Hall of Famer
- Mar 19, 2008
- AFL Club
- St Kilda
- Other Teams
Hawks haven't gone to the draft assuming that every pick they get early will be great, or assuming that every late pick will be terrible.That's the thing, it's not luck. It can be a luck sometimes but to go for years without getting any top talent in or staying up for 15 years without dropping down isn't luck. Bottoming out can be quick or slow depending on how well you draft. The Hawks stayed up for a long time and decided to top up which was a poor call because they would have been better going to the draft. They stopped doing what they did to get themselves up and concentrated on doing the thing that sustained an already good list. The Tigers are still drafting in a really strong way so should ge a long run at it too.
They've made some horrible clangers. Mitch THorp. Beau Dowler.
They got really lucky having a priority pick and trading in a first rounder in a year that had a great top end, and little depth in the draft.
Lewis , Roughead and Franklin.
They built a competative team, as did StKilda.
They managed their salary cap so that they could leverage their high performances, becoming a destination club, trading in exactly the players they needed at the right times. Its finally caught up with them, but a 12 year window from a 2 year rebuild can't be considered bad.
Saints struggled to hold onto the players that they had , and as the team aged , were forced to replace the oldies with foot soldiers prepared to work for minimum wage.
Its debateable that our current position is stronger because we shipped off Goddard, DalSanto, and McEvoy.
We might have even made finals a few years ago if we hadn't.
Were we trying to be too clever?
I think 2 year rebuilds are a thing of the past now.
Both StKilda and Hawks used Priority picks to launch themselves back up. You really have to wonder how rampant the tanking was . 2 years??
It takes a special kind of talent to stuff up both the first and second pick . ( Melbourne almost did ).
1999 Hathorn 9th Saints 10th
2000: Hawthorn 8th. Saints 16th. ( Priority pick to Saints 2 games one in 2000).
2001: Hawthorn 6th. Saints 15th. ( Priority pick to Saints. Freo PP traded to Hawks ).
2002: Hawthorn 10th Saints 15th ( No Priority Pick)
2003: Hawks 9th Saints 11th.
2004: Hawks 15th Saints 3rd ( Priority pick to Hawks ).
2005: Hawks 14th Saints 4th ( Priority pick to Hawks ).
2006: Hawks 9th Saints 6th.
2007: Hawks 5th Saints 9th.
Now i'm going to suggest that a couple of first and second year players isn't the difference between an uncommunicative team and a competitive team.
Have Clark , Coffield, King and Battle improved us to a huge extent? Are they the difference between 15th sport and 5th spot?
There is a reason the AFL scrapped the priority pick system and it sure looks a hell of a lot like the Hawks took a 2 year dip to rebuild.
Its interesting that in 2007 ,a lot of Saints supporters were saying we were out of the window, after making finals for 3 years.
The Hawks have had a decade long window.
If you make finals , luck can go your way or against, if you don't you can't get lucky.