Perth glory- robbed

[bok_party]

I agree with you, but the second yellow was soft in my opinion.

 

[Contador]

Homer is the only one talking sense.

Maybe those four Perth defenders should have stopped Berisha dribbling straight through them. Perth would have been extremely lucky if he had failed to score from that position.

Brisbane are the best team in the league and deserve the title.

 

[CakeEater]

All very valid. My hypothetical had Heffernan staying on (if he had any discipline), 1-1 at Full Time and anything happening. The ref made the big howler. Heffernan's departure simply gave the entire scenario the opportunity to arise.

Butterfly effect... If he didn't get sent off, anything else could have happened. After he got sent off, the controversy arose... What is factually incorrect there?

Thats heff though any keen followers of the a league could tell you he's that kind of player.

That challenge was needless by heff he was nowhere near it.

The other thing homer i would point out Is that there were 3 glory players there so heff no heff was immaterial really those three should have and did have it covered

 

[Raymond Rougeau]

So leaving a loaded gun in a shopping centre makes it ok for me to shoot people?

My god what happened to people

 

[Homer Jnr]

What part of your an idiot don't you get why has your brain hedged it's bets on something not attached to reality

In reality we what lead to this discussion

In homer land we have a convenient what if only homer thinks is good enough to hide behind

You just don't get it.....

I get it... I've agreed on the points about the penalty, the dive etc.

I'm only asking why no-one has given Heffernan a pasting. Getting sent in a GF is cardinal, let alone 1-1 closing in on Extra Time.

Read your posts seriously

You don't get logic do you?

Or do want to discuss if Pepsi was released before coke it would be more popular

This is how your brain works!

Logic would tell you that Heffernan being sent off took the game to 11vs10, robbing Perth of a player as they defended the Roar's final foray.

11vs10 during the final foray... Yes or no?

Everything else is an admitted hypothetical. Sorry for having some confidence in Heffernan to add something to his side when I discuss my hypothetical.

I'm not here to get called an idiot, when you simply are just trying to win an argument by yelling your point louder and louder, rather than addressing the topic at hand.

 

[Raymond Rougeau]

Homer we could what if for ever and change the history of the universe

 

[happy_eagle]

Q: What would have happened if the penalty wasnt given

A: We would have gone to extra time


THAT IS ALL YOU CAN CATEGORICALLY SAY IS TRUE (100% factual)

 

[Raymond Rougeau]

Q: What would have happened if the penalty wasnt given

A: We would have gone to extra time


THAT IS ALL YOU CAN CATEGORICALLY SAY IS TRUE (100% factual)

This is far to simple for people to accept.....

 

[Homer Jnr]

Q: What would have happened if the penalty wasnt given

A: We would have gone to extra time


THAT IS ALL YOU CAN CATEGORICALLY SAY IS TRUE (100% factual)

I think everyone categorically won't argue that point. In fact, can someone point our where that has been disputed?

 

[hoss]

Usually have a lot of respect for Homer Jnr but can't understand the attitude or arrogance in this thread. It was a very poor referees decision, and I don't know how it could be argued otherwise.

Basically when it comes to admin and umpiring in sport, soccer = boxing. AFL is only a bees dik above when you look at the favourable run the Eagles have had in 2012 with umpiring. Big money and big betting controls sport worldwide.

 

[Contador]

This is far to simple for people to accept.....

Noone is saying anything different.

 

[Homer Jnr]

Homer we could what if for ever and change the history of the universe

Was it 11vs10 for the final foray forward? Yes.

Did Berisha penetrate the defence and enter the box during this foray? Yes.

Was that made easier due to the numerical advantage? Yes.

Is Heffernan's stupidity and ill-discipline a major factor in allowing Berisha into the box? That's upto the individual to decide, based on the aforementioned facts, it is hard to say no.

 

[Raymond Rougeau]

How many times do you need to be told this does not excuse berishas actions

 

[Raymond Rougeau]

Berishas dishonesty is the cause here nothing else

 

[Homer Jnr]

Usually have a lot of respect for Homer Jnr but can't understand the attitude or arrogance in this thread. It was a very poor referees decision, and I don't know how it could be argued otherwise.

Basically when it comes to admin and umpiring in sport, soccer = boxing. AFL is only a bees dik above when you look at the favourable run the Eagles have had in 2012 with umpiring. Big money and big betting controls sport worldwide.

Hoss, I've never said the ref was right. I've been critical of his work in the box.

The only 'arrogance' was when a certain poster said I wasn't dealing in fact, and I dealt the fact of the result. I then followed up in saying that the facts that surrounded the result were based on a woeful penalty.

Hard to accept that as an attitude issue or arrogance.

Calling Heffernan to account for his discipline may rub some people the wrong way. If I supported the Glory, I'd be seething if a player got 2 yellows for stupid challenges. Let alone at that stage of the GF.

 

[hoss]

Berishas dishonesty is the cause here nothing else

I think that sums it up really, but as Homer Jnr said a lot of others would do the same thing in the same circumstances.

Well dishonesty and referee incompetence.

 

[RooBoyz24]

The A League need to suspend Berisha for 5 weeks.Make it hit him in the back pocket.Makes the A League look like a 2nd rate Comp.NAd being on G/F day thats why the penalty has to hurt.
Berisha is a fool and this guy is a disgrace.

 

[Homer Jnr]

How many times do you need to be told this does not excuse berishas actions

I've said he took a dive, it was a poor effort. You tend to keep ignoring the facts that I'm posting. Why?

 

[Raymond Rougeau]

Doesn't mean it's ok

Homer was asked how he felt in 06 re grosso don't believe he responded?

 

[hoss]

Hoss, I've never said the ref was right. I've been critical of his work in the box.

The only 'arrogance' was when a certain poster said I wasn't dealing in fact, and I dealt the fact of the result. I then followed up in saying that the facts that surrounded the result were based on a woeful penalty.

Hard to accept that as an attitude issue or arrogance.

Calling Heffernan to account for his discipline may rub some people the wrong way. If I supported the Glory, I'd be seething if a player got 2 yellows for stupid challenges. Let alone at that stage of the GF.

Fair enough, I accept that. I thought it was a bit uncool to post the result. I'm sure everyone here knows it, and knows it won't ever change.

 

[Raymond Rougeau]

Hubris

 

[Homer Jnr]

I think that sums it up really, but as Homer Jnr said a lot of others would do the same thing in the same circumstances.

Well dishonesty and referee incompetence.

Bingo.

Piss poor act, piss poor refereeing. But don't ever think that most other players wouldn't take the chance in the box at 1-1 in the 95th minute of a GF.

I will stress this, for Raymond's sake... No-one is excusing Berisha for taking a dive, simply stating that he wouldn't be a viking in this instance.

 

[Raymond Rougeau]

I'm hardly going to start a thread about me diving

This result and poor officiating hurts an already vulnerable product that should be in better shape so I'm pissed

The officiating is symbolic of the FFA admin


It all stinks...

 

[Homer Jnr]

Doesn't mean it's ok

Homer was asked how he felt in 06 re grosso don't believe he responded?

Sorry, I missed that. Wasn't sure if that was aimed at me or not.

Grosso is a diver, and I was furious. It didn't kill the code in Australia though.

Berisha is a diver, and alot of people are furious. I'm embarrassed, personally.

 

[Raymond Rougeau]

Well let's leave it at that then