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To be honest we have about 10 players on the list the same as Rice and young enough to be at the club for a while.

Although if history repeats itself Rice will play in a Carlton premiership after getting shafted by st kilda. :p

But the kid seems scared of premierships so st kilda suits :p
 

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Must admit, i'm a bit surprised by the meltdown over Rice choosing the saints.
He has obviously gotten to know sone of the guys by training with them, maybe sees them being ahead of us at the moment. Like others have said, he's also more likely to get mo re e game time next year and that on top of proximity to his parents place are all in FL uential factors. He has not shown enough for me to feel like we have missed out on someone who we can't draft with our pick.
 

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Must admit, i'm a bit surprised by the meltdown over Rice choosing the saints.
He has obviously gotten to know sone of the guys by training with them, maybe sees them being ahead of us at the moment. Like others have said, he's also more likely to get mo re e game time next year and that on top of proximity to his parents place are all in FL uential factors. He has not shown enough for me to feel like we have missed out on someone who we can't draft with our pick.
It's not that.

It's the insult of not choosing us!

I would have welcomed him with open arms, the son of one of my favourites...but not now

Why Bailey!? Why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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There sure is a few tantrums in here. It must be the end of the world that he chose the Saints...

Reckon it helped that he won't need to move house next year, plus he gets along really well with a few of the other Saints guys already because he's spent a bit more time with them this year. Good on him i say.
 

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goes to show that kids/players will choose other clubs over us as long as we are a basket case. The last couple of years have not helped us at all with the way the club has perfomed and the perception is accurate. This club is so far behind powerhouse clubs and even clubs like st Kilda have rebuilt better than us and are 3-4 years more advanced.

Don't blame the kid for going when he has connections with both clubs and could choose where to go.
 
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goes to show that kids/players will choose other clubs over us as long as we are a basket case. The last couple of years have not helped us at all with the way the club has perfomed and the perception is accurate. This club is so far behind powerhouse clubs and even clubs like st Kilda have rebuilt better than us and are 3-4 years more advanced.

Don't blame the kid for going when he has connections with both clubs and could choose where to go.
I don't blame the young fella at all and wish him all the best, I blame passed administrations for the mire we are in. I totally agree with your above statement of how far we have fallen and to let it happen by the quick fix route has not helped our development. We need to get the best young talent and build a side around Bolton that will hopefully have people wanting to make Carlton their home in the future and be successful again.
 

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Look at the amount of time both clubs put in to Bailey and then think about his decision. Sessions at St. Kilda going over game footage and doing rehab for an injury while at Carlton he got a couple of games in our reserves. If anything we failed Bailey not the other way around. If he did make it to Carlton then I would treat him with the same respect and fondness that I give to any f/s selection (Buckley/SOSOS etc) and so should everyone else!!!!!
 
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No qualms about missing out on Bailey who had a tough decision on his hands.

Of course it would have been nice to see him nominate Carlton but there was always one supporter group going to be disappointed that he nominated the other.

St Kilda seemed to put a fair bit more into Bailey over the past few years so it was no huge surprise that he decided to go to the Saints rather than us. Good luck to him.
 

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Good luck to Bailey, I have no issue with this at all. He's a kid.

But if the Saints don't/can't match any offer pick wise, I hope we don't take him. Not sour grapes at all, only want people committed to this club.

I also don't want him here in the future if things are looking up. Or if the Saints are battling. That would prove he's a downhill skier & I think we're finally weeding them out.

This is no loss at all. He's made his Seaford bed & can enjoy laying in it.


This is bullshit. The Saints have done a lot more for Bailey than Carlton has so why would you expect him to choose us over them? The club failed Bailey not the other way around.
 

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Look at the amount of time both clubs put in to Bailey and then think about his decision. Sessions at St. Kilda going over game footage and doing rehab for an injury while at Carlton he got a couple of games in our reserves. If anything we failed Bailey not the other way around. If he did make it to Carlton then I would treat him with the same respect and fondness that I give to any f/s selection (Buckley/SOSOS etc) and so should everyone else!!!!!
Of course. I just think the sentimentality of having the son of a premiership player shouldn't over-ride the overall list structure. I think that Carlton has enough young players who can play Bailey's role so I'm happy that the club can potentially snare a young player who can play a role where we are deficient. No judgement on the player himself, here.
 

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Of course. I just think the sentimentality of having the son of a premiership player shouldn't over-ride the overall list structure. I think that Carlton has enough young players who can play Bailey's role so I'm happy that the club can potentially snare a young player who can play a role where we are deficient. No judgement on the player himself, here.

Sorry on my phone and clicked on the wrong message to respond to. It was more for one of the many posts complaining that Bailey chose the Saints over us.
 

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Could just be me but I'd prefer players that want to be at the club.

Just watch Silvagni jr talk about Carlton - that's what we need!

And if we put half of much time into Bailey as the Saints did then he probably would of shown us the same enthusiasm. Loyalty works both ways.
 

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And if we put half of much time into Bailey as the Saints did then he probably would of shown us the same enthusiasm. Loyalty works both ways.
Sure. But there's probably a reason we didn't (I don't know that as fact fwiw). I'm sure if we were desperate for the kid, we'd have pushed harder for him.
 

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Sure. But there's probably a reason we didn't (I don't know that as fact fwiw). I'm sure if we were desperate for the kid, we'd have pushed harder for him.

Then how can you use the "only want players who want to play for us" line if we didn't want him in the first place. You are basically acknowledging that he made the right decision .....
 

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Then how can you use the "only want players who want to play for us" line if we didn't want him in the first place. You are basically acknowledging that he made the right decision .....
He still had the choice. Despite whatever efforts were made by both clubs, if he was desperate to play for us (like Silvagni), he would have chose us.

The fact he hasn't isn't right or wrong. It just proves that playing for the Blues wasn't the first thing on his agenda.
 
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