It can also be thrown out or the dpp wont bring it to trial againThat won't help, even if Pell wins on appeal, there'll still be a retrial.
And this time it'll all (well, mostly) be in public.
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It can also be thrown out or the dpp wont bring it to trial againThat won't help, even if Pell wins on appeal, there'll still be a retrial.
And this time it'll all (well, mostly) be in public.
Francis was Ali Bachar's bag man for the rebel tours of South Africa too, he wrote a dreadfully self serving book shaped object called Guilty; Kim Hughes or Bob Hawke full of Apartheid apolgism by way of attempted justification.They have you mixed up with Bruce Francis (who I recall did post on BF)
That is serious character slander.
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This post says it all about how emotion and pure bias has overtaken perspective in this thread and SRP in general.Even if he's not guilty, I'm cool with seeing Pell's life destroyed. He's reaping what he sowed for a career full of hate.
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Both vanishingly unlikely, unless there has been some (so far undisclosed) devastatingly major defect in the proceedings and/or the victim declines to put himself through it again.It can also be thrown out or the dpp wont bring it to trial again
I don’t really have a clue what Bolt and Devine have been saying. I had cricket training last night and I have been too busy today to try and find out.Surely Lebbo you don't support the stance that Devine and Bolt have taken - isn't defense of the rule of law a right wing shibboleth. The sober thing to do is to say the jury has spoken and we see what happens on the appeal.
You answered your own question mate!We know that the Child-Rape Cult otherwise known as the catholic church condones the rape and torture of children. We know this not only from watching them do it for centuries, but more tellingly by their persistent, determined efforts to protect the rapists, relocate them and silence the victims. Raping and torturing children is not isolated, aberrant behaviour for the cult members. It is official company policy. The relevant question is why. Allow me to speculate.
The religion business is a scam designed to separate idiots from their cash and to wield control over them. I believe that the catholic cult's systematic use of rape and torture of children is a deliberate tactic used to crush the spirit of children to ensure that the future broken adult will remain fully controlled and subservient to the church.
catholics - why do you continue to support the Child Rape Cult?
I'm gay man in my mid 40s Lebs, after everything he's said about me and my tribe I'm hardly going to offer to be his prison pen pal am I?This post says it all about how emotion and pure bias has overtaken perspective in this thread and SRP in general.
If you had a look outside BigFooty you’d realise that you’re part of the radical left. No you wouldn’t. Who am I kidding.The reaction of Bolt and his ilk just confirm they are some of the most radical people in this country, happy to tear down institutions to suit their own agendas. That they seem to think they are speaking for some sort of silent majority is just point and laugh territory.
I'm gay man in my mid 40s Lebs, after everything he's said about me and my tribe I'm hardly going to offer to be his prison pen pal am I?

He has known about children being r*ped since the 70s and has protected those priests.This post says it all about how emotion and pure bias has overtaken perspective in this thread and SRP in general.
You got any prison mates for him to snuggle up to, that’d be a kind gesture!I'm gay man in my mid 40s Lebs, after everything he's said about me and my tribe I'm hardly going to offer to be his prison pen pal am I?
You got any prison mates for him to snuggle up to, that’d be a kind gesture!
No thats incorrect.We either have faith in our judicial system or we don't.
Everyone is reading between the lines here because very few people have actually heard the evidence.
However, if Pell's lawyer is arguing that the abuse is on some sort of lower level then that is accepting that the abuse happened. I am not sure how anyone can defend Pell in light of this.
Pell's own lawyer has stated that abuse happened.
Yep dreadful reallyThis post says it all about how emotion and pure bias has overtaken perspective in this thread and SRP in general.
The victim didn't put himself through this time. As much as I hate Pell and the Catholic church he will get off on appeal.Both vanishingly unlikely, unless there has been some (so far undisclosed) devastatingly major defect in the proceedings and/or the victim declines to put himself through it again.
Believe me, the point of my post was not that Abbott is smart. It was that he is a scumbag.
No, it's not, in a sentencing hearing he just has to proceed as if it did happen.
No thats incorrect.
Richter had to argue the gravity of the offence as if the decision was correct.
Its not an admission of guilt.
I had made this mistake assuming same as you until more learned legal folk corrected me
He's a calculated prick who knows how to survive and prosper politically.

On what basis?The victim didn't put himself through this time. As much as I hate Pell and the Catholic church he will get off on appeal.
I played cricket a guy now doing time in Victoria for murder. Haven't spoken to him in over 20 years though so it might be a big ask.You got any prison mates for him to snuggle up to, that’d be a kind gesture!
Did he bat or Bowl? And could he sledge?I played cricket a guy now doing time in Victoria for murder. Haven't spoken to him in over 20 years though so it might be a big ask.