Outcome based Suspensions.

[Topkent]

Actually I don't think that, and i quite clearly never said that. Clever use of manipulation though.

So then you agree that suspending someone for a head clash in a shephard is farcical.

 

[demondavey]

If you choose to bump its your responsibility to not hurt the head of your opponent, accidents are not an excuse.

Can you explain how you do this exactly? Bearing in mind the following please;

1. These guys are full time athletes
2. These guys are capable of shifting heavy weights in a very explosive manner
3. These guys are very fast
4. We want to stop Rohan getting to the ball carrier as quickly as possible in a very fast moving game.
5. Rohan isn’t exactly running 100 in 45 seconds either, he is fast and very powerful.

 

[masai]

Speaking of Gawn, what happens if Ryan goes an hour early and misses the ball by a mile? That's a reckless jump with the potential for studs to the beard.

Please refer to the “Kennedy Leaping Files”, the precedent is listed there.

 

[demondavey]

Please refer to the “Kennedy Leaping Files”, the precedent is listed there.

Elaborate

 

[Kappa]

So then you agree that suspending someone for a head clash in a shephard is farcical.

If barrelling shoulder-first into your opponent isn't a bump, then what is?

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Actually I don't think that, and i quite clearly never said that. Clever use of manipulation though.

Do you think a player flying for a mark should have a duty of care? If he knees a player in the head and the player gets concussion would you be happy for him to be suspended even though he took a great mark?

 

[demondavey]

If you notice the video I posted, the commentator mentions ‘strict liability’. So what is this? A building site where you need your staff wearing a hard hat or a ****ing football field?

 

[Topkent]

If barrelling shoulder-first into your opponent isn't a bump, then what is?

See you don't understand footy then. What's his alternative?
That's the only thing he can do to protect his team mate.

 

[demondavey]

If barrelling shoulder-first into your opponent isn't a bump, then what is?

No one argues it was a bump. The action wasn’t negligent though, yet the outcome was unfortunate.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

If you notice the video I posted, the commentator mentions ‘strict liability’. So what is this? A building site where you need your staff wearing a hard hat or a ******* football field?

Surely all legal stuff can be solved by all players signing a waiver just as formular 1 drivers do. You choose to play this sport and accept that you could possibly get hurt.

 

[masai]

Elaborate

Jumps for mark, misses by miles, whilst he knees his step ladder in the head. The answer is play on.

To me, if you attempt to take a specie, get nowhere near the ball (don’t touch it), and take your step ladder out of play, it is a free against you.

Love the specie, but if you get over ambitious, you must pay the price.

 

[demondavey]

Do you think a player flying for a mark should have a duty of care? If he knees a player in the head and the player gets concussion would you be happy for him to be suspended even though he took a great mark?

Ill be happy to see Gawn get a free last night thanks. Reckon Flyin Ryan set you up with that major

 

[Topkent]

If barrelling shoulder-first into your opponent isn't a bump, then what is?

Stop dancing around the ****ing question aswell. Do you think a player who knees his opponent in the head should also be liable?

 

[Kappa]

See you don't understand footy then. What's his alternative?
That's the only thing he can do to protect his team mate.

So we agree it was a bump then?

The media seem to all label it as a bump, strange. There's about 2 people in the world using "sheppard" and you're both in this thread

 

[demondavey]

Jumps for mark, misses by miles, whilst he knees his step ladder in the head. The answer in play on.

To me, if you attempt to take a specie, get nowhere near the ball (don’t touch it), and take your step ladder out of play, it is a free against you.

Love the specie, but if you get over ambitious, you must pay the price.

Yeah we are talking really stupid attempts where the ball is nowhere, but general mistiming shouldn’t be punishable

 

[Kappa]

Stop dancing around the ******* question aswell. Do you think a player who knees his opponent in the head should also be liable?

Marking contests and choosing to bump your opponent are two very different things and 2 different topics. If you want to start a thread on how marking contests should be judged then tag me there.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

So we agree it was a bump then?

The media seem to all label it as a bump, strange. There's about 2 people in the world using "sheppard" and you're both in this thread

A bump can certainly be deemed as a shepherd in Aussie Football. It’s not Auskick where you run around with your arms spread saying don’t run around me.

 

[Topkent]

So we agree it was a bump then?

The media seem to all label it as a bump, strange. There's about 2 people in the world using "sheppard" and you're both in this thread

Answered a question with a question. A bump and a shephard are the same thing but you don't understand what a shephard is
You've ignored multiple questions because you've backed yourself into a corner you can't escape

 

[demondavey]

So we agree it was a bump then?

The media seem to all label it as a bump, strange. There's about 2 people in the world using "sheppard" and you're both in this thread

And you think the media aren’t pushing an AFL driven agenda?

#hooklinesinkerquint

Please explain how it wasn’t a shepherd?

 

[Topkent]

Marking contests and choosing to bump your opponent are two very different things and 2 different topics. If you want to start a thread on how marking contests should be judged then tag me there.

That's a pi55weak answer

 

[demondavey]

A bump can certainly be deemed as a shepherd in Aussie Football. It’s not Auskick where you run around with your arms spread saying don’t run around me.

But we have to put our hand up to nominate for the ruck? Auskick it is.

 

[masai]

Yeah we are talking really stupid attempts where the ball is nowhere, but general mistiming shouldn’t be punishable

Mistiming = free kick.

That is all I want for mistimed species, if an injury occurs it is an accident and should be treated as that.

 

[demondavey]

Marking contests and choosing to bump your opponent are two very different things and 2 different topics. If you want to start a thread on how marking contests should be judged then tag me there.

Not when risk of injury is concerned. In fact a mark is much much worse. Running knees up into an unsuspecting player? Brad Miller? Tom Lonergan?

 

[greatwhiteshark]

But we have to put our hand up to nominate for the ruck? Auskick it is.

Yep, just remove scoring, ladders and finals and then they all winners.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Mistiming = free kick.

That is all I want for mistimed species, if an injury occurs it is an accident and should be treated as that.

An accident is an accident and all over the ground in all circumstances accidental injury should be treated simply as it is. Bad luck it’s an accident.