MillerCHF said:
You obviously didn't read a word of what I said. I specifically said an ARAB state or entity called Palestine.
What a load of quibbling cobblers you write. Your first statement was "what exactly is Palestine?" Now someone produces a nice map of Palestine for you, you quibble over how you mentioned an "ARAB state or entity". Given the Arabs have never managed an independent state in the region, there would hardly have ever been such a thing.
That does not mean that 1) Palestine does not exist or 2) the Arabs weren't there. I can't find any reference to a Jewish state called Israel in that area in the 2000 years leading up to 1948 either, so on your basis for saying Palestine doesn't exist, then neither should Israel. In fact, before 1948, the name Palestine was a more regularly used name than Israel, and if you want to quibble on that, perhaps you should be calling the area Canaan?
MillerCHF said:
What I said is not an opinion, it is a fact. It is the same as if I said there has never been a Jewish state or entity called Australia and then you google searched Australia and said 'look here it is'. You would be wrong because although there is a nation called Australia it isn't and never has been a Jewish state.
There was however an area called "Palestine". I showed you a map of it, and surprise, surprise it covered modern day Israel, the Gaza and West Bank. Since it was called Palestine
before the creation of Israel, the people that lived there (regardless of their ethnicity) had the right to call themselves Palestinian.
MillerCHF said:
When the 'Palestinians' talk of historical Palestine they are making it up.
Are they making it up any more than modern day Israel is making up a historical claim to the land? After all, the Jews left (were booted out, whatever) 2000 years ago. A slightly out of date claim if ever I heard one.
The Palestinians were living in the British mandate of Palestine before Israel came into being. They were even the majority of the population (although there are now more Jews), yet they got offered less of the land at the time.
Finally, as you know as well as everyone else, the Jews actually pioneered much of the type of terrorism used today by the Palestinians in an attempt to get a Jewish state in Palestine. Based upon the fact they got what they wanted, can you really blame the Palestinians for learning the lesson well and trying to apply it themselves?
MillerCHF said:
They never wanted a state and Jerusalem was never their capital. When the Jordanians ruled over East Jerusalem from 1948-67 it was the ********hole of the Kingdom. No Muslim dignitary visited because it was insignificant to them. Now that Israel rules it (and gives freedom of religion to all three monotheistic religions) the Palestinians suddenly want it as their capital. Well it aint gonna happen.
So because the
Jordanians didn't show interest in Jerusalem, the
Palestinans have no rights there? What a load of bull******** that is.
MillerCHF said:
How did you go with comprehension back in school Mr Q because I'm guessing you didn't too well?
You can twist what people say all you like Miller, but insulting me on that one ain't going to work. For a start I got the school English award in year 11, my Uni results in units relating to English were consistently high, and I've never got a mark less than an "A" from year 8 through to the end of my Uni career for an English based subject. I can play the semantics game as well.