Perth stadium - winner winner

[TY24]

No, I haven't been there. What I said was I'm sure station capacity could have been increased with $300 million. If that required buying out surrounding properties to add extra platforms, so be it. $300 million can go a long way when it's localised.

If you had actually been to Subiaco Oval and West Leederville station, you might understand building a new stadium there was a terrible idea.

It's a heavily populated suburban area serviced by 2 platform train station on a single train line. It couldn't even handle 35,000 people, let alone 60,000. West Leederville Station has next to no room for expansion without bulldozing the hill its built on and closing Railway Parade next to it. Perth Stadium Station is served by 3 lines, has 2 sets of 4 platform concourses, and was built on existing Transperth land.

There wasn't even enough room for the last expansion to Subiaco Oval, which is why the NAB stand on the southern wing is straight rather than being curved around the boundary like every other stand.

The only way to build a 60,000 seater on the existing site, or any of the land adjacent to it, would've had to involve permanent road closures, and purchasing land back from people who are under no obligation to sell.

It makes absolutely zero sense to use this location when you have a beautiful riverfront peninsula available that was already served by special event public transport at the casino and the trots, and is adjacent to a freeway.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

If you had actually been to Subiaco Oval and West Leederville station, you might understand building a new stadium there was a terrible idea.

Okay, fair enough, good points. Thank you for explaining it to me without becoming overly defensive like a certain other poster.

 

[budge27]

If you had actually been to Subiaco Oval and West Leederville station, you might understand building a new stadium there was a terrible idea.

It's a heavily populated suburban area serviced by 2 platform train station on a single train line. It couldn't even handle 35,000 people, let alone 60,000. West Leederville Station has next to no room for expansion without bulldozing the hill its built on and closing Railway Parade next to it. Perth Stadium Station is served by 3 lines, has 2 sets of 4 platform concourses, and was built on existing Transperth land.

There wasn't even enough room for the last expansion to Subiaco Oval, which is why the NAB stand on the southern wing is straight rather than being curved around the boundary like every other stand.

The only way to build a 60,000 seater on the existing site, or any of the land adjacent to it, would've had to involve permanent road closures, and purchasing land back from people who are under no obligation to sell.

It makes absolutely zero sense to use this location when you have a beautiful riverfront peninsula available that was already served by special event public transport at the casino and the trots, and is adjacent to a freeway.

On top of that Subi had a very limited bus drop area as well, unlike the new stadium which has dedicated bus Port with an area for literally 100 buses. Also the parking at Subi wasn’t a lot with people having to use nearby local streets and risked getting fined. Adding another 20,000 seats to this ground would have been ludicrous for getting people in and out of each week....

 

[HAPPY BUDDHA]

Was it worth the extra $500 million to put it next to the river instead of next to Subiaco Oval?

Yes because purchasing land back from uppity, elitist Subiaco residents to create enough room probably would have cost double that and the ones who did not want to sell would be suing for noise pollution every week.

 

[BartBart]

You talk like someone who doesn't know the setup of Perth at all.

Building something like this would have literally been impossible near Subi.

The locals fighting would have started with a laughable render of the stadium in The NIMBY Post (aka Cambridge Post).

 

[RedV3x]

Was it worth the extra $500 million to put it next to the river instead of next to Subiaco Oval?

Was it worth the extra $500 million

Closer to an extra $1 billion than $500 million. There was $ 600 million in transport infrastructure alone.
Also an estimated extra $300 million to build because is was built on the old rubbish dump/swamp site.

to put it next to the river instead of next to Subiaco Oval?

Subiaco was the least favoured option. You could have built the same new stadium in the CBD for less than the total outlay.
How much less depends upon how far back you look at the options available.

 

[Admiral Byng]

The new stadium is awesome. I can't imagine the new stadium would be possible to fit into Subi on the same scale. Subi is just a suburban ground with a few XL grandstands. The new stadium has a completely different feel about it, it is a purpose built facility. It is on it's own, surrounded by transport infrastructure with a park area buffer zone. Subi had residential housing literally just across the road. For anyone with experience of both, it is hard to imagine building an equivalent stadium in Subi without demolishing half the suburb.

Also, the new stadium has attracted events that Perth would previously miss out on. RL SoO, Bledisloe Cup, big band concert tours etc. So that adds a big plus to the equation.

Whether Burswood was the optimal location over some other (not-Subiaco) location is debatable. It did cost extra to build it where it is because of the geotech issues.