Player Watch Patrick Lipinski

[sr36]

Sorry mate I was being sarcastic - just playing on the hysterical vitriol here, that’s invariably directed at Hine with any recruitment issue.

Anzac was being smutty.

 

[Anzacday]

Anzac was being smutty.

I thought it was just numerous

 

[Finnishpie]

Started his Collingwood career with a bang, then had a bad game, and since then has been pretty solid consistent and serviceable. Early days but he’s easily best 22 at this point in time.

Best 22 but bottom 10 of that 22. With some continuity hoping h becomes reliably good. Not expecting him to rise to the elite though.

 

[Kappa]

You can be sure someone’s going to finger Hine for the stuff up.

You're clearly over 40...

 

[sr36]

You're clearly over 40...

As someone over that age, it was much more commonly used in that sense in the 70s and 80s than it is now.

 

[Kappa]

As someone over that age, it was much more commonly used in that sense in the 70s and 80s than it is now.

Well maybe he just didn't get out much...

 

[BEEG]

Feels like Josh Daicos

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Josh Daicos

Age

27

Ht

178cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.6

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

7.3

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.6

5star

MG

230.5

4star

D

16.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.5

4star

MG

230.5

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

4.2

5star

is getting a lot of his touches.

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

There were comments earlier comparing Lipinski to Lockyer. Now for me Lockyer is probably in the top 30-40 players over the last 25 years. Slightly behind players like OBrien, Maxwell, Prestigiacomo and Elliott but slightly in front of players like Toovey, Goldsack and Reid. For me Lockyer is level with players like Ben Johnson, Leon Davis

Leon Davis

Age

44

Ht

177cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.5

3star

K

10.2

4star

HB

3.3

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

1.2

4star

No current season stats available

D

5.0

1star

K

3.6

2star

HB

1.4

2star

M

1.2

2star

T

0.4

3star

G

0.4

3star

and Shane Wakelin

Shane Wakelin

Age

51

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

10.8

3star

K

8.2

4star

HB

2.6

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

0.8

3star

. Great player and if Lipinski gets close to that I would be very happy.

 

[Jen2310]

I was saying to someone at the game. With Lippa its quality over quantity. Like that kick to the middle to Grundy. Not something anyone would be able to do.

And thats what he is good at. I don't think we need to analyse every single game he has, good or bad.

 

[sr36]

There were comments earlier comparing Lipinski to Lockyer. Now for me Lockyer is probably in the top 30-40 players over the last 25 years. Slightly behind players like OBrien, Maxwell, Prestigiacomo and Elliott but slightly in front of players like Toovey, Goldsack and Reid. For me Lockyer is level with players like Ben Johnson, Leon Davis and Shane Wakelin. Great player and if Lipinski gets close to that I would be very happy.

I started the Lockyer comparison - but I was thinking more about skillsets than level of performance. However, I didn't rate Lockyer anywhere near as highly as you, so I think Lockyer is achievable for Lipinski.

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

I started the Lockyer comparison - but I was thinking more about skillsets than level of performance. However, I didn't rate Lockyer anywhere near as highly as you, so I think Lockyer is achievable for Lipinski.

Fair enough in terms of the rating. He was a favourite of mine despite loosing contests at times. Most of us remember the Farmer incident. Neat player and he played over 200 games. If he had managed to make it into the 2010 team he would be remembered much more fondly.

 

[sr36]

Fair enough in terms of the rating. He was a favourite of mine despite loosing contests at times. Most of us remember the Farmer incident. Neat player and he played over 200 games. If he had managed to make it into the 2010 team he would be remembered much more fondly.

Bloody neat player in a time when we were a shambles.

 

[BEEG]

Yeah 20 touches from Lip will hurt teams more then 40 from Crisp.

Would just like him to get 6/7 more touches a game sit around that 26 touches per games.

 

[ClaytonM]

Yeah 20 touches from Lip will hurt teams more then 40 from Crisp.

Would just like him to get 6/7 more touches a game sit around that 26 touches per games.

Not sure I agree with that. I think Lip is more consistent in disposal quality, but some of Crisp’s disposals following his drive through the midfield are terrific. His goal on the weekend an example.

You don’t ge that dash from Lip.

 

[sideswipe]

You're clearly over 40...

The finger of blame is an over 40s thing?


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[WalterBlaknWhte]

Now for me Lockyer is probably in the top 30-40 players over the last 25 years… but slightly in front of players like….Reid.

Nice to see you on BF, Tarkyn

There is no way you are in front of All Australian KPP Ben Reid

 

[Scodog10]

Its not a knock on Lipinski just pointing out using a stat that is right at the extremes of the range is one thats not likely to be reproduced no matter what

I realise that and given your past comments on Lipinski I took it as such. For me it’s by a bit like a guy kicking 12 goals in a half of footy then the opposition switching defenders and he gets 3 in the second half. He literally set the AFL record for the most disposals in a half the only way from there is down.

My “knock” is my own because I have higher expectations of him than what he’s currently offering, he doesn’t look busy enough, he isn’t getting to enough contests for an endurance beast and he outwardly looks to be drifting through matches. Perhaps as frizzle pointed out it’s about role and he’s not suited to an inside one, but his career to date suggests switching things up could be a slippery slope.

FWIW his numbers aren’t bad they just aren’t good over the past month and with the way he plays he needs it 6-8 more times a game to be a good contributor or better (that takes him to roughly 25p, 8-10cp, 6cl, 5I50’s and @75%DE). Think a Duncan or Mundy type, but I can only suggest that time will help him bridge that gap. If he can that is. Also for the sake of clarity the numbers I just quoted are my expectations of a locked and loaded full time mid in the type of team we want to become.

 

[Anzacday]

Think a Duncan or Mundy type

Duncan is a great comparison.
If he can raise his game to that level I’ll be very happy.

 

[Scodog10]

Duncan is a great comparison.
If he can raise his game to that level I’ll be very happy.

Same for me. It’s a high bar, but he’s not that far off currently that it’s unobtainable and we know his best is good enough. Maybe it’s as simple as him finding that best effort every 5-6 weeks in 2022 to elevate himself again.

 

[sr36]

In terms of viewing round 1 as a bar and how well he went on the inside against the Saints, it should be remembered that they had most of their mids out that game.

 

[neilk]

The finger of blame is an over 40s thing?


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The fickle finger of fate?

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

Nice to see you on BF, Tarkyn

There is no way you are in front of All Australian KPP Ben Reid

Reid always had more talent in fact he would be top 5 for the pies over the last 25 years, but he just never stringed it together due to injury apart from 2010-13. Loved him as a player but he did cost us the 2011 grand final not that it was his fault but maybe my subconscious cant forgive him. But I can understand why most would rate him above Lockyer. If I had to list them in order from best to worst players over the last 25 years they would be in a very similar space.

 

[Abdul_The_Bull]

I was saying to someone at the game. With Lippa its quality over quantity. Like that kick to the middle to Grundy. Not something anyone would be able to do.

And thats what he is good at. I don't think we need to analyse every single game he has, good or bad.

Agreed. Lippa is being asked to perform a more inside mid role whereas I feel his talent is more suited as an outside mid. His hands are elite and I rate him. My only slight on him is that he appears to dislike the 'rough stuff'. I would have him in my best 22 every week, though.

 

[TW Sherrin]

Reid always had more talent in fact he would be top 5 for the pies over the last 25 years, but he just never stringed it together due to injury apart from 2010-13. Loved him as a player but he he did cost us the 2011 grand final not that it was his fault but maybe my subconscious cant forgive him. But I can understand why most would rate him above Lockyer. If I had to list them in order from best to worst players over the last 25 years they would be in a very similar space.

top 5? that's a big call.

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

top 5? that's a big call.

On the edge of the top 5 if he didn't have the issues he had. Pendles, Buckley, Swan, Cloke, Burns, Clement, A Rocca, Williams near the bottom of this list of players.
For sure he had the talent of Moore/Rance he was just made of glass. Great intercept marking, very good 1v1, beautiful left footed kick with penetration, accuracy and fantastic leg speed. He was very much like Moore (has an opportunity to be top 5 as well).