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BRWB said:
Its this quote that sticks with me...

In the retrial, Richter resorted to using a PowerPoint presentation during his closing address to drill his point home, a move that surprised many in the courtroom. One slide flashed on the screen that simply read: “Only a madman would attempt to rape two boys in the priests sacristy immediately after Sunday solemn mass.”

You see a normal, rational, non abuser of children would stop the sentence where I have...."Only a madman would attempt to rape two boys."
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Richter managed to get Mick Gatto off when he shot a bloke dead in a restaurant. But couldn't get Pell off.
 

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JeanLucGoddard said:
Yes, my mother taught in the Catholic Church and rose very senior in the CEO and had to leave when she found the senior leadership - Archbishop at the time was one G.Pell - were simply burying the reports she was making about paedo priests at work in the schools she was managing.

But don't worry, BruceFromBalnarring tells us Pell ended the abuse.
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Great.

Perhaps you can ask Mum why the CEO chose not to inform George Pell of the abuse committed by Peter Searson, a fact they admitted at the Royal Commission?

And why have they run cover for Frank Little, who did know about Searson and refused Pell’s advice to sack him (noting that Pell wanted him sacked for being a violent prick not knowing he was an abuser as well).
 
GuruJane said:
You got any info?

why didn't richter put Pell into box to defend himself?

How come both trials were held in secret - or did i miss the coverage?
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Richter made the application for secrecy on the basis he could not have a fair trial without it - on the first question Bob must have thought the prosecution case was not good enough to justify the risk of putting him in the box - rumour is he was pretty confident


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BruceFromBalnarring said:
Great.

Perhaps you can ask Mum why the CEO chose not to inform George Pell of the abuse committed by Peter Searson, a fact they admitted at the Royal Commission?

And why have they run cover for Frank Little, who did know about Searson and refused Pell’s advice to sack him (noting that Pell wanted him sacked for being a violent prick not knowing he was an abuser as well).
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I'd rather ask you why you're running spin for a convicted child rapist. And the Royal Commission didn't buy your bullshit spin about the CEO and Searson and Pell.
 

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its free real estate said:
Bolt is a sad, sad man, so deep in the culture war he defends a paedo priest from a religion he doesn’t follow.
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Yep, he's like when the Brits worked with the Japanese they'd just defeated on the Hanoi docks to keep the Viet Minh out.

Like, DUDE.
 
BruceFromBalnarring said:
Great.

Perhaps you can ask Mum why the CEO chose not to inform George Pell of the abuse committed by Peter Searson, a fact they admitted at the Royal Commission?

And why have they run cover for Frank Little, who did know about Searson and refused Pell’s advice to sack him (noting that Pell wanted him sacked for being a violent prick not knowing he was an abuser as well).
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Also, since when did George develop an interest in such matters, wasn't his line that these things were sad stories of not much interest to him?
 
Contra Mundum said:
Richter made the application for secrecy on the basis he could not have a fair trial without it - on the first question Bob must have thought the prosecution case was not good enough to justify the risk of putting him in the box - rumour is he was pretty confident


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In this day and age, not putting Pell through cross examination would have instantly prejudiced jury in favour of complainant who endured hours of richter cross exam. Very bad decision imo - surely he wasn't fearing Pell wouldn't be able to handle prosecution.

Ditto - wanting trials to be secret - lead balloons in this day/age. Pell/Richter seem to have made very bad calls they are now regretting.

Did the defence call lots of altar boys and acolytes from those masses om question to describe how archbishop's are never left alone? Or wouldn't Pell have had a satisfactory answer to that question?
 

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Jibroni said:
Sad day for Australian Catholics for their trust in the institution of the church has been severely damaged.

Reformation is needed.
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Thank you.
Most Catholics are appalled with the Church (Especially the younger generation). Reform is needed and I believe will take place.

However, people using this to smear all Catholics (Even the ones who aren't defending Pell, like me), not the Church and the institution which should be blamed but all Catholics are not helping anyone and are using the victims of these horrible crimes to push their own agenda.
 
TigerTime_89 said:
Thank you.
Most Catholics are appalled with the Church (Especially the younger generation). Reform is needed and I believe will take place.

However, people using this to smear all Catholics (Even the ones who aren't defending Pell, like me), not the Church and the institution which should be blamed but all Catholics are not helping anyone and are using the victims of these horrible crimes to push their own agenda.
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Do you have an agenda?
 
Soft Downhill Skier said:
I get that Bolt needs identity politics, and he wants to lead one of the sides. But why die on this hill?
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Bolt's world view needs an authority structure or hierarchy of power to function. He is attracted to authority structures and organisations where the people at the top decide and the rest obediently follow. The Church for him is an example of how an organisation works running according to what he thinks are natural principles of human organisation.
 
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GuruJane said:
In this day and age, not putting Pell through cross examination would have instantly prejudiced jury in favour of complainant who endured hours of richter cross exam. Very bad decision imo - surely he wasn't fearing Pell wouldn't be able to handle prosecution.

Ditto - wanting trials to be secret - lead balloons in this day/age. Pell/Richter seem to have made very bad calls they are now regretting.

Did the defence call lots of altar boys and acolytes from those masses om question to describe how archbishop's are never left alone? Or wouldn't Pell have had a satisfactory answer to that question?
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Mind you - Pell is probably on the spectrum and has no emotional intelligence - look at his performance in the Royal Commission - you can understand in a jury trial why Bob kept him away.


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TigerTime_89 said:
Thank you.
Most Catholics are appalled with the Church (Especially the younger generation). Reform is needed and I believe will take place.

However, people using this to smear all Catholics (Even the ones who aren't defending Pell, like me), not the Church and the institution which should be blamed but all Catholics are not helping anyone and are using the victims of these horrible crimes to push their own agenda.
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The institutional crime on child abuse can never by forgotten or forgiven - all Catholics are implicated. Including myself


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BruceFromBalnarring said:
I was there for the prosecution closing and for the verdict. And I have been an altar boy at St Pats in the past.

This verdict won't survive an appeal. Absolutely no chance.

Hate the guy all you like, and I do understand why some do, although I don't share that view of him.

But he didn't do this, and couldn't have done it. And the jury heard at least a dozen altar boys and/or choirboys say exactly that.

Which is why it won't survive an appeal.

But Pell will go inside tomorrow. And will stay there until an appeal is decided.
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"He didn't make kids suck his dick! I refuse to believe it!"
 
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