Analysis Peel Thunder 2015 (TV schedule in OP)

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It sounds to me that the match committee chose to play too many talls and our wonderful coach placed them evenly all over the ground .
Good to see Dawson finally back from injury but he will take at least 4 or 5 games to get match fitness levels.
Playing 3 ruckmen ,3 tall defenders and taking Weller out of the midfield did the trick for Shepard .
Purple did you get a chance to go onto the ground and listen to Shepard talk to the team and if so what were your impressions.
 

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Guys the report in the Sunday time mentioned some young kids Ryan Lim and Francis Watson .
Lim through the midfield and Watson off the half back. Ledger( ex St Kilda ) got good press as well .
Is anyone going to the Derby . It should be a good game .
 

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Guys the report in the Sunday time mentioned some young kids Ryan Lim and Francis Watson .
Lim through the midfield and Watson off the half back. Ledger( ex St Kilda ) got good press as well .
Is anyone going to the Derby . It should be a good game .
Coulda, I generally stay away from the coaches ar 3/4 time when Peel are getting spanked. Past experiences tell me it can be very unrewarding. Claremont had plenty of tall timber in the forward line so there was a tiny bit of justification for Peel playing 3 talls in the backline. The problem was that Dawson was completely out of form, Hurley was rubbish and Tanner was good 1 minute and crap the next. If you throw in a unusually quiet bootsma, then you have 4 ineffectual players inside D50 opposed to the rampant and fleet footed Claremont mids and small forwards. Having said that, the game was won and lost in the midfield as usual.
Lim was very prolific and has a nice long kick on him but I thought Watson was the pick of the Tigers in terms of raw talent, although he is slightly built and he doesn't seem to me to to be the sort that could put on muscle. It was a bruise free game of footy so it's hard to judge how good the more prolific Tigers were.
 

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Coulda, I generally stay away from the coaches ar 3/4 time when Peel are getting spanked. Past experiences tell me it can be very unrewarding. Claremont had plenty of tall timber in the forward line so there was a tiny bit of justification for Peel playing 3 talls in the backline. The problem was that Dawson was completely out of form, Hurley was rubbish and Tanner was good 1 minute and crap the next. If you throw in a unusually quiet bootsma, then you have 4 ineffectual players inside D50 opposed to the rampant and fleet footed Claremont mids and small forwards. Having said that, the game was won and lost in the midfield as usual.
Lim was very prolific and has a nice long kick on him but I thought Watson was the pick of the Tigers in terms of raw talent, although he is slightly built and he doesn't seem to me to to be the sort that could put on muscle. It was a bruise free game of footy so it's hard to judge how good the more prolific Tigers were.
As far as I could tell Tanner was put onto McAdam, who is 181cm. Hurley who is still learning, was put on to Bradley (reserves 2 weeks ago and then onto Bradley this week). Bootsma who is 193 cm and 77kg was put on Beau Meister rather than allowing Tanner to play on someone appropriate to his size and strength (surely Bootsma could have been given the small). Total crap. But the truth is the midfield was useless and Jones is really out of form and Ugle needs to be sent back to the reserves. Peel lost Mckenna and gianatti to get him and he has been pathetic mostly. Hancock is better than either of those two at the moment and Winton should be given a go in the place of Mathers who appears to have dropped off this year. Typical of Peel players really.
 

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Coulda, I generally stay away from the coaches ar 3/4 time when Peel are getting spanked. Past experiences tell me it can be very unrewarding. Claremont had plenty of tall timber in the forward line so there was a tiny bit of justification for Peel playing 3 talls in the backline. The problem was that Dawson was completely out of form, Hurley was rubbish and Tanner was good 1 minute and crap the next. If you throw in a unusually quiet bootsma, then you have 4 ineffectual players inside D50 opposed to the rampant and fleet footed Claremont mids and small forwards. Having said that, the game was won and lost in the midfield as usual.
Lim was very prolific and has a nice long kick on him but I thought Watson was the pick of the Tigers in terms of raw talent, although he is slightly built and he doesn't seem to me to to be the sort that could put on muscle. It was a bruise free game of footy so it's hard to judge how good the more prolific Tigers were.
I think Freo may want a couple of places on the rookie list. There are some interesting prospects that they may want to give a shot to.
 

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Coulda, I generally stay away from the coaches ar 3/4 time when Peel are getting spanked. Past experiences tell me it can be very unrewarding. Claremont had plenty of tall timber in the forward line so there was a tiny bit of justification for Peel playing 3 talls in the backline. The problem was that Dawson was completely out of form, Hurley was rubbish and Tanner was good 1 minute and crap the next. If you throw in a unusually quiet bootsma, then you have 4 ineffectual players inside D50 opposed to the rampant and fleet footed Claremont mids and small forwards. Having said that, the game was won and lost in the midfield as usual.
Lim was very prolific and has a nice long kick on him but I thought Watson was the pick of the Tigers in terms of raw talent, although he is slightly built and he doesn't seem to me to to be the sort that could put on muscle. It was a bruise free game of footy so it's hard to judge how good the more prolific Tigers were.
Thanks purple
great feed back .
It seams strange that Weller and Blakley were not used together in the midfield along with Ballard and Grey .
Once again too many players being played out of postion
 

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Thanks purple
great feed back .
It seams strange that Weller and Blakley were not used together in the midfield along with Ballard and Grey .
Once again too many players being played out of postion
When I first saw some of the unusual positioning of some of the players 2 or 3 weeks ago I too thought it was strange but now I see what Freo are doing. In the same way that Mayne spent some of the summer down back, Freo are developing flexibility into the kids coming through. Hughes and Langdon now start on the wings whereas they previously played HBF. Weller and Croz are now spending time at HBF whereas previously they were wingers. AP has been tried up forward, TV is also playing forward. Sheridan played HBF for Peel this year, Moller at FF. Grey was listed to play forward but only spent short stints up there, which is a shame because I think he needs to add another dimension to his game.
I think it's great for the development of the kids but it won't win Peel too many games of footy.
apuchar, I agree Winton was very good for Peel a few weeks back but how many KPD's can you fit in a WAFL team? I'm not sure where else you could play him.
 

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I doubt we'll promote any of our rookies. Are Smith and Ballard worth persevering with?
Tanner probably depends on what we get in the main draft this year. He can take a player out of the game and his kicking has improved so I think he is good to have if needed. He is a good size and has probably got the body strength to fill a role if needed at the next level, so I would like to keep him for a least one more year to see how good he can actually get. With Dawson and Silvagni out, Pearce still a bit underweight and Macca probably retiring at the end of the year, we could be left a bit vulnerable if we don't hold onto him. And any kid we get might need some time to build up.
Trying to imagine under what circumstances Ballard would get a run at the next level. Would have thought Blakely, Weller and Langdon would get a game before him and if we don't trade Crozier, so would he. He seems to be a poor mans Barlow but he would never have kicked the goal 'mighty mick' did on Saturday night. It might be just be because he is servicable rather than exciting that makes people doubt him???After saying all that he is a monty to get upgraded and Tanner delisted:).
 

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When I first saw some of the unusual positioning of some of the players 2 or 3 weeks ago I too thought it was strange but now I see what Freo are doing. In the same way that Mayne spent some of the summer down back, Freo are developing flexibility into the kids coming through. Hughes and Langdon now start on the wings whereas they previously played HBF. Weller and Croz are now spending time at HBF whereas previously they were wingers. AP has been tried up forward, TV is also playing forward. Sheridan played HBF for Peel this year, Moller at FF. Grey was listed to play forward but only spent short stints up there, which is a shame because I think he needs to add another dimension to his game.
I think it's great for the development of the kids but it won't win Peel too many games of footy.
apuchar, I agree Winton was very good for Peel a few weeks back but how many KPD's can you fit in a WAFL team? I'm not sure where else you could play him.
I think Winton could play on a midsize. Mathers is living off last year. He isn't playing that well this year.
 

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I wasn't at the game, but this isn't what it sounded like

wafl online BEST: M.De boer, E.Langdon, T.Smith, J.Mathers, L.Weller

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BEST Sounds more appropriate for both teams, although deboer appeared to do little until the last quarter

C: R Lim, T Ledger, F Watson, R Neates, S McAdam, J Bradshaw, B Franz. (Lim 19yrs 186cm 78kg)

PT: E Langdon, L Weller, M DeBoer, E Hughes, H Crozier.

Francis Watson is also from Halls Creek, is still a teenager and had made three league appearances.
Yet his attack on the ball at half-back embarrassed his mercurial opponent Max Duffy, helped him gather 21 possessions and enabled him to carry the ball forward with verve and precision.
And Ryan Lim, a teenage midfielder in the second month of his career, was even more effective.
Lim started on the highly-regarded Connor Blakely, spent time opposed to other Fremantle mids in Matt De Boer and Jacob Ballard, as well as veteran Brendon Jones, but came away with a career-high 32 disposals and substantially enhanced standing.

Add Jack Bradshaw’s impact and Claremont not only won the ball in the middle but had numerous potent options in attack.
Peel defender Brady Grey attacked the ball with greater vigour than most of his colleagues but he could not contain Bradshaw whose 18 disposals included eight shots at goal for 4.4.

Francis Watson (Claremont)

Born 29.9.1995, 186cm, 76kg

AFL biography: Medium Defender with terrific agility, natural leap and smooth kicking technique on his preferred right foot. Often plays as a rebounding half back that runs and carries the ball however he can also play a shutdown role on a dangerous forward. Shows good overhead marking strength and had a consistent NAB AFL Under-18 Championships averaging 12.5 disposals and 3.5 marks over four matches.

Raff Guadagnino, WAFL: "Francis has come late to the game - he only started playing when he was 13 or 14 - but he can really play. He's doing a traineeship with a diesel mechanic who rang us up to say he was the best, most respectful kid he'd ever had work for him and that he really wanted to see him be successful. He's from up north and he really wants to learn, he's a kid with a real desire to compete."
 
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I would have rookied Lim last year... still rate him, although we might now have too many similar players. Quick, good skills and always takes the game on. Plays Midfield at the lower level, but could be an attacking Back pocket for mine.
 
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Having been at the game, all I can say is that there is absolutely nothing of any value in that report. Reading that you would have thought everyone performed reasonable well, when in reality they were absolutely smashed and very few Peel players could hold their heads up high.

If "releasing well" and "having good running patterns" is the objective then we are all good, but if competing fiercely and winning one-on-one contests is the aim we were well off the mark.

Disappointed that the analysis was not more constructive.
 

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Having been at the game, all I can say is that there is absolutely nothing of any value in that report. Reading that you would have thought everyone performed reasonable well, when in reality they were absolutely smashed and very few Peel players could hold their heads up high.

If "releasing well" and "having good running patterns" is the objective then we are all good, but if competing fiercely and winning one-on-one contests is the aim we were well off the mark.

Disappointed that the analysis was not more constructive.
Thought I had just heard it wrong on the radio. I find it ridiculous that you would comment on the ruckman taking a mark in defensive fifty. I wish they would mark my work at uni that softly.
 
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The good:
  • Deluca back in the seniors, and named on the field.
  • Mzungu, Hannath and Crozier should all play since the seniors have the Friday night game.
The bad:
  • Dawson injured last week.
  • Griffin appears to be injured.
  • Alex Pearce still not back due to that back soreness than has dragged on for about 3 weeks now.
  • Vandeleur probably to be sent down to the reserves.
  • Weller named on the bench, and with 6 of those 7 bench players likely to play reserves, he's at risk.
  • That terrible forward line. Apeness is so critical to it.

TEAM LIST - ROUND 11

FB: 12. Benjamin Hancock 10. Joshua Bootsma 28. Brady Grey

HB: 42. Ethan Hughes 58. Sean Hurley 11. Joshua Mathers

C: 26. Ed Langdon 3. Brendon Jones 44. Jacob Ballard

HF: 24. Max Duffy 22. Tanner Smith 17. Brayden Lawler

FF: 39. Joshua Deluca 5. Leroy Jetta 1. Gerald Ugle

FOLLOWERS
40. Craig Moller
19. Connor Blakely
8. Matthew De Boer

INTERCHANGE
2. Laine Wilkins
14. Lachie Weller
15. Dylan Winton
16. Nathan Fahey
18. Mitchell Gill
20. Kieran May
43. Thomas Vandeleur



IN: 2. Laine Wilkins, 12. Benjamin Hancock, 15. Dylan Winton, 16. Nathan Fahey, 18. Mitchell Gill, 20. Kieran May, 39. Joshua Deluca,

OUT: 23. Hayden Crozier, 36. Zac Dawson, 38. Jack Hannath, 56. Jonathon Griffin,
 

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After some better things happening amongst the Freo 2nds, it's starting to look a bit rough on the edges. Deluca and Vandeleur have been a bit of a disappointment from the start and now on the fringes of the league team let alone looking like AFL quality. Weller at risk seems strange, I've not watched any WAFL for a couple of weeks, but sounds like his form might be dropping off a touch? Apeness, who was not in great form to begin with is out long term and looks like Alex Pearce's enthusiasm in his AFL games may cost him/the team for some time the way things are going. Silva and Dawson are out long term as well. Though our 'best 22+ is looking good, their are some concerns among the seconds from what I can tell.

A silver lining with Griffin injury is that Moller will get a chance to play in the middle more which I think suits him a bit better from the little I've seen - though he doesn't have the best tank on him so not sure how much he can play there overall - and if he needs to do it all day if Hannath by some unusual circumstanc actually plays in the AFL this week, then that would be another problem for the Peel side.


Disclaimer: As I said, I don't really have time to be following the 2nds that much this year, so some of that could be well off. That's why I really appreciate the WAFL watchers around here - look forward to their corrections of the above.
 

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The good:
  • Deluca back in the seniors, and named on the field.
  • Mzungu, Hannath and Crozier should all play since the seniors have the Friday night game.
The bad:
  • Dawson injured last week.
  • Griffin appears to be injured.
  • Alex Pearce still not back due to that back soreness than has dragged on for about 3 weeks now.
  • Vandeleur probably to be sent down to the reserves.
  • Weller named on the bench, and with 6 of those 7 bench players likely to play reserves, he's at risk.
  • That terrible forward line. Apeness is so critical to it.

TEAM LIST - ROUND 11

FB: 12. Benjamin Hancock 10. Joshua Bootsma 28. Brady Grey

HB: 42. Ethan Hughes 58. Sean Hurley 11. Joshua Mathers

C: 26. Ed Langdon 3. Brendon Jones 44. Jacob Ballard

HF: 24. Max Duffy 22. Tanner Smith 17. Brayden Lawler

FF: 39. Joshua Deluca 5. Leroy Jetta 1. Gerald Ugle

FOLLOWERS
40. Craig Moller
19. Connor Blakely
8. Matthew De Boer

INTERCHANGE
2. Laine Wilkins
14. Lachie Weller
15. Dylan Winton
16. Nathan Fahey
18. Mitchell Gill
20. Kieran May
43. Thomas Vandeleur



IN: 2. Laine Wilkins, 12. Benjamin Hancock, 15. Dylan Winton, 16. Nathan Fahey, 18. Mitchell Gill, 20. Kieran May, 39. Joshua Deluca,

OUT: 23. Hayden Crozier, 36. Zac Dawson, 38. Jack Hannath, 56. Jonathon Griffin,
Weller was one of our few good players last week. Sending him to reserves would be idiotic.
 
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The good:
  • Deluca back in the seniors, and named on the field.
  • Mzungu, Hannath and Crozier should all play since the seniors have the Friday night game.
The bad:
  • Dawson injured last week.
  • Griffin appears to be injured.
  • Alex Pearce still not back due to that back soreness than has dragged on for about 3 weeks now.
  • Vandeleur probably to be sent down to the reserves.
  • Weller named on the bench, and with 6 of those 7 bench players likely to play reserves, he's at risk.
  • That terrible forward line. Apeness is so critical to it.
Nice work, thanks serial_thrilla. In view of his performances so far and particularly last weekend when he was one of VERY few performers, I doubt Lachie Weller is in any danger of being dropped. Unless there is an injury concern you know about?

I would suggest he is the least likely of the bench players to be relegated to the reserves.

Edit: Beat me to it apuchar :)
 

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Nice work, thanks serial_thrilla. In view of his performances so far and particularly last weekend when he was one of VERY few performers, I doubt Lachie Weller is in any danger of being dropped. Unless there is an injury concern you know about?

I would suggest he is the least likely of the bench players to be relegated to the reserves.

Edit: Beat me to it apuchar :)
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