Out of all these young guys, who will make it? | BigFooty

Out of all these young guys, who will make it?

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  1. legend166

    legend166 Premium Platinum

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    Okay so we've had a lot of new guys last season and so far this year. Time to make some predications so we can bump the thread in 10 years and laugh at everyone for bad opinions. Including mine possibly. Of course some of these guys are teenagers and trying to predict their development is basically impossible (who saw Aliir coming?) but the point of the thread is to do it so don't give me this "he's too young" business.

    The question is - who of the following will play 150+ games? I've picked the guys on our list who have debuted but played less than 20 games.

    James Rose
    Jordan Foote
    Will Hayward
    Oliver Florent
    Nic Newman
    Harrison Marsh
    Jordan Dawson
    Sam Naismith
    Aliir Aliir
    Robbie Fox

    I think Hayward, Marsh, Aliir and Naismith will go on to play 150 games.

    Rose will probably get cut this year.

    Foote, Newman and Fox will probably be depth players for a few years but won't have huge impact.

    Florent is giving me huge Pat Veszpremi vibes, I.e a bust.

    Jordan Dawson will struggle to get a game when we're all fit.
     
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  2. DeadlyAkkuret

    DeadlyAkkuret Brownlow Medallist

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    James Rose Less than 25 games
    Jordan Foote Less than 25 games
    Will Hayward 175-250
    Oliver Florent 150-200
    Nic Newman 200-300
    Harrison Marsh 100-150
    Jordan Dawson 50-75
    Sam Naismith 175-200
    Aliir Aliir 200-300
    Robbie Fox 175-250
     
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    that'd be something
     
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  4. Blacky

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    James Rose - Cut at end of year.
    Jordan Foote - To be moved on within the next two years...too many players on the list fitting his profile.
    Will Hayward - 250+ games
    Oliver Florent - 250+ games
    Nic Newman - 250+ games
    Harrison Marsh - To be moved on within the next three years.
    Jordan Dawson - To be moved on within the next three to five years.
    Sam Naismith - 150+ games (injuries pending)
    Aliir Aliir - 250+ games
    Robbie Fox - To be moved on within the next five years.
     
  6. Blacky

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    Lids off
     
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    I suspect Foote and Dawson may get more games than some think.

    A subsidiary question though: how many of these careers will finish in Swans colours?

    I think Aliir Aliir has the potential to be a franchise player in Sydney.

    Naismith will hopefully push on as a required player.

    Every other player on that list will have to work hard for 100 games. But if they get there they'll be entrenched in this club.
     
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    Keep in mind that Brandon Jack and Rose looked decent when they started
     
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    What's the average life span of an AFL player? 100 - 125 games maybe? So to make 150+ means you are really good for an extended period of time...

    Nothing I've seen from these guys has led me to believe they are something special, so I think they will be lucky to make the 75 game mark (with Jordan Dawson being a question mark as I know nothing about him):
    James Rose
    Jordan Foote
    Harrison Marsh
    Jordan Dawson

    All of these guys have something imo and are likely to make 150+ (with Naismith being the least certain because I think the really big guys get hurt more):
    Will Hayward
    Oliver Florent
    Nic Newman
    Sam Naismith
    Aliir Aliir

    Cream of the crop, 200+ guys:
    Will Hayward
    Nic Newman
    Aliir Aliir
     
  10. BloodySwan

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    There's some serious undervaluations on Marsh here. The kid has only played 10 senior games! His matches against Port & Collingwood were strong performances, I can easily see him going 200+ matches.
     
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    Kidding, right?
    You've got Aliir four times.
     
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    Will Hayward (200+ games)
    Oliver Florent (200+ games)
    Aliir Aliir (200+ games)
    Nic Newman (100-150 games)
    Sam Naismith (100 games)
    Harrison Marsh (75-100 games)
    Jordan Dawson (50 games)
    Robbie Fox (50 games)
    James Rose (less than 25)
    Jordan Foote (less than 25)
     
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    Lol I like him a lot! :D

    The question was who would make to 150+ and I think he will, but I also think he will go further and be a 200+ gamer, so he fits in both categories :)
     
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    I like Robbie Fox. He's combative, he stays on his feet, he seems to make good decisions. There's something of the Brett Kirk about him.

    Hayward and Florent have the class. Give Dawson some time, it wasn't the best style of game for a debutant flanker.

    Foote puts in, but I just don't think he has the requisite skills. Looking to hand off within 40m (and with good reason!) is just not AFL standard.

    Marsh was ok but I'm not sure he'll ever be best 22.
     
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    Newman is older than you would think. I think 175 would be his upper limit.
     
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    Yes, to reach 300 he would need to play until he is 39 years old.

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    Yeah I thought his game on Friday night was really good. His defensive work was great and he started reminding me of Malceski a little bit with his rebound (although not as good a kick).

    I guess the question is will there be room for him in the backline in the next few years?
     
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    James Rose. 60 games
    Jordan Foote. 3 -5 games
    Will Hayward. 150 plus
    Oliver Florent. 100 plus
    Nic Newman. 150 plus
    Harrison Marsh. 75 plus
    Jordan Dawson. Less than 25
    Sam Naismith. 120 plus
    Aliir Aliir. 200 plus
    Robbie Fox less than 20
     
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    Jordan Foote
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    The one I think will be the best is Hayward. Florent is all class though
     
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    Way too early to tell.

    They could all be duds, could all be stars. Who knows
     
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    Hayward
    Aliir
    Daylight
     
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    Which ones end up at other clubs.
     
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    All of the above. We lose them all as the Buddy deal sinks the club and confines it to the bottom four for the next seven years
     
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    Kidding, right?
    I can't comment because I'm still trying to keep up with who they all are. It's like I'm watching some other club.
     
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