Our two greatest trades: How Fremantle paid to stop worrying and love Serong.

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Tony_Clifton

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TLDR: Serong = 10 + 28 + 4th round pick

Fremantle didn't trade to get Serong, they traded to get a pick ahead of a Henry bid.
That's right and I believe it was the best wheeling and dealing in our history.

Story time now, if you'll indulge me. Our two greatest trades happened 20 years apart. Carlton is the asshole on both occasions. Here we go:

At 2019's end we finished 13th our 1st round pick would have been 6 except for GC being gifted a priority pick and so became pick 7. Pick 8 was held by North and pick 9 was in the hands of Carlton (who had traded with Adelaide in a pick swap in 2018). Pick 10 started it's journey in Port Adelaide's hands as its 1st rd pick for finishing 10th.

Brad Hill wanted to go to St Kilda and we knew Liam Henry was potentially going around pick 10. If Billy were to go we would ideally like to recieve a pick before Henry was bid on. St Kilda held pick 6 before the trade period started and we would have coveted that pick in exchange for Brad. In the second trade completed St Kilda traded out pick 6 & 59 for 12 & 18. Bugger.

St Kilda next move was to sent 12 & 18 to Port in exchange for pick 10, Dougal Howard and Paddy Ryder.

The next day the deal for Brad Hill was done. Hill and our future 3rd left the building and in came picks 10, 58, StK's future 2nd & 4th plus Blake Acres. We quickly passed on the two future picks for James Aish, 69(nice :)) and Collingwood's future 3rd. So by Wednesday evening, we had 10, 58, 69, Aish, Acres and Collingwood's 3rd pick in 2020 for the price of Brad Hill and our 3rd rd pick in the following year.

I'm not sure if you are aware but there is a lot of nothin' going on for long periods in trade week We were probably looking at our picks 7 and 10 and wondering/worrying/driving ourselves mad with the idea that some asshole would bid on Henry at 8 or 9. Those two adverseries were Melbourne and Carlton. I imagine Melbourne got in our ear and were trying to convince us that those dogs over at Carlton really really liked Henry and that Melbourne could generously help us out, when that didn't work they probably told us- "screw it, we'll bid on him at 8 unless you agree to a deal."

We eventually decided we couldn't trust Carlton or Melbourne and so agreed to a deal with Melbourne for pick 8. Melbourne probably wanted our picks 10 and 22. We didn't want to hand over 22 as well as 10 to Melbourne, plus we needed to get some sweet late draft picks to pay for Henry. And so we made a deal with Adelaide. Out went pick 22 and the future 3rd from Collingwood we were holding and in came 28, 49 and Carlton's future 4th.

21st November-Finally we arrive at the big one. Fremantle receives PICK8. Melbourne receives PICK10, 28 and the future 4th. Melbourne would have been delighted with this and we are left wondering whether this trade was really necessary. I mean if Henry doesn't get bid on before 10 it wasn't even necessary, and we look like nervous nellies who blinked first.

Fast forward to the draft.

Gil's ,"Fremantle Pick 7 Hayden Young, Fremantle Pick 8 Caleb Serong, Carlton Pick 9 has bid on Liam Henry. Fremantle has matched the bid and with pick 9 selects Liam Henry. Carlton pick 10 has bid on Tom Green. GWS matches"

*2minutes later*

"Carlton has live traded pick 11 to Gold Coast."

Carlton later claim their shenanigans was to buy time but I believe it's because they are still offended over the Stephen O'Reilly trade.

Bigfooty Classic Post - " Worst trade ever? That's easy. Pick 16 and 46 for Stephen O'Reilly who played 12 games for the Blues. AND Carlton had to pay him illegally outside the cap. AND he blew the whistle on them. AND the Scum had to pay a fine. AND they got kicked out of the draft and had to recruit hacks. AND it meant that their multi-million investment in Denis Pagan was a waste because he had no players. Stephen O'Reilly for - Pick 16, pick 46, $1m fine, pick 1, 2, 17 and 33 in the 2003 draft, pick 1 in the 2003 PSD, 1st and 2nd round picks in the 2004 draft. Daylight second behind this one.
 
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Summary 2019
Outgoing: Brad Hill, pick 22, a 2020 3rd and something like a future 5th
Incoming 8, 49, 58, 69, Acres, Aish

Drafthand: 7, 8, 49, 58, 69, 79, 83
Picks: Hayden Young, Caleb Serong, Liam Henry and Michael Fredericks(the pick for Michael came from Brisbane for a peppercorn)

Carryover debt: Henry's points deficit resulted in sliding from 10 to 14. We picked Chapman. The opportunity cost was that we could have selected Reid, Pedlar, Powelll or Bruhn instead of Chapman. Who knows?
 

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Carlton later claim their shenanigans was to buy time but I believe it's because they are still offended over the Stephen O'Reilly trade.
I personally believe that Carlton was dirty on us for ruining their deal with Adelaide. Adelaide were happy to downgrade their pick 6 to Carlton's pick 9 if they knew McAsey would still be there. Freo suspecting Carlton would pounce on Young at pick 6 started showing interest in McAsey, so Adelaide backed out of the deal. Carlton then wanted revenge for missing out on Young.
 

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Melbourne made it clear they wanted a small forward and Henry was the best one, Carlton also rated him - but Melbourne knew that they would be able to get their second choice at pick #10 so they did very well out of it and so did we.
 

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I personally believe that Carlton was dirty on us for ruining their deal with Adelaide. Adelaide were happy to downgrade their pick 6 to Carlton's pick 9 if they knew McAsey would still be there. Freo suspecting Carlton would pounce on Young at pick 6 started showing interest in McAsey, so Adelaide backed out of the deal. Carlton then wanted revenge for missing out on Young.
And Freo picked the two players on Carlton's board right before they got the chance to.

Excellent draft for Freo and we should see the fruits of that this season - we just need to keep in mind that it's a lot easier to have a rockstar draft when the players are taken as first round picks.
 

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