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Bostonian

Brownlow Medallist
Sep 9, 2015
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Carlton
One I disagree with. He’s reprehensible in another way as a businessman and worse as an owner as he bleeds the club dry rather than pump money into it.
Oh wow thats just orrible.

Yeah that's definitely worse than all the human rights abuse that goes on in Saudi Arabia and the fact they fund groups like al-Qaeda.

Don't know how I missed such an obvious difference in reprehensible behaviour.
 
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Marcel Proust

"Oohh WADA ooga booga" {Jul 11 2013}
Sep 6, 2018
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Richmond
Oh wow thats just orrible.

Yeah that's definitely worse than all the human rights abuse that goes on in Saudi Arabia and the fact they find groups like al-Qaeda.

Don't know how I missed such an obvious difference in reprehensible behaviour.
The American owners have essentially be benefited from slavery and genocide.

From a long term view.

Not saying the Arab FGM / terror , corrupt model is any better
 

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Bostonian

Brownlow Medallist
Sep 9, 2015
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The American owners have essentially be benefited from slavery and genocide.

From a long term view.

Not saying the Arab FGM / terror , corrupt model is any better
Well given Saudi Arabia is doing it in 2020 and the American owners don't have slaves or a systematic process of killing people in 2020 I think we can find a fair bit of distance between the two groups in the last 20 years.
 

SM

Bigfooty Legend
Aug 3, 2008
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The American owners have essentially be benefited from slavery and genocide.

From a long term view.

Not saying the Arab FGM / terror , corrupt model is any better
You're just full of hot takes aren't you.

I mean me just sitting here in my apartment I'm benefiting from the historic mistreatment of the indigenous people in Australia, I'm as bad as Hitler.
 

Marcel Proust

"Oohh WADA ooga booga" {Jul 11 2013}
Sep 6, 2018
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You're just full of hot takes aren't you.

I mean me just sitting here in my apartment I'm benefiting from the historic mistreatment of the indigenous people in Australia, I'm as bad as Hitler.
Not you but the English rulers, yeah. Bad eggs. They argument they are ultimately worse than Chinese. Russian. Arab. Etx. Is very sound.

I'm just looking at history and the current world. No takes here.
 

SM

Bigfooty Legend
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Not you but the English rulers, yeah. Bad eggs. They argument they are ultimately worse than Chinese. Russian. Arab. Etx. Is very sound.

I'm just looking at history and the current world. No takes here.
You're drawing long bows to compare current businessmen being in an advantageous position because of events of 150 years ago with people who are actively committing atrocities in the present day.
 

Bostonian

Brownlow Medallist
Sep 9, 2015
13,415
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Not you but the English rulers, yeah. Bad eggs. They argument they are ultimately worse than Chinese. Russian. Arab. Etx. Is very sound.

I'm just looking at history and the current world. No takes here.
You're not really looking at history though.

You're just looking at the bits that support your view.

So your historical context argument is already falling apart.
The English rulers that began conquests that you're referring to weren't even Britons they were a mix of Vikings and Gauls which produced the Normans.

It was the native Britons who were constantly being invaded for a long time.
 
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Bostonian

Brownlow Medallist
Sep 9, 2015
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Carlton
You're drawing long bows to compare current businessmen being in an advantageous position because of events of 150 years ago with people who are actively committing atrocities in the present day.
English...

You're drawing long bows...

I laughed at that historical connection joke I made up in my head.
 

glenferry23

Brownlow Medallist
Apr 26, 2010
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Melbourne
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I mean 'poor Geordies' seems like a total misallocation of priorities. I don't think Mike Ashley is a particularly detestable figure when you compare him to the Saudi Arabian royal family backed wealth fund. Ashley isn't out sanctioning murder or oppressing millions. It would have been a disgrace to allow the Saudis to sportswash their regime (just like it is with PSG & Qatar) through the Premier League/Newcastle United. It's a great day for football and the Premier League that they have been forced to withdraw.
This nails it :thumbsu:
 

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Zidane98

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Dec 22, 2009
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Would love him onboard. Currently has a stake in Barnsley and is an adviser for Alkmaar. This is the only way to compete when up against oil money.
 

moomba

TheBrownDog
Oct 3, 2001
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If Beane could get a poverty stricken club like Liverpool on top with their collection of free transfers and volunteers you'd have to embrace the idea.
 

Zidane98

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Very good article abput club finance 2014-19:


Spurs loading up on debt to build the new stadium isnt ideal with no spectators allowed for the time being.

Surprised that Arsenal still were making repayments in relation to theur new stadium finished back in 06.

Chelsea loaned £440m by Abramovich. Only £40m converted to equity which is low.

How are West Brom paying a mystery £27m dividend to their holding company?
 

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