CheapCharlie
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Actually, 'd say it's far superior way of meeting people than going to a pub.Its just another avenue of meeting people. No different than going to a pub really.
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Actually, 'd say it's far superior way of meeting people than going to a pub.Its just another avenue of meeting people. No different than going to a pub really.
I'm 40. I (like most men) dated women from my teens through to mid 30s, 2 long term girlfriends in there.
Now, I let my last long term girlfriend go when I was 35
Just because you were looking for validation and self-worth in a relationship previously, doesn't mean that now that you have figured yourself out that you can't now enjoy the benefits of being in a relationship.I'm 40. I (like most men) dated women from my teens through to mid 30s, 2 long term girlfriends in there.
Now, I let my last long term girlfriend go when I was 35, I then decided to stop with relationships. I've spent the last 5 years on myself exclusively - I'm crushing it at work (senior management) and much happier, found time to a lot of reading on EQ and self improvement, I'm in the best shape of my life - always been fit, but now with an even stricter routine - no alcohol, clean eating etc, focused more on finance too. My mental and physical stamina has never been better.
Seriously, what I've achieved in the last 5 years personally compared to the previous 15 (post school) is just amazing to me. I've realised a change of mentality, a 180 degree shift without a female in my life. I've always been a confident lad, but it's dawned on me that I've used my partner(s) in the past as an excuse to not better myself, as if they helped validate my existence.
My view on women has changed exponentially! The times when I was single, I always had the next girl in my mind. Does she like me, how can I hook her, when should I ask her out etc, etc. I used to think about scenarios of us being together, often I'd spend months like this thinking about a particular girl. Not anymore. That time I used to waste is now spent on myself, the results are a far happier, more accomplished individual. I no longer require acceptance and validation from women (not that I don't enjoy it!), I don't chase them though - my confident (somewhat cocky) nature attracts a lot more women though, and sex is never difficult to find. Women find accomplished, fit men who show they clearly don't need women very, very attractive - just saying.
I'm not gloating, I can now reflect and appreciate why so many men are unhappy, depressed, insecure, etc. I was never in that place, but just didn't know how happy and content I could be. I feel that women often work us into this state of mind, it's a trap somewhat in my opinion. By no means do I think most do it intentionally, but I'm convinced that society is not doing men a favour at this point in time. I really don't wish to rag on women, but do truly believe their expectations are ludicrous, not to mention the level of self entitlement so many have. I blame media and political correctness / politics for this.
I did always see myself having kids, which I'd say is now unlikely - a bit of a sad thought. My niece / nephew are awesome though! I just don't wish to lose myself, my security / finances, my routine, my freedom. I'm surrounded by men (work colleagues, etc) who are married, with kids, yet are a shell of a man. Always complaining about their wives, calling work their happy place (WTF?!). When the kids leave the nest, what then??
Look after number 1 gents! Chasing / obtaining a certain female is not going to = happiness.
Just because you were looking for validation and self-worth in a relationship previously, doesn't mean that now that you have figured yourself out that you can't now enjoy the benefits of being in a relationship.
Perhaps. I just didn't focus on myself like I should have before, I don't even know for sure if validation was it. Probably more just social compliance, family expectation, etc. Just cruising on society's automatic pilot.
The problem I find with relationships is the trade offs. I'm not so pig-headed to expect to have it all my way (many, many men are), I just get tired of these common criticisms - multiple girls:
- Why is your routine so important?
- Why do you have to exercise all the time?
- Why can't we go out more / go away more?
The freedom to do more or less whatever you want, whenever you want is not easy to trade...
The older you get too, the more there is to lose if things do go sour! There's certainly no such thing as perfect relationship today IMO, people's expectations of their partner are just crazy. I'm out for now.
Anyone found themself in the position where they're fond of their partner and generally get on well with them, but at the same time wouldn't be inconsolable if you were to break up? If so how did it end up?
Normally I think it's hard to stay freinds or at least close.
Im basically saying my girlfriend is the more invested one in the relationship than me. In my previous relationships I've been the mkre invested one. I like her company but not 100 percent sure if I want to go down the married with children path. Not really sure what to do.
Im 25 and we've been together two years. We live together and can feel the pressure for that next stage will come from her sooner rather than later.
Im basically saying my girlfriend is the more invested one in the relationship than me. In my previous relationships I've been the mkre invested one. I like her company but not 100 percent sure if I want to go down the married with children path. Not really sure what to do.
Im 25 and we've been together two years. We live together and can feel the pressure for that next stage will come from her sooner rather than later.
Thanks. Are you happy now though? I feel like I should add that we are from different backgrounds and when I try to have conversations about different topics she is willfully ignorant and says 'i don't know anything about that'.
Above is a shitty comment but does lead to a lot of reoccurring conversation which leaves me bored. Is this something you would take in to consideration?
Apologies for the stream of consciousness.
I'd much rather be in a relationship (currently 30) rather than going through the onus of dating and casual sex.
I think it's a shame this mentality is so common. I know, I had it too! But, I broke off a long term relationship 5 years ago (when 35), and have stayed single since (dated a bit).
Met in 1982, married in 1984, had children in 1985 and 1987, separated in 2017, I love the single life now but we are connected forever through children, grand children and shared experiences, a lot happens in 35 years although when you think about it a lot can actually happen in a few seconds that can have a dramatic affect on your life.
Where the hell did my life go? Turning 60 next month.
I'm 40. I (like most men) dated women from my teens through to mid 30s, 2 long term girlfriends in there.
Now, I let my last long term girlfriend go when I was 35, I then decided to stop with relationships. I've spent the last 5 years on myself exclusively - I'm crushing it at work (senior management) and much happier, found time to a lot of reading on EQ and self improvement, I'm in the best shape of my life - always been fit, but now with an even stricter routine - no alcohol, clean eating etc, focused more on finance too. My mental and physical stamina has never been better.
Seriously, what I've achieved in the last 5 years personally compared to the previous 15 (post school) is just amazing to me. I've realised a change of mentality, a 180 degree shift without a female in my life. I've always been a confident lad, but it's dawned on me that I've used my partner(s) in the past as an excuse to not better myself, as if they helped validate my existence.
My view on women has changed exponentially! The times when I was single, I always had the next girl in my mind. Does she like me, how can I hook her, when should I ask her out etc, etc. I used to think about scenarios of us being together, often I'd spend months like this thinking about a particular girl. Not anymore. That time I used to waste is now spent on myself, the results are a far happier, more accomplished individual. I no longer require acceptance and validation from women (not that I don't enjoy it!), I don't chase them though - my confident (somewhat cocky) nature attracts a lot more women though, and sex is never difficult to find. Women find accomplished, fit men who show they clearly don't need women very, very attractive - just saying.
I'm not gloating, I can now reflect and appreciate why so many men are unhappy, depressed, insecure, etc. I was never in that place, but just didn't know how happy and content I could be. I feel that women often work us into this state of mind, it's a trap somewhat in my opinion. By no means do I think most do it intentionally, but I'm convinced that society is not doing men a favour at this point in time. I really don't wish to rag on women, but do truly believe their expectations are ludicrous, not to mention the level of self entitlement so many have. I blame media and political correctness / politics for this.
I did always see myself having kids, which I'd say is now unlikely - a bit of a sad thought. My niece / nephew are awesome though! I just don't wish to lose myself, my security / finances, my routine, my freedom. I'm surrounded by men (work colleagues, etc) who are married, with kids, yet are a shell of a man. Always complaining about their wives, calling work their happy place (WTF?!). When the kids leave the nest, what then??
Look after number 1 gents! Chasing / obtaining a certain female is not going to = happiness.
for example why does she still contact me when she is with another bloke?
p.s. An example of confusion or f’ed up behavior from the ex. I was going to go overseas this year before the pandemic struck, and whilst being with a bloke she wanted to come with me... There are more...
Anyway so im good now. So ive recently met someone online but we can't meet due to these restrictions we are all suffering with. We are going to meet but im thinking should i do this? Is it really worth it? I mean it's just a matter of time until this relationship if it gets off the ground burns out too. Why put myself through that again. I'm better off single and free, living the mgtow lifestyle. It's just the way it is. I really don't know.
She on the other hand rebounded within 2 months, soon after moved in with him repeating what she did with me, whilst keeping in contact. I tried to get her back, i apologized, showed her that my behavior had changed but to no avail.
Look women aren't that much different to men so don't take it personally.First let me say im sorry to read these sad stories and while some of these posts are a while ago now i hope everyone has come through ok and are happy where they are at.
I'd like to share my story somewhat belatedly..
I lived with my ex partner for 4 years in my house. She loved me wanted a family etc. She doesn't have any resources let alone a car. Had a twenty thousand credit card debt when i met her. I was a substance abuser which isn't an excuse but it didn't allow me to see things clearly and caused me to handle things poorly. Anyway its been 14 months or so since she left me. I understand why she did that and wondered why she didn't do it sooner. Thankfully, we didn't get married or have kids. I made sure of that. But its her post break up behavior that has confused me. In that time, i have cleaned myself up. She on the other hand rebounded within 2 months, soon after moved in with him repeating what she did with me, whilst keeping in contact. I tried to get her back, i apologized, showed her that my behavior had changed but to no avail. In hindsight thank you she didn't come back. She has always been on the fence about us. I look back and can't believe my actions and thoughts. What she has been doing and continues to do (we still speak but i'll make it clear she does 100% of initiating contacting) is clear as day. I allowed it though because soon after we split, she developed a very serious health issue and i felt i couldn't just cut her off. So we remained "friends". Anyway im in a much better place today. I realized that most of my pain was because of my attachment to her and co dependency. Once i broke that because time does truly heal all wounds, im ok. I speak to my mother about this quite often because to be honest the whole situation has confused the hell out of me, like for example why does she still contact me when she is with another bloke? Anyway, my mother continues to this day to tell me she will never let you go and she will return one day. That talk baffles me, it really does.
Anyway so im good now. So ive recently met someone online but we can't meet due to these restrictions we are all suffering with. We are going to meet but im thinking should i do this? Is it really worth it? I mean it's just a matter of time until this relationship if it gets off the ground burns out too. Why put myself through that again. I'm better off single and free, living the mgtow lifestyle. It's just the way it is. I really don't know.
p.s. An example of confusion or f’ed up behavior from the ex. I was going to go overseas this year before the pandemic struck, and whilst being with a bloke she wanted to come with me... There are more...
To get it all (love) you have to risk it all (heartbreak). Love, true love is worth itWhy put myself through that again.