MRP / Trib. Paul Curtis

[DocSholl]

He isn't square in his back in that image though

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Get Jimmy on the commission.
Speaking common sense that's sorely lacking at AFL HQ.

 

[Lingsface]

This is the worst suspension I have ever seen, disgraceful.

 

[TheKanga]

This has been an epic 24 hour melt. How much longer do you think you have in you?

It's very entertaining.

I'll ruffle some port feathers anyday

 

[TheKanga]

Get Jimmy on the commission.
Speaking common sense that's sorely lacking at AFL HQ.

Jimmy is a great operator
Totally agree

 

[THECHIEFTON]

This is the worst suspension I have ever seen, disgraceful.

It's close but you forgot Mansell just got 3 weeks for absolutely nothing.

 

[PiCkLeJuiCe]

The automatic 3 weeks is the problem here.

 

[Quinz]

The tribunal is hamstrung by its own rules. This can’t be a one week ban under the guidelines, so you either give it 3 which is manifestly excessive or you give it zero which goes against their goal of removing dangerous tackling actions in the game (if indeed this tackle falls into that category)

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Lay a legal tackle and if he doesn’t get injured you’re fine.

Lay the exact same legal tackle and if he gets injured you’re banned.

Correct, just like if you choose to bump, if you choose to pin the arms in a tackle and take a player to ground and get it wrong you’ll be penalized.

 

[XhazzafootyX]

Surely the butler tackle on Blakey in 2023 is the precedent

 

[Makeshift Park]

Get Jimmy on the commission.
Speaking common sense that's sorely lacking at AFL HQ.

Hirdy and Bartel have this quaint notion that what's important here is what's good for the players, the fans and the game.

Talk about starting with the wrong assumption!

C'mon guys, what decisions have you seen from head office in the past decade that give you any sense that the interests of the players, the fans and the game are priorities?

 

[DocSholl]

Correct, just like if you choose to bump, if you choose to pin the arms in a tackle and take a player to ground and get it wrong you’ll be penalized.

It's a bit different though in the sense that the person getting tackled can also take certain actions to win a free kick which increase the chances of a bad outcome (ie - dropping knees, falling forward). Less so with a bump.

 

[DamoESP]

Hope the Roos fight this and he gets off. Nothing in it and only copped weeks due to the outcome, which is a stupid system but the one the AFL seem to insist on sticking with....

 

[HirdsTheWord]

not sure what else the bloke is supposed to do. it actually looked as if he tried to roll him in the tackle.

looked like a fair tackle that just had a bad result.

shame he will get weeks for this.....its a dumb system that just cannot accept that concussions are sometimes unavoidable part of contact sports.

 

[Makeshift Park]

If the tribunal system retained any skerrick of credibility, you'd think this is precisely the kind of case where the "manifestly excessive penalty" grounds for appeal applies, and yet, we are well past that point.

 

[Mr5000]

Arms pinned, did not roll to the side until Sinns head smacked the turf.

I'd give it 5 weeks but 3 sill suffice

 

[PerthBoy86]

This is changing something fundamental of the game. Players will be scared to lay tackles, compromising the spectacle. As goofy as it looks, maybe investing in better protective headware might be the answer. Like it won't be a guarantee, but might help.

 

[DocSholl]

The AFL should really just ban pinning both arms as a tackling technique and be done with it.

Otherwise you just get a farcial situation where one player is fronting the tribunal tomorrow night, while the AFL's own twitter account is promoting another tackle where the arms were pinned and the player driven forward, but Reid was strong enough to prevent his head smacking the ground.

 

[shintemaster]

The AFL should really just ban pinning both arms as a tackling technique and be done with it.

Otherwise you just get a farcial situation where one player is fronting the tribunal tomorrow night, while the AFL's own twitter account is promoting another tackle where the arms were pinned and the player driven forward, but Reid was strong enough to prevent his head smacking the ground.

There's an argument to be had as to whether overly generous "knocked out" in tackle or "made an attempt" interpretations on HTB add to the likelihood of this in a way that is counterproductive to safety. Players being rewarded for a good tackle without easy options to let the ball go might see a reset on technique. (ie you get someone dead to rights you only have to tackle one arm to earn a free kick).

 

[roomagic1984]

He performed the exact same tackle at least 2 other times in that game.
So why wasn’t he cited for those tackles?
Because it’s outcome based and North should make this point even if the ban does not get overturned and force the AFL to respond.

 

[Mr5000]

He performed the exact same tackle at least 2 other times in that game.
So why wasn’t he cited for those tackles?
Because it’s outcome based and North should make this point even if the ban does not get overturned and force the AFL to respond.

So he has a technique issue?

 

[shintemaster]

So he has a technique issue?

Not as big as your reading comprehension one.

 

[Rabish Binney]

If it was Josh Daicos

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Josh Daicos

Age

27

Ht

178cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.6

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

7.3

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.6

5star

MG

230.5

4star

D

16.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.5

4star

MG

230.5

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

4.2

5star

instead of Paul Curtis, would the same penalty apply?

 

[Stax on the mill]

If it was Josh Daicos instead of Paul Curtis, would the same penalty apply?

Wouldn’t have even been looked at if it was Rory Laird instead of Paul Curtis.

 

[Maddo11]

Going to be hard to over turn, based on the wording of the rule



Pretty clear example of the third point.

I reckon North might try arguing that taking both arms in a tackle from behind is not unreasonable, and find vision of Curtis laying similar tackles where they don't flip forward because of their knees getting stuck in the turf.