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Dannnnnnnnnn said:
So after a minor heart attack caused by the monitor not receiving input from the PC at all - a problem solved by realising that I hadn't connected the CPU to power :drunk: - it's built and booted. :thumbsu: Will sort pics out once I've installed everything, but suffice to say it is extremely sexy.
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Don't half ass this, if the cable management is sloppy you'll get an F. :p
 

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BotsMaster said:
Looking at upgrading my 670 to either a 1060, 1070 or 1080 for...PROJECT CARS II.

Unless someone tells me those games will run fine on the 670 then I won't upgrade at all :p
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it depends on what settings you're after. i am still on 1080p, but even then the 1080 can't push 60fps 100% of the time, if everything is turned all the way up (though, some of that might be due to my aging CPU). with SSAA on ultra + night racing + heavy rain, it gets down to ~45, which is pretty noticeable in a racing game. if you can handle lower AA settings (which honestly i don't recommend, the aliasing is pretty severe in pcars2) then the 1060 is the obvious bang for buck card. but if you're running higher resolutions than 1080p and want more choice when it comes to settings, then one of the others is my recommendation.
 
Dannnnnnnnnn said:
Having a hell of a time with Windows Update not working, about to try MS support chat. I swear Windows devices just reserve all their issues for me, it's like they know I prefer OS X.
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What sort of Windows did you get? OEM? Full/transferable license? Was it just the ISO downloaded to a USB stick? Strange you're having an issue with the update. Most people have issues trying to get it to not automatically update. Sounds silly but have you checked you're definitely signed in with a Microsoft account and Windows is licensed to it?
 
dwwaino said:
What sort of Windows did you get? OEM? Full/transferable license? Was it just the ISO downloaded to a USB stick? Strange you're having an issue with the update. Most people have issues trying to get it to not automatically update. Sounds silly but have you checked you're definitely signed in with a Microsoft account and Windows is licensed to it?
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I used the Windows media tool to create a bootable USB and got an OEM license. The Windows 10 installation wasn't much of a hassle after I used a different USB. I then connected to Internet etc and started Windows Update. Most of it updated fine, but the 1703 Windows update just kept taking forever, then failing, then telling me to retry, then taking forever, then my PC would turn off (which she says is a drivers/outdated Windows issue which will be fixed in the process) and the process would start all over again.

Initially she tried to run the installation as I had been attempting it and the PC shut down. Then on retry, it failed. She then tried to manually install that update - PC shut down twice. After that, tried running the update in safe mode but I had no internet access. She instructed me to go into config and check the "network" box in safe boot, but it was already checked. So we went back to normal mode...and the PC booted back into safe mode. :D

From there, we got back to normal mode, and she tried about four times to download drivers which she believes are causing the shut downs - each time, the PC shut down before she could download them. Eventually she gave up and now I'm on another PC creating a bootable USB again. She underestimated my shitty internet though, and it's now taking forever, haha.

Like I said, Windows devices reserve all their issues for me. And this lady from MS support is an absolute trooper.
 
Haha don't worry, I screwed up my last windows install. Did the same thing by putting the ISO on USB. My new SSD was in the wrong format which is an easy fix from a command prompt during installation. I did a 'clean' on all the drives.... including the USB. While it gave a message that it couldn't be done from the drive that the system was booting from it still done enough damage that the stick is no longer readable. Can't even delete the partition or format it from disk management. In the end I had to install from my windows 8.1 OEM CD (luckily I hadn't upgraded the motherboard!) then update it to 10 after. I don't trust myself not to do it again and that's why next time I'm going to shell the extra for an actual CD again lol.

Not sure with your issue. I'm shocking at trying to help without being able to actually see it myself or at least knowing your exact configuration.
 

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The saga rolls on.

The lady I was previously connected to disconnected whilst I downloaded/installed the boot media, and gave me a link to reconnect with her once I was done. The link connected me with a different agent, so I asked to be reconnected with the previous one, but apparently she was unavailable. So I had to update her, and wait while she reviewed all the case notes.

Long story short, new one is hopeless. She first began by trying to get me to create a boot USB when I'd already told her that it had been done. Here is a further sample of her finest work:
"Please boot the PC"
"Should I enter boot mode?"
"No"
"No worries, it has booted."
"Do you see setup screen?"
"... no, I didn't enter boot mode"
"Please boot from USB"

And that's without including any mangled English. Sigh.
 
dwwaino said:
Kind of sounds like you’re running out of juice. PSU set to 240v and graphics card connector pins plugged in?
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When the PC shuts down the leds that stay on when the PC is off remain on the whole time, which I was taking as an indication that it's not a power thing.

I haven't changed any settings on the PSU.
 
The back of the PSUs generally have a 110/220v switch. Most mobo lights would probably remain lit regardless. I just can’t think of a software issue off the top of my head that would be causing this and just wondering if it’s something as stupid as something isn’t plugged in. Check those connectors, especially the ones going to the graphics card :p I’m not sure how much power a PCI slot can deliver or if it’s even possible but way way back in the AGP days I chucked in a card and didn’t plug in the power cable properly. It still booted to desktop but crashed and just reminded me of your situation.
 
dwwaino said:
The back of the PSUs generally have a 110/220v switch. Most mobo lights would probably remain lit regardless. I just can’t think of a software issue off the top of my head that would be causing this and just wondering if it’s something as stupid as something isn’t plugged in. Check those connectors, especially the ones going to the graphics card :p I’m not sure how much power a PCI slot can deliver or if it’s even possible but way way back in the AGP days I chucked in a card and didn’t plug in the power cable properly. It still booted to desktop but crashed and just reminded me of your situation.
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It all looks plugged in to me and the only thing I can see on the PSU is on/off and ECO on/off switches.

I'll probably get Scorptec to give it a once over if I have no luck with MS Support later today. The first lady I spoke to who was working on it for just under two hours was "110%" it was a software issue and I've seen at least one other person have issues with shut downs while downloading the 1703 update, so I'm hoping they can get to the bottom of it.
 

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Gold Member said:
Can you just avoid the 1703 update in the interim?

I'll check my machine tonight to see what version I'm on.
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Two issues with that:
  1. I was already having issues with Windows Update before that particular update, which MS Support say is due to the 1703 update and display drivers not being installed.
  2. A lot of the solutions they can try include reinstalling Windows etc, which obviously means losing all data, so I would prefer not to progress too far before this is fixed.
 
dwwaino

Back on with Support, she just sent me this:
"Couldn't disagree with the previous Technically random shutting down of pc are caused by :
•Outdated Windows
•Incorrectly configured, old, or corrupted device drivers. (very common)
•Corruption in Windows registry from a recent software change (install or uninstall).
•Virus or malware infection that has corrupted Windows system files or Windows Operating System-related program files.
•Driver conflict after installing new hardware.
•Damaged or removed system files after you’ve installed software or drivers related to Windows Operating System."

So definitely sounds like the sort of thing they deal with fairly regularly.

The 1703 Windows build is installed now, at least - I'm running Update now to see if I get the same issue.
 
Fingers crossed!

Hoping I don’t have any dramas with mine. 8700k stock is really short so if I have no luck (hopefully the shops activate the listings at midnight) then I’m going to be waiting for a little while longer until next shipment :straining: just my luck I’ll get the CPU in my cart but I won’t be able to get the Asus Maximus X Hero board I want. Out of the Z370 launch boards that’s the one I’m set on and if I can’t get it that’s going to be a deal breaker until I can. If I miss out maybe they’ll release the Z370 version of the Maximus Code by then. The Hero will do anyway :cool:.
 
dwwaino said:
Fingers crossed!

Hoping I don’t have any dramas with mine. 8700k stock is really short so if I have no luck (hopefully the shops activate the listings at midnight) then I’m going to be waiting for a little while longer until next shipment :straining: just my luck I’ll get the CPU in my cart but I won’t be able to get the Asus Maximus X Hero board I want. Out of the Z370 launch boards that’s the one I’m set on and if I can’t get it that’s going to be a deal breaker until I can. If I miss out maybe they’ll release the Z370 version of the Maximus Code by then. The Hero will do anyway :cool:.
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I understood about nine words in that post but good luck building your rocket to the moon, Spaceman.
 

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