players who are played to their strengths are just as important as players who can kick.

 

[Mr. Walker]

I'm coming around to what we did. I rate both Lloyd and Duryea, Lloyd is what we need, and there's enough flexibility in our squad for Duryea to play a role.

You are lucky. I have never rated Duryea but now he is a Bulldogs player I have to like him. It is causing me much inner conflict and stress. But as a supporter of the Dogs what can you do?

 

[lachy]

We won a flag with Dahlhaus, Dunkley, Hamling, Morris, Cordy, Boyd, Roughead, Hunter, Biggs, Picken, Wood and Smith.
None of them are great kicks. Yet we smashed teams in the finals. Because committed players who are played to their strengths are just as important as players who can kick.

But of them Dahl is the worst particularly kicking at goal, though Dunkley thus far challenges him.

Smith and Cordy were are good kicks at goal and all of the rest are bettet field kicks than Dahl

 

[Beasley]

No, they’re not Hawthorn, but I brought it up to compare with us. We won a flag 2 years ago, are located in the biggest growing sector of Victoria, the Western suburbs, we should be thriving, yet we continue to struggle to attract fans. Our culture needs to change.

I have to disagree with you statement that we fail to attract fans.

In 2000 we had just 18,000 members. By 2010, it had grown to 34,842 and last year our membership was 47,653!

Not bad progress for our club.

 

[Braybrook Son]

I have to disagree with you statement that we fail to attract fans.

In 2000 we had just 18,000 members. By 2010, it had grown to 34,842 and last year our membership was 47,653!

Not bad progress for our club.

Yeah, and now it’s going south. Even North, Saints and Melbourne have more. Every club grows as the population grows, doesn’t mean much.

 

[immortalmike]

But of them Dahl is the worst particularly kicking at goal, though Dunkley thus far challenges him.

Smith and Cordy were are good kicks at goal and all of the rest are bettet field kicks than Dahl

Even if that was true (it isn't) Dahlhaus has more to his exposed A game than pretty much everyone else on that list bar Boyd and Morris.

 

[_M_16_]

I have to disagree with you statement that we fail to attract fans.

In 2000 we had just 18,000 members. By 2010, it had grown to 34,842 and last year our membership was 47,653!

Not bad progress for our club.

I did a breakdown of this a couple of years ago, we had one of the higher percentage growth in membership from like the late 90's, to just before our flag. Think it was in the top 5, still behind quite a few teams in overall numbers though, but growth we are up there.

 

[100action]

I have to disagree with you statement that we fail to attract fans.

In 2000 we had just 18,000 members. By 2010, it had grown to 34,842 and last year our membership was 47,653!

Not bad progress for our club.

the year after a drought breaker premiership will be an outlier for any club.

if we dont win a premiership in the next few, than those years would be the benchmark (i.e. the return to the 'norm')

 

[_M_16_]

We won a flag with Dahlhaus, Dunkley, Hamling, Morris, Cordy, Boyd, Roughead, Hunter, Biggs, Picken, Wood and Smith.
None of them are great kicks. Yet we smashed teams in the finals. Because committed players who are played to their strengths are just as important as players who can kick.

Yeah but lets be realistic, you can only get away with having too much poor ball users for so long. The last two years showed that, not only because our team pressure was down, but the inconsistent ball use really hurt us, especially on the rebound, a big problem with our ability to score has come down in part due to poor disposal. Hawks were not that great a team athletically, and okay ball users, they worked on that and became one of the better users of the ball in the league, hence they were able to transition the football quickly and cleanly, and sat on top of the pile for a few years, add in their physical game to compliment it.

 

[bontshow]

You are lucky. I have never rated Duryea but now he is a Bulldogs player I have to like him. It is causing me much inner conflict and stress. But as a supporter of the Dogs what can you do?

What's your beef? He's a good kick, quick enough, good in the air for his height, I don't see the issue

 

[lachy]

Even if that was true (it isn't) Dahlhaus has more to his exposed A game than pretty much everyone else on that list bar Boyd and Morris.

In the last 2 years?

 

[lachy]

Even if that was true (it isn't) Dahlhaus has more to his exposed A game than pretty much everyone else on that list bar Boyd and Morris.

And who was he a better kick at goal than and field kick than in that list particularly in the last 2 years? Its your opinion like it is mine but Cordy and Smith clearly bettet kicks at goal proved that in finals. None of the others on the list regularly created the turnovers Dahl did. Dahl's strength was pressure and commitment and his in close handballs which were of a high quality up to 2016. These dropped off a fair bit in 2017 and markedly in 2018. He was never a good kick which is why no club picked him up and we rookied him. His kicking also dropped off in 2017 and 2018. Who was he better than and why?

 

[AJARWA]

Hard to tell to the difference between some of these threads and the dogs facebook page these days.

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

Let’s face it, being a Marvel Stadium tenant is a drawback. We are the only tenant to have won a flag. Every player wants to have home games at the MCG.

 

[immortalmike]

In the last 2 years?

Yes.

And who was he a better kick at goal than and field kick than in that list particularly in the last 2 years? Its your opinion like it is mine but Cordy and Smith clearly bettet kicks at goal proved that in finals. None of the others on the list regularly created the turnovers Dahl did. Dahl's strength was pressure and commitment and his in close handballs which were of a high quality up to 2016. These dropped off a fair bit in 2017 and markedly in 2018. He was never a good kick which is why no club picked him up and we rookied him. His kicking also dropped off in 2017 and 2018. Who was he better than and why?

If we're talking about the last two years Cordy played back and Smith barely played so I'm not sure how you can say much about their goal kicking. Both were also dropped several times. Dahlhaus on the other hand was not dropped once. So based on that he's better than almost all our team in those two years bar Bont and Macrae.

Geelong got a bargain and they know it. While we're arguing about what a very good player can't do they recognize and are excited by what he can do. Something Bev specifically said he'd do at our club and has since did a 180 on.

 

[Thunderoad]

To my mind, we’ve had two systemic problems for at least the last five years.

Kicking for goal and delivery into the forward line.

We improved both of those things to some degree during the trade period by losing a player and bringing in two others

Dahlhaus was emblematic of those systemic problems and on that basis, I’m pleased that we let him go.

Rough has got slower, less agile and more injury prone and whilst I wish him well personally at Collingwood, I think it’s a poor recruitment decision in their behalf. He’s done.

Adams is a loss but it is somewhat mitigated by his chronic injury problems.

 

[King Harold]

In the last 2 years?

For a AFL midfielder Dahl is one of the worst kicks I have seen.
No matter how you want to sugar coat it , it was Shizen .