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A "witch hunt".

LOL, from the party that gave us eight, count 'em, eight separate enquiries into the home insulation scheme, even though the CSIRO had found the death rate for installers during the scheme was actually lower than before the scheme.

 
A "witch hunt".

LOL, from the party that gave us eight, count 'em, eight separate enquiries into the home insulation scheme, even though the CSIRO had found the death rate for installers during the scheme was actually lower than before the scheme.

Good post.

But do we really need a full blown and highly expensive Royal Commission into the RoboDebt scandal?

I would say no. An external review with its recommendations presented to Cabinet and thence to Parliament is all that is required to ensure reform.

This is politicking. And pointing to the politicking of previous administrations does not change that fact.
 
Good post.

But do we really need a full blown and highly expensive Royal Commission into the RoboDebt scandal?

I would say no. An external review with its recommendations presented to Cabinet and thence to Parliament is all that is required to ensure reform.

This is politicking. And pointing to the politicking of previous administrations does not change that fact.

A Royal Commission can call witnesses and compel them to give evidence. Do you honestly think the Libs would cooperate, attend or give evidence to an ALP run review?

It's the only way to find out who was responsible for what.

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Good post.

But do we really need a full blown and highly expensive Royal Commission into the RoboDebt scandal?

I would say no. An external review with its recommendations presented to Cabinet and thence to Parliament is all that is required to ensure reform.

This is politicking. And pointing to the politicking of previous administrations does not change that fact.
I'd say yes, simply because of the scale of the Robodebt disgrace.

This wasn't some tinpot little scheme, it affected hundreds of thousands of people and warranted compensation in the billions.

You can add in the fact that it was illegal, plus the suicides of at least two people (that I can think of) can be reasonably linked back to it.

Definitely warrants more than an external review. A full investigation, in the form of an RC, is fully justified.
 
A Royal Commission can call witnesses and compel them to give evidence. Do you honestly think the Libs would cooperate, attend or give evidence to an ALP run review?

It's the only way to find out who was responsible for what.

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Don't we already know who was responsible? He's currently sitting on the backbench, embroiled in another controversy.
 

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True, he and Tudge. And there are penalties for lying to a Royal Commission, which provide greater teeth than a parliamentary enquiry.

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Don't forget the disgraced former Attorney General and alleged rapist Christian Porter is neck deep in it as well.
 
True, he and Tudge. And there are penalties for lying to a Royal Commission, which provide greater teeth than a parliamentary enquiry.

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More often than not, politicians simply claim "I don't recall" and everyone moves on. Even if you can get them to admit culpability, I'm not sure if there is any evidence of a crime having been committed... so the only ramifications are political. In the case of Scott Morrison, his political capital can't get any worse, really.

Royal Commissions are generally designed to investigate and better understand systemic issues, so that they can be fixed. The issue with Robodebt seems to be a matter of policy more than anything. I'm just struggling to understand what value will come from the whole process. We know it was a failure. We know the scale of the failure. We know who was responsible. What is Royal Commission going to recommend?
 
More often than not, politicians simply claim "I don't recall" and everyone moves on. Even if you can get them to admit culpability, I'm not sure if there is any evidence of a crime having been committed... so the only ramifications are political. In the case of Scott Morrison, his political capital can't get any worse, really.

Royal Commissions are generally designed to investigate and better understand systemic issues, so that they can be fixed. The issue with Robodebt seems to be a matter of policy more than anything. I'm just struggling to understand what value will come from the whole process. We know it was a failure. We know the scale of the failure. We know who was responsible. What is Royal Commission going to recommend?
There's certainly a case that Morrison and other members of the government knew Robodebt was illegal and proceeded with it anyway. If that's the case there has to be consequences.
 
There's certainly a case that Morrison and other members of the government knew Robodebt was illegal and proceeded with it anyway. If that's the case there has to be consequences.
I'm pretty sure they admitted that it was unlawful but proceeded anyway.
 
I'm pretty sure they admitted that it was unlawful but proceeded anyway.
Then questioning them under oath may lead to criminal proceedings. There will be private and public conversations, email chains and meeting minutes that can bring the truth to light and it deserves to be.

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I'm pretty sure they admitted that it was unlawful but proceeded anyway.
But the Minister for Human Services, Scott Morrison, told the AGD (Scott Morrison) and all the junior ministers in those portfolios (a bunch of Scott Morrisons) that the PM was ok with it
 

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Deputy Leader Sussan Ley tells Sky News that

“No one in the world is making Electric Utes”

Dutton and Ley live in a backward looking bubble. Ford has a three-year backlog for the Ford F-150 Lightning, thanks to sky-high demand.


Dutton and Ley. The Liberals Dream Team.

 
Mr 17% 'has hardly put a foot wrong'. The delusion continues.




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