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I don't see what all the fuss is about...

... clearly Jordan was the better baseballer!
 
Originally posted by Blue Blood
Go ask someone over 40 who Michael Jordan is and who Pele is.Problem is you all think your age.Also in 30 years time will people remember Jordan like we remember Pele now?I don't think so.Also basketball is a very restricted game,in that if your not 6'4" then is very hard to make it.Yes i know there are blokes under 6' but not many.Anyhow that's a differant subject.
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i'm sure over 40's know who MJ is...
go ask a 10yr old kid who MJ is.. and who Pele is...
your point is??

why dont u think MJ will be remembered in 30yrs time?
MJ, who happened to to be the greatest, also played in the greatest era of basketball.. during the 80s and early 90s...

yes... at the top level, u have to at least be of a certain ability to be able to get in... thats the case with all sports played at their highest level..

as ant mentioned before... pele isnt even universally regarded by experts as the greatest soccer player.. i've read many times, that experts opinions range from maradonna (quite often), di stefano, and others...
 

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Originally posted by Blue Blood
Go ask someone over 40 who Michael Jordan is and who Pele is.Problem is you all think your age.Also in 30 years time will people remember Jordan like we remember Pele now?I don't think so.Also basketball is a very restricted game,in that if your not 6'4" then is very hard to make it.Yes i know there are blokes under 6' but not many.Anyhow that's a differant subject.
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When ppl think Basketball, Michael Jordan springs to mind. He will be forever remembered and why not...you always remember the greatest of each sport thats why Babe Ruth, Pele, Ali, Bradman etc etc will always be remembered. Jordan is basketball.

And what the hell is that 6'4 crap about....there is tonnes of players under 6'4 in the NBA??? That comment suggest you know little about basketball.

Oh and Pele is better than Maradonna or should we say the Hand of God...
 
Originally posted by Dan25


We will remember who Jordan was in 150 years time, let alone 30.
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Will you Dan, and how old will you be then, 175?:D

Pele is known by more people throughout the world than Jordan by the simple fact that soccer is the most followed and popular game in the world. And a much better sport to boot.
 
Originally posted by jod23



And what the hell is that 6'4 crap about....there is tonnes of players under 6'4 in the NBA??? That comment suggest you know little about basketball.
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Exactly, there are roughly 56 NBA players who are under 6-4, and there are another 12 that are 6-4.


Under 6-4

11 Boykins, Earl, PG
Los Angeles Clippers 5-5 133
22 Knight, Brevin, PG
Memphis Grizzlies 5-10 170
3 Stoudamire, Damon, PG
Portland Trail Blazers 5-10 171
7 Atkins, Chucky, PG
Detroit Pistons 5-11 160
7 Brandon, Terrell, PG
Minnesota Timberwolves 5-11 173
1 Barros, Dana, PG
Detroit Pistons 5-11 163
12 Claxton, Speedy, PG
Philadelphia 76ers 5-11 166
4 Best, Travis, PG
Indiana Pacers 5-11 184
6 Johnson, Avery, PG
Denver Nuggets 5-11 180
10 Lue, Tyronn, PG
Washington Wizards 6-0 175
12 Whitney, Chris, G
Washington Wizards 6-0 175
10 Hardaway, Tim, PG
Dallas Mavericks 6-0 195
3 Iverson, Allen, SG
Philadelphia 76ers 6-0 165
11 Hudson, Troy, PG
Orlando Magic 6-1 170
12 Stockton, John, PG
Utah Jazz 6-1 175
21 Barkley, Erick, PG
Portland Trail Blazers 6-1 185
10 Armstrong, Darrell, PG
Orlando Magic 6-1 180
5 House, Eddie, SG
Miami Heat 6-1 180
4 Wesley, David, SG
Charlotte Hornets 6-1 211
10 Bibby, Mike, PG
Sacramento Kings 6-1 190
20 Price, Brent, PG
Sacramento Kings 6-1 185
10 Blaylock, Mookie, PG
Golden State Warriors 6-1 185
55 Williams, Jason, PG
Memphis Grizzlies 6-1 190
50 Anthony, Greg, PG
Chicago Bulls 6-1 180
7 Anderson, Kenny, PG
Boston Celtics 6-1 168
31 Van Exel, Nick, PG
Denver Nuggets 6-1 190
11 Vaughn, Jacque, PG
Atlanta Hawks 6-1 190
12 Norris, Moochie, PG
Houston Rockets 6-1 175
24 Jackson, Bobby, SG
Sacramento Kings 6-1 185
31 Terry, Jason, PG
Atlanta Hawks 6-2 172
25 Carter, Anthony, PG
Miami Heat 6-2 195
22 Crotty, John, PG
Utah Jazz 6-2 194
24 Cleaves, Mateen, PG
Sacramento Kings 6-2 205
11 Guyton, A.J., SG
Chicago Bulls 6-2 185
11 Hunter, Lindsey, G
Los Angeles Lakers 6-2 200
21 Ward, Charlie, PG
New York Knicks 6-2 190
50 Coles, Bimbo, PG
Cleveland Cavaliers 6-2 182
0 Delk, Tony, PG
Phoenix Suns 6-2 189
33 Marbury, Stephon, PG
Phoenix Suns 6-2 180
9 Eisley, Howard, PG
New York Knicks 6-2 180
24 Alston, Rafer, PG
Milwaukee Bucks 6-2 173
24 Miller, Andre, PG
Cleveland Cavaliers 6-2 200
9 Palacio, Milt, SG
Boston Celtics 6-3 195
5 Cummings, Vonteego, PG
Philadelphia 76ers 6-3 190
21 Langdon, Trajan, SG
Cleveland Cavaliers 6-3 197
3 Francis, Steve, G
Houston Rockets 6-3 193
1 Davis, Baron, PG
Charlotte Hornets 6-3 212
30 Porter, Terry, PG
San Antonio Spurs 6-3 205
10 Cassell, Sam, PG
Milwaukee Bucks 6-3 185
4 Kerr, Steve, G
Portland Trail Blazers 6-3 180
12 Penberthy, Mike, PG
Los Angeles Lakers 6-3 185
24 Drew, Bryce, PG
Charlotte Hornets 6-3 185
13 Nash, Steve, PG
Dallas Mavericks 6-3 195
1 Dooling, Keyon, SG
Los Angeles Clippers 6-3 184
Ft. Lauderdale, FL Missouri
1 Childs, Chris, PG
Toronto Raptors 6-3 195
4 Billups, Chauncey, SG
Minnesota Timberwolves 6-3 202
1 Strickland, Rod, PG
Miami Heat 6-3 185
31 Jackson, Mark, PG
New York Knicks 6-3 205

6-4

21 Buckner, Greg, SG
Dallas Mavericks 6-4 210
Hopkinsville, KY Clemson
20 Hoiberg, Fred, SG
Chicago Bulls 6-4 203
Lincoln, NE Iowa State
3 Recasner, Eldridge, G
Charlotte Hornets 6-4 195
New Orleans, LA Washington
5 Lenard, Voshon, SG
Denver Nuggets 6-4 205
Detroit, MI Minnesota
44 Peeler, Anthony, SG
Minnesota Timberwolves 6-4 208
Kansas City, MO Missouri
32 Kidd, Jason, PG
New Jersey Nets 6-4 212
San Francisco, CA California
5 Dial, Derrick, SG
New Jersey Nets 6-4 185
Detroit, MI Eastern Michigan
33 Daniels, Antonio, PG
San Antonio Spurs 6-4 205
Columbus, OH Bowling Green
20 Payton, Gary, PG
Seattle SuperSonics 6-4 180
Oakland, CA Oregon State
5 Ollie, Kevin, PG
Chicago Bulls 6-4 195
Dallas, TX Connecticut
5 Mobley, Cuttino, SG
Houston Rockets 6-4 190
Philadelphia, PA Rhode Island
5 McInnis, Jeff, PG
Los Angeles Clippers 6-4 190
Charlotte, NC North Carolina


Get the picture!!!
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Well, I think this one is closer than many of you think, although maybe it could be Jordan, it could also be Pele. I think in 3-4 years when the jordan thing dies down Pele will still be incredibly famous worldwide. By the way it's useless asking different aged people here in Oz, you must remember most of the world is not like here. I think we went over that in the other thread although I'm not sure Dan got the jist too well!!!
 
Too hard to call.
Pele and Maradona would be the two most famous soccer players. Jordan by far the most famous basketballer.
Now even tho Soccer is played in far more countries than Basketball is...i reckon Jordan would be just as or if not more famous than Pele or Maradona. The thing is you dont need to really play Basketball or know much about Basketball to know who Jordan is. Jordan is bigger than the sport. Just look at the amount of sponership and advertising the guy did. Id go as far as saying more people know about Jordan than actually know about Basketball. People would of heard of Jordan without actually knowing really who he is.

Id say both Pele and Jordan would be equally as famous.
 
Originally posted by Dan25


Neither did you get the jist (gist?), either. There were plenty of posts backing me up on the other thread too - and for good reason.
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Listen Dan you have a certain perception of the world, probably quite like the one I had before I went overseas, and I have a different one.

I've read books, I've seen docco's, I've spoken to people, but I've also been there and done it myself and might I say that all the reading, talking and idiotbox watching taught me about 1/1,000,000th of what I learn't whilst travelling. That's about how I look at your credibility and opinion on a topic such as these, you just haven't got a clue what it's really like mate, believe me.

Your ego and arrogance is amazing, to think you know more than me about the world and what it's like, just amazing.
 
Originally posted by The Starchild
Your ego and arrogance is amazing, to think you know more than me about the world and what it's like, just amazing.
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I think that quote about sums up all these "famous" threads.
 

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Originally posted by The Starchild


That's about how I look at your credibility and opinion on a topic such as these, you just haven't got a clue what it's really like mate, believe me.

Your ego and arrogance is amazing, to think you know more than me about the world and what it's like, just amazing.
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Neeeeiggghhh, hope you don't fall of that high horse of yours!!:rolleyes: ;)
 
Originally posted by The Starchild
I don't think I'm smarter or better than him nor you or anyone else.
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When Sheedy played James Hird at full-back on Gary Ablett during a round 11 match in 1995, I though I was a hell of a lot smarter than him. So did the Bomber fans around me, all of whom agreed with me that Hird should be moved! :D
 
Jordan is better how many times has Jordan sunk baskets on the buzzer to send the Chicago bulls to a victory. Yes Pele was good but Mike was better. I dont believe im biased im not really a huge fan of Nike and i rate Socer higher than basketball. Michael Jordan was someone who had incredible sense ofwhere things are.

Pele was someone who was able to do new and phenominal things that hadn't been tried before, yes because of him Soccer changed greatly in the way it was played.

But Michael Jordan was just way above everyone else and it still shows he is still racking up 40 plus points each game after all the young "guns" said he is passed it and will get a lesson in basketball. From what ive seen Michael seems to be giving out lessons, it's a pitty that his team dont learn from these lessons.
 

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Although I rate Maradona as a player, possibly better than Pele......Pele is

- Most successful player from late 50's - mid 70's
- An icon for world sportsmanship
- An ambassador for the game

Maradona was an amazing talent, but he also was
- Drug Cheat
- Not a role Model


So Pele gets the nod ;)

Out of MJ and Pele, its real hard...but considerign Soccer is the most popular sport in the world, and considering that somethin like 27 yrs after retirement, Pele is still talked about.

Plus remember no one in the world has seen what Pele has done, Not all games of his were broadcasted, unlike the NBA.

Anyway...Pele (Just)
 

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