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It shouldn’t be forgotten that in the face of an angry mob, even the High Court got Chamberlain horribly wrong.Yes and I did note that; in that I would maintain redaction until high court proceedings are completed.
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It shouldn’t be forgotten that in the face of an angry mob, even the High Court got Chamberlain horribly wrong.Yes and I did note that; in that I would maintain redaction until high court proceedings are completed.
Ha, told ya all
He is just an arrogant narcissist with a massive narcissistic persecution complex, that kind of self centred egotists can always be found affiliated with religious orgnaisations, they love the idea of speaking for god aka being god. It feeds their god complex and their ego just right. Pell is another classic example
What's that got to do with the truth of the matter?I’ll give you one short reason.
The more abuse I receive the more motivated I am to express my genuinely held beliefs. I hate mobs.
But only due to new evidence.It shouldn’t be forgotten that in the face of an angry mob, even the High Court got Chamberlain horribly wrong.
& Pell helped cover up his paedophile mates & did his best to pressure & censure the abused.Are you aware that part of the reason child sexual abuse was allowed to fester is that people weren’t prepared to confront the mob?
Are you aware that part of the reason child sexual abuse was allowed to fester is that people weren’t prepared to confront the mob?
Do you think the HC judges are likely to, in some way, be influenced by public discussion while performing their role of considering the facts relating to lower court evidence and judgements?If there is a high court case to be heard it is probably (in my untrained opinion) to maintain the redaction until after the case. If no case release the full findings of the RC
No. They got it horribly wrong in the first instance.But only due to new evidence.
This is the appropriate way to overturn a verdict.
That's the different mob you are talking about, you poor confused man
That mob are the ones who helped pedos like Pell get away with systematic abuse of children, by covering for them and shaming the victims.
YOU are that mob
We are now the ones confronting that very mob, and putting them behind bars where they should be. You are part of that mob, part of the problem, and part of what caused all the children to suffer. You are just playing a projection game, like all narcissists when they are caught
& Pell helped cover up his paedophile mates & did his best to pressure & censure the abused.
But only due to new evidence.
This is the appropriate way to overturn a verdict.
You can't have your head in the sand if you are apparently across everything Pell.When?
This is where we need a Wikileaks....Do you think the HC judges are likely to, in some way, be influenced by public discussion while performing their role of considering the facts relating to lower court evidence and judgements?
Candidly, I doubt the redacted parts of that report will ever see the light of day due to pressures from vested interests.
Yes. Because I would not have known any different and the judges (who know better legal system than muse) had made the decision.Hang on. What??
Are you saying if they hadn’t found the new evidence you’d have been happy for Lindy to rot?
Yes. Because I would not have known any different and the judges (who know better legal system than muse) had made the decision.
Pell has a long history of abuse. He was able to hire top line QCs to browbeat victims , victims who ended up with a history of drug usage which was then used against them in court.
If anyone knows a child who boarded in Ballarat Catholic schools its common knowledge the Pell and many other priests were rock spiders.
Now all these white knights claiming Pell is the victim when a true victim who presented well in court, no history of drug use was able to share his experiences without Being ridiculed by a QC into looking silly.
Hey Bruce, read these articles and try and get an insight to the man you are defending at the expense of the true victims.
This shows that he has a long history of sexual abuse against minors . Ahh the feeling of power Hey George!!
The irony is this article is that the man confided in Father Bob McGuire and then he went to the police and laid charges. Father Bob was then hounded out of the church , one of the true statesman and doers of the church , someone who is in touch with contempary humanity yet vilified by the church.Why??
Here the dysfunction of the church and the denial of Pell at the RC are discussed
For whom the Pell tolls: what did we learn from George Pell’s royal commission appearance?
One of the most important lessons we have learnt from George Pell’s royal commission appearance is the Catholic Church was – and still is – in a state of denial over child sexual abuse.theconversation.com
Here is DAVID MARRS essay on you tube about Pell. Marr has written and spoken about Pell at length but not one law suit for defamation. He refused to answer questions again and again as he knew he had met his match in Marr. Goes for just under an hour but if you are interested in understanding who Pell is this will give you some truths about this cold , heartless man. Why was there no law suit as Pell was very quick to spend ther money put on plates by parishioners on his legal endeavours.
You need to watch all of that Bruce!! This gives great insight into this creep.
Here Pell brow beats a girl who was a minor when she was raped by a Priest and fell pregnant, this is what she said about Pell when she went to see him .
She then sought assistance from the church, first writing to then Melbourne Archbishop Sir Frank Little, who in 1995 referred her to Dr Pell, an auxiliary bishop.
"I was desperate. I wasn't handling life at all and I'd tried suicide, alcohol and other things to try to forget," she recalled.
"I had an audience with Pell and I wished that meeting had not happened -- it was terrible."
She said she'd told Dr Pell about the pregnancies, including the time she was only 15 -- below the age of consent.
"He was so cold and disbelieving. He told me I should get over it. It made things 10 times worse, and from then on I was going nowhere."
True pastoral care
Part-time celibacy: The story of Zelda | Broken Rites Australia
www.brokenrites.org.au
This is the lengths Pell went to to ensure his defence. He took Broken Rites to court to get all documents that related to him. This was so he could adequately prepare his defence against the charges of abuse he has been found guilty of. Why subpoena documents form a victims advocacy ???? GUILTY
George Pell's lawyers force advocacy group to hand over documents
Victoria police and Broken Rites tell court they provided materials demanded by cardinal’s lawyers in a subpoenawww.theguardian.com
To think that years ago Pell screamed to the government there is no need for a royal commission into the Catholic Church and sexual abuse?????
I could go on but not sure why Some cannot see who he truly is.
A PEODOPHILE !!! One who is angry at the world and resentful that he denied himself the pleasure of ther human flesh for the benefit of humanity so instead he sort to get it, Under the counter if you know what i mean. From those who could not defend themselves, those who he held enormous power over. The kids
Written by Slartibartfast whose evidence was accepted without question at the Royal Comminssion into sexual abuse. George wanted to deny me of that too!
What ******* rubbishAre you aware that part of the reason child sexual abuse was allowed to fester is that people weren’t prepared to confront the mob?
But not on the evidence available at the time. Unlike yourself I lack the arrogance to presume I know what it true more than the judge whose job and training it is.You know she was innocent?
Bruce is just ignoring the debate. Too much fact to deal with so easier just to fob it off and pretend it does not count .Southwell found both parties to be believable - I don’t think you can say he was “cleared” as such, the questions still remain to this day
You discuss your theory as if is a factI did say it was a theory. At another point I said it was a suspicion.
I've given, repeatedly, my foundations for its formulation.
It makes more sense than the sudden vaporisation of a dozen odd altar boys, a Master of Ceremonies, a sacristant, various odd money counters and whoever else was coming and going in that room.
Or the vision of an Archbishop, dressed in all his gear, racing past the procession to get back to the sacristy to bust a couple boys drinking "sweet red wine" which was apparently only white as evidenced by purchase orders etc.
We know that is a lie.Pell has said many times that child sexual abuse is an abhorrent crime. Cherry picking a quote, absent the question to which he was responding, is fatuous. But it's par for the course when it comes to the developing narrative surround him.
As to Royal Commission findings.
If they are in relation to offences he is alleged to have committed, they should absolutely not be released prior to the conclusion of this process. I shouldn't have to explain why.
If they are in relation to his alleged actions surrounding his response to abuse committed by others, they should be released. There can be no further trial of Pell, even if the HCA referred it back for retrial (and that depends on the Appeal grounds etc). It has gone way beyond the chance of a fair trial. It had already gone way beyond that.
I hate peodophiles.I’ll give you one short reason.
The more abuse I receive the more motivated I am to express my genuinely held beliefs. I hate mobs.
Thank youYou can't have your head in the sand if you are apparently across everything Pell.
How about you read the post a few pages back where a poster documented some of this evidence & you chose to not reply to the content.
Nah mate. It’s the same angry mob. Absent when it counts.
I’ve seen it over and over.
There’s a few brave souls come forward. But they stay quiet. Then a few more and they start to take notice. Then they see the momentum shift and they clamour to be front and centre of the narrative.
Dont post Evidence you'll drive the guy out of the discussion!Here you go Bruce, I have found the post for you.
Have a good read...