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hirdylloydy1 said:
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Saw an earlier version of his list with this card in it, alarm bells went off as it has caused me so much trouble. Although im pretty sure the 6700XT has the exact same problem. Its not a small coil whine that you think you could ignore. Its incredibly loud. I would reccomend staying away from the asus dual amd cards
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That sucks. Just looking around and I don't see any other dual fan versions that would fit a micro ATX build? If there are no other options it might be still ok to roll the dice as it doesn't affect performance (after 20 years in electric motors I could tell exactly what it is and why if anyone wants to be bored to death) it's just a matter of tolerance.
 
Supersuns said:
Whats the 144hz 4K monitor market looking like atm? Would like an upgrade.
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What size and budget? 28 inch range is swamped with everything using the same Innolux IPS panel. Gigabyte M28U, Samsung G7 (standard G7, not the Odyssey), ASUS TUF vg28 etc and can be bought from anywhere from $700'ish to $1000. LG have just refreshed their Ultragear range and the 27GR93U is $899. Depending on what you're after they might be a hard sell considering what's available in 1440p. When I was recently looking for a good 4K second monitor for UE5/dev stuff and a bit of gaming when I don't want to use my ultrawide, I was happy to spend the money but found all those monitors disappointing for that price. Since Samsung are trying to push the latest 32" Neo Odyssey G8 they're trying to clear Odyssey G7 stock so I grabbed that. 4K VA, 10 bit with over 1000 dimming zones so it can do real HDR and 165hz. It's not Gsync certified but I can confirm it's definitely compatible. The $1299 might still be too much depending on what you want to spend but it's $300 off and once they go only the much more expensive G8 will be available. I love my OLED ultrawide but getting sold on 4K. Once OLED starts rolling out in good high refresh 32" 4K panels I may consider converting to full time 4K.

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hirdylloydy1 said:
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The MSI version is fine and still a dual fan
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Haven't gone through the purchase yet, so this is still an option. Is it compatible with the rest of the build I had set up? If it's a matter of just switch in/switch out and costs aren't too crazy, I could swap it on my scorptec build.

Edit: Failing that, would there be 1 or two smaller upgrades I could do to motherboard/cpu/psu to allow a switch to a different graphics card?
 
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Mitho said:
Haven't gone through the purchase yet, so this is still an option. Is it compatible with the rest of the build I had set up? If it's a matter of just switch in/switch out and costs aren't too crazy, I could swap it on my scorptec build.

Edit: Failing that, would there be 1 or two smaller upgrades I could do to motherboard/cpu/psu to allow a switch to a different graphics card?
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Any graphics card of any make or model will fit. Every graphics card plugs into the same slot on every motherboard.

The only time you would have to consider a different motherboard is if you change your CPU to a different socket but don't worry about this and it can be a lesson for another day.
 
dwwaino said:
Any graphics card of any make or model will fit. Every graphics card plugs into the same slot on every motherboard.

The only time you would have to consider a different motherboard is if you change your CPU to a different socket but don't worry about this and it can be a lesson for another day.
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Youre a very patient man dwwaino. I'l look up later how bad the coil whine is on the 6700
 
dwwaino said:
In that case no brainer. Pcie lanes are more to do with the architecture but I don't think Intel has anything comparable?

On the CPU subject I'm starting to see the importance of L3. Never been a big deal but if more AAA continue to release as unoptimised as many have this year then a big L3 like on the Ryzen X3D models is going to be almost required for any high end build. I can't believe my 5900x has been the bottleneck on my 4080 due to L3 of all things.
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The L3 cache is also the biggest performance booster for Flight Simulator, FS 2020 is basically ported DX11 code from FS X (came out in 2009?) that they are slowly working on converting to DX12.

So the cache does a hell of a lot of heavy lifting for performance.

PS if you want a decent benchmark, load FS 2020 with maximum graphics at LAX , in the middle of the day and say hello to FPS in the 10-25 range.
 
Mitho said:
Youre a very patient man dwwaino. I'l look up later how bad the coil whine is on the 6700
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No worries. Building is fun. We enjoy helping with it because it's something we only get to do every few years ourselves so always happy to experience it vicariously 😛. I can't really comment on how noisy the coil whine on that particular 6700 is because I've never heard it. I don't know if playing with headphones on drowns it out (I've had systems with noisy fans but couldn't hear it with headphones so didn't care) or if it's just some cases amplify and make some noises worse.


And just to demystify it all a bit I looked up the motherboard on the Scorptec build and just scrubbled where everything goes. It's like Lego but everything only goes in one spot. The power scribbles are where you connect the plugs from the power supply, the CPU has a little arrow on it that aligns with another arrow on the slot for correct orientation, when using two sticks of RAM make sure to use the slots 1 and 3, the M.2 slots should be under that cover with 3 screws and the only thing you would need to look up in the motherboard manual is where the fan for the CPU fan plugs into (called a CPU fan header).

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dwwaino said:
No worries. Building is fun. We enjoy helping with it because it's something we only get to do every few years ourselves so always happy to experience it vicariously 😛.
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No it isn't, and I absolutely hate building computers thank you.

PTSD is what I have
 
sataris said:
The L3 cache is also the biggest performance booster for Flight Simulator, FS 2020 is basically ported DX11 code from FS X (came out in 2009?) that they are slowly working on converting to DX12.

So the cache does a hell of a lot of heavy lifting for performance.

PS if you want a decent benchmark, load FS 2020 with maximum graphics at LAX , in the middle of the day and say hello to FPS in the 10-25 range.
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I actually sort of get this for something like Flight Simulator and if it were an outlier I'd understand and accept it. Take Jedi Survivor though. It's a run of the mill UE4 release. Lately there have been a string of UE4 releases with stuttering due to shader compilation and there have been novel ways to preload shaders to prevent this (rather than proper optimisation using texture atlases and stuff). Respawn haven't admitted anything yet but have obviously tinkered with the engine's graphics API because the game simply loads a single core to 100% so even my 4080 will sit at only 50-60% load regardless of graphic settings. The only proven way to increase performance is with a bigger L3 rather than allowing multi-threaded load. I hope that doesn't become more common because it's stupid and imo actually incompetent development.
 
dwwaino said:
I actually sort of get this for something like Flight Simulator and if it were an outlier I'd understand and accept it. Take Jedi Survivor though. It's a run of the mill UE4 release. Lately there have been a string of UE4 releases with stuttering due to shader compilation and there have been novel ways to preload shaders to prevent this (rather than proper optimisation using texture atlases and stuff). Respawn haven't admitted anything yet but have obviously tinkered with the engine's graphics API because the game simply loads a single core to 100% so even my 4080 will sit at only 50-60% load regardless of graphic settings. The only proven way to increase performance is with a bigger L3 rather than allowing multi-threaded load. I hope that doesn't become more common because it's stupid and imo actually incompetent development.
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Oh yeah, I totally forgot that FS 2020 also doesn't really support multi-threading...

Just mind boggling.
 

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32" 4K OLED is coming in 2024. ASUS have revealed a 240hz panel and I'm sure a bunch of QD-OLED Samsung panels will come mid-later next year. I love my AW3423DW but I will definitely consider switching to 4K OLED. The reason I've always been keen on 3440*1440 ultrawide is because it's nearly the same 4K horizontal real estate but less vertical so more performance, but my new 32" Neo Odyssey G7 is well and truly selling me on 4K and hardware is more than 4K capable now. Though as good as the true HDR is on the Neo G7, it still gets absolutely stomped by the AW3423DW OLED.
 
dwwaino said:
32" 4K OLED is coming in 2024. ASUS have revealed a 240hz panel and I'm sure a bunch of QD-OLED Samsung panels will come mid-later next year. I love my AW3423DW but I will definitely consider switching to 4K OLED. The reason I've always been keen on 3440*1440 ultrawide is because it's nearly the same 4K horizontal real estate but less vertical so more performance, but my new 32" Neo Odyssey G7 is well and truly selling me on 4K and hardware is more than 4K capable now. Though as good as the true HDR is on the Neo G7, it still gets absolutely stomped by the AW3423DW OLED.
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I think I will get in on that action too. I'm still using the Acer X34P, still love it mind you, but we have similar taste in screens and 5 years is a good run.
 
Done a couple of upgrades since buying a prebuild during covid.

B450m motherboard to X570s.
Ryzen 5 2600 to Ryzen 7 5700x
Doubled DDR4 ram from 2x 8gb 3600mhz to 4x 8gb 3600mhz
Radeon 5500xt to Radeon RX 6700xt


Essentially pushes what was a $1400 system during covid to about as far as the AM4 platform can go. Leaving the eventual leap to AM5 to be many years down the track once things have become cheaper as the technology matures.

What made me start the upgrade was randomly seeing a brand new in box AMD founders edition 6700xt on ebay for just $380. My 5500xt on the 2nd hand market alone is worth more, which when I sold it meant I upgraded that part for a profit, and have had a friend working in the computer industry verify the card is a legit founders edition card and not a scam.

The ram was because my b450 was an ITX board with 2 dimm slots. So going to 4 meant adding some cheap ram wouldn't hurt.

Managed to get $90 selling the 2600 cpu. $480 selling the 5500xt and haven't even bothered considering selling the B450 board.
 
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Got myself a new 4tb SSD during the week (deal posted on ozbargain last week)
But now I can't decide to add it and replace the secondary SSD drive that I purchased 2 years ago for my main gaming laptop.
Or add it to the laptop I recently got back in July.

Should have just purchased 2x of them and made the decision less stressful :P
 
PC ordered lads. Have a mate from work assisting with the OS install once it's ready to go. Now onto a monitor.

Was looking at this one, but can't find the same one at scorptec (ideally I'd like to get one from there so I can pick it up once the build is done)


Another mate suggested this one?

 
Mitho said:
PC ordered lads. Have a mate from work assisting with the OS install once it's ready to go. Now onto a monitor.

Was looking at this one, but can't find the same one at scorptec (ideally I'd like to get one from there so I can pick it up once the build is done)


Another mate suggested this one?

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Excellent! What did you finally decide to go with for your rig?

Monitors both look good but I have no experience with them. See if rtings.com or hardware unboxed (monitors unboxed) has done reviews on them.

Both those resources usually have a pretty up to date list of recommended monitors.
 
I have absolutely no experience with that brand of monitor but it ticks all the boxes on paper. I wonder who manufacturers the panel because then it's possible to just look at reviews of other brands using the same one.

Let me know if you need a Windows 11 Home key because I have one that I'm 99.9999999999999999*% sure should work.

Also as per rules of the board, I am demanding build photos.
 

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