Religion Pell Guilty!

[Crankyhawk]

Not if he's accusing the Court of Appeal of corruption.

Unless Chief wants to end up on that list of publishers who faced contempt charges first time round in these hearings.

He didn’t directly, it was myself who inferred that he appeared to be suggesting the court was influenced.
So my opinion on what he wrote rather than a direct accusation

 

[Strange Cat]

Disagree. Bruce has voiced his opinion in (mho) a fair way. Does appear he has copped more personal abuse towards him than has fired.

Calling child abuse survivors on this thread liars is voicing his opinion in a fair way?

 

[Del191229]

Actually, at this stage Chief Bruce is only "entitled" to his opinion on the Conspiracies board.

Not here.

No, you’re not entitled to your opinion

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[Mr_Moogle]

Disagree. Bruce has voiced his opinion in (mho) a fair way. Does appear he has copped more personal abuse towards him than has fired.

He's entitled to his own opinion but not his own facts. Having an opinion isn't some shield that protects a person from criticism.

 

[Del191229]

I thinks it telling that not only does Bruce continues to defend a convicted child rapists...he also refuses to apologise for the disgraceful things he wrote about the survivors of sexual abuse on this very thread

I honesty bewildered that anyone could write the s**t he has wrote

That bloke who died on the end of the needle - no word on him from Bruce.

 

[Strange Cat]

That bloke who died on the end of the needle - no word on him from Bruce.

Still continues to call him a liar despite all the evidence and convictions confirming the abuse

He’s a grub of a person

 

[Del191229]

He's entitled to his own opinion but not his own facts. Having an opinion isn't some shield that protects a person from criticism.

No, you’re not entitled to your opinion

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[Crankyhawk]

Calling child abuse survivors on this thread liars is voicing his opinion in a fair way?

Unfortunately that is part of what it is the believe in the Catholic Church doing no wrong therefore the survivors are liars.

It means that one can weigh his opinion with diminished worth due to those blinkers.

 

[Del191229]

He didn’t directly, it was myself who inferred that he appeared to be suggesting the court was influenced.
So my opinion on what he wrote rather than a direct accusation

He himself wrote the Chief Justice and the President of the Court of Appeal KNEW they were making the wrong decision but brought it down anyway.

That's straight up contempt.

He can say they got it wrong in his view.

But to say they KNEW it was wrong and made it anyway, contempt.

There's blokes on cells in Barwon with a firmer grasp on the law than Bruce.

The only thing he has a firm grasp on is himself.

 

[Strange Cat]

He himself wrote the Chief Justice and the President of the Court of Appeal KNEW they were making the wrong decision but brought it down anyway.

That's straight up contempt.

He can say they got it wrong in his view.

But to say they KNEW it was wrong and made it anyway, contempt.

There's blokes on cells in Barwon with a firmer grasp on the law than Bruce.

The only thing he has a firm grasp on is himself.

Debatable

 

[Crankyhawk]

He himself wrote the Chief Justice and the President of the Court of Appeal KNEW they were making the wrong decision but brought it down anyway.

That's straight up contempt.

He can say they got it wrong in his view.

But to say they KNEW it was wrong and made it anyway, contempt.

There's blokes on cells in Barwon with a firmer grasp on the law than Bruce.

The only thing he has a firm grasp on is himself.

Doesn’t contempt need to be a sustained attack on the court? Otherwise I would have been in contempt of the US Supreme Court for saying that I believe the NRA bribes judges to rule various weapons are what the founding fathers intended by the second amendment.

I stand by this belief, logic is that they are politically appointed suck ups therefore need money and therefore pay back their donors.

 

[Gough]

I'd imagine that there'll be a bit to come from the R/C as well.

 

[Del191229]

Doesn’t contempt need to be a sustained attack on the court? Otherwise I would have been in contempt of the US Supreme Court for saying that I believe the NRA bribes judges to rule various weapons are what the founding fathers intended by the second amendment.

I stand by this belief, logic is that they are politically appointed suck ups therefore need money and therefore pay back their donors.

You would be protected by the First Amendment.

 

[Strange Cat]

I'd imagine that there'll be a bit to come from the R/C as well.

Won’t be enough to get an apology from Bruce

Aparently he knows more than the QC lawyers, jurors and judges

Just ****ing laughable

 

[Del191229]

I'd imagine that there'll be a bit to come from the R/C as well.

Let's not forget the other multiple accusations made against him over a sustained period of time.

Yes, those have not been proven and hence he's not doing further time for them.

But the Bolt line that he'd led a life would question is just plain bullshit.

 

[QuietB]

Doesn’t contempt need to be a sustained attack on the court? Otherwise I would have been in contempt of the US Supreme Court for saying that I believe the NRA bribes judges to rule various weapons are what the founding fathers intended by the second amendment.

I stand by this belief, logic is that they are politically appointed suck ups therefore need money and therefore pay back their donors.

Can you be in contempt of a US court when you are commenting in Australia?

 

[Strange Cat]

I can see this happening for poor old Bruce

Upon the pearly gates once he dies Bruce meets God (debatable)

Bruce: so what about this terrible unjust conspiracy against George Pell god?

God: there was no conspiracy

Bruce: this conspiracy goes deeper than I thought

God: I can show you deeper if you want ..say hi to Pell when you get there too

 

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Your not good with a marker either?

 

[Del191229]

Comensoli weasel words disgusting.

 

[Strange Cat]

You have to laugh at him still wearing his priest collar

Shows how much disrespect he has to his victims that he still clings to sense of power

 

[CheapCharlie]

I have spoken directly to people who have. Who are senior enough to properly understand the issues. Who don't like Pell.

The characterisation of the complainant's evidence as "compelling" is bulls**t. I have seen everything else, much of which was not even challenged by the prosecution. And I saw directly the Prosecution's closing. And accepting every word of the Prosecution's closing doesn't come close to defeating reasonable doubt.

You 'know some guys who know the facts' ??

 

[Strange Cat]

You 'know some guys who know the facts' ??

Yeah the channel 7 cameraman in the elevator

 

[Sainteric]

2 to 1

Just shows the inadequacy of the legal system, where three experienced judges who put a lot of consideration into this couldn't agree on the outcome.

I haven't seen the dissenting view but it's reported it was unanimous on 12 of the 13 reason for appeal. Where he dissented was the jury overreach as I suggested 100s of pages ago in this thread. None of the 'facts' of the case if you like we're disputed, if the reporting is correct. But this probably will be the HC appeal.

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

I thinks it telling that not only does Bruce continues to defend a convicted child rapists...he also refuses to apologise for the disgraceful things he wrote about the survivors of sexual abuse on this very thread

I honesty bewildered that anyone could write the s**t he has wrote

Sorry? What have I said about victims?

 

[western royboy]

I'd imagine that there'll be a bit to come from the R/C as well.

They’ll move on quickly - George is effectively dead to them now