Peter Dutton - How Long?

[Rob R]

Your response is incorrect and woefully uninformed. Reflecting pre-held prejudices rather than facts.

For the record, the program to change base names to reflect the indigenous history of their location is a small but important part of the latest iteration of a comprehensive Defence Reconciliation Action Plan that first started under the Rudd Government and is now in its 15th year.

This paragraph from the 2019-22 D-RAP provides an understanding of its intent:

The Department of Defence has made great strides throughout its reconciliation journey, and has remained dedicated to developing and maintaining mutually beneficial relationships with Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander businesses, peoples, and communities. In 2018, the Department spent over $455 million with Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander businesses, and had 605 contracts.

In this Stretch RAP, the Department of Defence has committed to being further guided by Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander stakeholders, and aims to research the impacts of its past policies and relationships with First Nations peoples. The Department does this with a view to learn and grow from history while being transparent.


Why Dutton decided to dump this particular low cost component of D-RAP for a Department that last year spent $3.5 Billion of taxpayers money is anyone's guess. But I suspect he, the guy who walked out of the apology to the stolen generations, just got triggered by thought of one of his agencies recognising indigenous culture. And cutting this little sub program was away of signalling to his far-right supporters where he stood on the issue without getting called out publicly for it (until now).

Another demonstration of just how soft this Peter Dutton guy is. But not in the way he would like everyone to think he is.

Actually reading the article again, I fully agree that he cancelled it for the wrong reasons but maintain it was the right call (by accident) as the program has been running for two years and ZERO bases appear to have been dual named indicating that as I said it is far more expensive and complex than just signs.

Give new bases indigenous names from the start and kill the program for existing bases until it can be done in a realistic time frame and cost (fix the wasteful Canberra bureaucracy first).

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[CM86]

Actually reading the article again, I fully agree that he cancelled it for the wrong reasons but maintain it was the right call (by accident) as the program has been running for two years and ZERO bases appear to have been dual named indicating that as I said it is far more expensive and complex than just signs.

Give new bases indigenous names from the start and kill the program for existing bases until it can be done in a realistic time frame and cost (fix the wasteful Canberra bureaucracy first).

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So the money had already been spent. And the final part was cancelled.

So it's not the money that you're taking issue with?

 

[Rob R]

So the money had already been spent. And the final part was cancelled.

So it's not the money that you're taking issue with?

I must be missing the part (or was that discussed somewhere else)where it says the money has been spent on the renaming- I saw where the money was spent to install the plaques but they sound like a separate measure which is still proceeding.

Of course it would be stupid to stop if the spending has happened especially as the actual outcome is a good one just not a priority.

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[CM86]

I must be missing the part (or was that discussed somewhere else)where it says the money has been spent on the renaming- I saw where the money was spent to install the plaques but they sound like a separate measure which is still proceeding.

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The Saturday Paper has confirmed that Dutton stepped in to reverse a then two-year-old plan to introduce dual naming of Australia’s main military bases. The change would have added local Indigenous-language names to the current English ones, as part of a policy working towards reconciliation.

About the same time, Dutton instructed Defence to stop pursuing “a woke agenda”.

He reversed a then, two year old plan...

How much did it cost to reverse the two year old plan?
Why doesn't that bother you?

 

[Crankyhawk]

So the money had already been spent. And the final part was cancelled.

So it's not the money that you're taking issue with?

Could be that it was a rort to various coalition mates which Dutton then shut down after the mates all got paid (ie the bullshit consultancies)

 

[Rob R]

He reversed a then, two year old plan...

How much did it cost to reverse the two year old plan?
Why doesn't that bother you?

Of course it bothers me, if he had concerns it should have been killed early. Not defending Dutton at all.

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[Maggie5]

Of course it bothers me, if he had concerns it should have been killed early. Not defending Dutton at all.

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I think you are missing the point. It should never have been canned.

 

[Gough]

I think you are missing the point. It should never have been canned.

When you remember soft and cuddly Peter wanted to import ten thousand Afrikaans farmers because he'd watched a Lauren Southern video it shouldn't surprise.

 

[kranky al]

What Rot.

This has NOTHING to do with saving money. All it involved was installing plaques at bases. That process had already been underway for 2 years when Dutton became minister with plaques installed at 206 Defence sites to date and more to come. The cost was insignificant.

Meanwhile that same idiot has spent $5.5 billion on paying the French NOT to build submarines his own incompetent government ordered.

We've got those ocean going nuclear subs coming off the slipways in 2050, right - AND a study underway into where we might put them when we get them!

Meanwhile our main attack helicopters are grounded due to a lack of spare parts, our future frigates program is plagued by technical and capability issues and our coastal patrol vessels are basically unarmed and focussed on fishing incursions.

In the words of Greg Sheridan, the Morrison Government has left us with a defence force incapable of stopping an invasion of penguins.

But hey - good on Dutton for stopping our Defence Department from adding Indigenous names to bases. Hundreds of dollars saved for each base. WOW!

Hopefully when russia and china take over the world - we get russia

 

[Demonic Ascent]

This is the guy the Liberals think will bring them back to government? A troglodyte who wants to take us all back to the 1950s

Exclusive: Dutton blocked Indigenous names at bases

As Peter Dutton addresses his decision to boycott the apology, it can be revealed he shut down reconciliation initiatives while serving as Defence minister.

www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au

After becoming Defence minister last year, Peter Dutton intervened to cancel an Australian Defence Force plan to give Australian military bases dual English and Indigenous names.

The Saturday Paper has confirmed that Dutton stepped in to reverse a then two-year-old plan to introduce dual naming of Australia’s main military bases. The change would have added local Indigenous-language names to the current English ones, as part of a policy working towards reconciliation.

About the same time, Dutton instructed Defence to stop pursuing “a woke agenda”.

So Dutton is to the right of the ADF and DOD

 

[Freomaniac]

Not a great start to leadership when your first comments are "now I know you all think I'm a monster, BUT..."

Peter Dutton reminds me of that evil person from Harry Potter movies lol

 

[Engimal v3]

Peter Dutton reminds me of that evil person from Harry Potter movies lol

I think he looks like a handsome young man

 

[Gough]

I think he looks like a handsome young man

He looks like Gollum.

 

[carltonchelsea]

Has he ever been categorically ruled out of being one of the Pinkanba 6?

 

[Gough]

In one breath he's trying to convince us that the Libs are the party of the workers, the next that the ALP have drifted to far left. He all over the place like a mad woman's knitting.

 

[campbell]

I think he looks like a handsome young man

Please sir, take time to see an optometrist.

 

[Mick F]

What Rot.

This has NOTHING to do with saving money. All it involved was installing plaques at bases. That process had already been underway for 2 years when Dutton became minister with plaques installed at 206 Defence sites to date and more to come. The cost was insignificant.

Meanwhile that same idiot has spent $5.5 billion on paying the French NOT to build submarines his own incompetent government ordered.

We've got those ocean going nuclear subs coming off the slipways in 2050, right - AND a study underway into where we might put them when we get them!

Meanwhile our main attack helicopters are grounded due to a lack of spare parts, our future frigates program is plagued by technical and capability issues and our coastal patrol vessels are basically unarmed and focussed on fishing incursions.

In the words of Greg Sheridan, the Morrison Government has left us with a defence force incapable of stopping an invasion of penguins.

But hey - good on Dutton for stopping our Defence Department from adding Indigenous names to bases. Hundreds of dollars saved for each base. WOW!

You are better than letting trolls suck you in.

 

[Festerz]

You are better than letting trolls suck you in.

Nah. I'm not.

But I lay out the facts in lengthy posts to soothe the anger...

Yep. I'm that petty.

 

[Nikita Blue]

What a shadow treasury dream team.

 

[Festerz]

What a shadow treasury dream team.

Opposition Leader Peter Dutton unveiled his frontbench on Sunday afternoon, saying the Coalition has an “incredible depth of talent” and he has brought forward some former backbenchers for new opportunities, while some allies of former prime minister Scott Morrison were demoted.

‘Impressive appointments’ to Coalition frontbench in post-election reshuffle

Ten women will be in the Coalition’s shadow cabinet, including Jane Hume in finance and Karen Andrews in home affairs, while the Nationals will retain six spots.

www.smh.com.au

Dutton takes his first dive into his Incredible Depth of Talent™

 

[QuietB]

Igor elliott did it here with train stations.


Why do conservatives hate the indigenous ?

They don’t really hate the indigenous.

They simply cannot resist a culture war. There is no culture war too small or too irrelevant for them not to fight.

 

[QuietB]

What a shadow treasury dream team.

Imagine if Angus Taylor ever was treasurer

 

[NSWCROW]

That weasel alex hawke dumped lol

 

[Punt rd end]

What a shadow treasury dream team.

Apart from the obvious shit show on the rest
How does stuart robert get a gig? he is as dumb as dog shit, does he know where the skeletons are buried

 

[Maggie5]

Apart from the obvious shit show on the rest
How does stuart robert get a gig? he is as dumb as dog shit, does he know where the skeletons are buried

What about Hastie in Defence? Why because he carried a gun?

Cupboard is bare as.