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If he's not what we need, why would we target him? How much are we going to pay this player we don't need? How are we getting this extra first-rounder to trade?
Your suggested trade raises more questions than it answers.
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Your suggested trade raises more questions than it answers.
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The club will put an offer in if he does want to come home because he's an elite contested possession winner. I personally would target a young talented West Australian midfielder wanting to come home (Clark or Rivers). We'd be paying overs to get one of those young blokes as they're contracted and it's up to the club to let them leave. So the fallback position would be to try and pay unders for Cripps. Brander and our future 2022 first round pick. Carlton would howl and want extra picks but that's all I'd pay. No idea what extra first round pick you're talking about.
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As well as a contract worth $4 million over 5 years, minimum. Not sure why you think that's worth doing if you think Cripps is not the player we need/want.
There are rules requiring us to use a certain amount of first-round selections over a four-year period.
We used no first-rounders in 2018, 2019 or 2020. So we'd use a first-rounder in 2021 and trade out our first-rounder for 2022? That would amount to a single first-round selection in the space of five years, which theoretically breaches the AFL guidelines.
So in order to do the deal you've suggested, we'd need to find an extra first-rounder from somewhere to meet the minimum requirement. So you'd be trading out Brander and whatever else is required to obtain that extra first-round pick for a player you don't reckon we need?
The way Carlton are going, the basic FA compensation might be more attractive than that but presumably they'd still want more.
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Surely it was be $800k and five years at least.
And what would you give up in a trade on top of that? Three first-rounders given Richmond's are likely to be late teens in 2021 named 2022? You've got Geelong's this year as well and that will probably be 12-14 at this rate.
Brander is a spud. Allen and a first rounder.
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One of the best KPF's for a banged-up midfielder. If Allen was going there would be no 1st rounder.
Actually, what would the Blues be sending us back instead?
One of the best KPFs?
He’s not even in the top 2 at your club. There are probably 20 KPF ahead of Allen
Mitch Mcgoverns contract.
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No shame sitting behind 2 bona fide champions of the game who are both All Australians.
He'd be in every team's starting 18 bar none and be your best forward.
I'd like to see your list of the 20 players ahead of him.
Walker
Hipwood
Daniher
Mckay
Taberner
Hawkins
Cameron
B King
Brown
Dixon
Lynch
Riewoldt
M King
Franklin
Kennedy
Darling
Naughton
Bruce
So 18 who I think are better right now than Allen.
And no McKay is comfortably better than Allen who is lucky to be the third tall in a gun forward line.
Not sure if you're aware but Freo people aren't really a fan of anything West Coast but there's maybe 7 forwards on that list that are worth more than Oscar.
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He didn’t say who is worth more, because age is obviously a factor.
But I stand by everyone on that list is a bigger individual threat right now than Allen.
Cool. Lucky we aren't on the Draft and Trade board or anything.
How is that relevant?
If he's been playing injured for two years how does that not effect his value? He either can't get his body right or has been mismanaged and could have ongoing issues because of this regardless.
It's amusing that you think that it wouldn't effect his value.
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common knowledge...he did his shoulder in the final game
also common knowledge, you dont play your players in a meaningless end of season game when they require post season reconstructive surgery in an already reduced off season timeframe
so which of these two is it? Either both he and your club were stupid imbeciles for not sending him in for surgery...OR...he was just bang average
I'd take him as an RFA...that's the max...no picks or anything back the other way
and it wouldn't be on anything more than 3 possibly 4 years at good money, not Fyfe money.
If he or Carlton don't like that, tough t***ies
His body is a concern, and I feel we'd be better off using our first on a KPF or an elite mid who could get us 15 years of service not 3-4
and it wouldn't be on anything more than 3 possibly 4 years at good money, not Fyfe money.
If he or Carlton don't like that, tough t***ies
His body is a concern, and I feel we'd be better off using our first on a KPF or an elite mid who could get us 15 years of service not 3-4
It's the last line for me. We are clearly not contending and no guarantee to do so in the next couple of years. So what we don't want is to spend bulk capital on a bloke that will be past his best when we get going.
Draft, draft, draft.
The 2 x 1st rounders that Richmond have look like being late picks #14+
The compo pick if carlton dont go well could be top 5/6 and be of better value
But we might be able to d a side deal just for some sugar ontop
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That's why you'd probably have to add a future first-rounder.
I personally dont think Cripps would leave for any club 'Unless' He feels he can no longer lead the club to success and would be best for both he and the club to move.
He would then be looking for either go back to perth or to club where he may win a flag
But i do remember Cripps and Riewoldt were extremely close in the AFLX series and there have been some recent chatter with Cotchin
