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Peter Siddle

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Knight Ryders said:
Look this is not going to be popular but I think Siddle has plenty of talent and is currently being not very well captained and coached.

He has shown that he can move it both ways at pace and at times gets good bounce. I think that there is plenty to work with, but giving him ridiculous plans to bowl short shit constantly is devaluing what he can actually do with the ball.

I'm sure this post will be ridiculed, but I'll stick with my opinion. Kids got talent - just needs nurturing.
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Well i for one agree with you . Hes got a heart like a bullock and can generate a lot of pace and agro when required.The other thing is he is a cricketer.Hes doesnt want to do 4 interviews a week on fox sports or do deoderant commercials like the nsw"s w***ers.
 
nah he's poor. shows limited control. surprised the poms on day 1 by pitching it up but i reckon you can put that spell down to a bit of luck and english nerves on the opening day of the ashes. now that they've settled in he's struggling to penetrate

its alright to say, oh yeah he's gold but he's just not being captained right but fact of the matter is if he wasn't ricky's mate and didn't brown nose ricky like he does he wouldn't be in the team

i see they've picked him for the world cup squad too. rofl
 
well done today, without you the carnage would be even worse. single handedly tried to keep australia in the game with 3 wickets and two catches, involved in every wicket to fall today:thumbsu: pity your fighting qualities and refusal to see the ashes slip away arent shared by most of your teammates. only one to stand tall in this crucial test under the pressure.
 
Let's not re-write history here. Siddle was decidedly ordinary in both Adelaide and Perth. Why did he not stand up then?

That said, he has been easily the pick of our bowlers this Test. He's a completely different bowler when he pitches it up. I don't know whether it's him or Ponting that comes up with the "bang-it-in-short" plans, but it just doesn't suit his bowling. He either needs to grow a brain, or grow some balls, and make a habit of trying to knock over off stump. He looks a million times better when he does that.
 

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bloodstainedangel5 said:
Let's not re-write history here. Siddle was decidedly ordinary in both Adelaide and Perth. Why did he not stand up then?

That said, he has been easily the pick of our bowlers this Test. He's a completely different bowler when he pitches it up. I don't know whether it's him or Ponting that comes up with the "bang-it-in-short" plans, but it just doesn't suit his bowling. He either needs to grow a brain, or grow some balls, and make a habit of trying to knock over off stump. He looks a million times better when he does that.
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Not sure, but given he has been far and away our best bowler at both Brisbane and Melbourne now, it's hard to criticise him. No one else has managed to show up twice.

My only suggestion is that Siddle seems to lift at certain times - at Boxing Day, on his birthday, when he's being booed by the opposition fans, he is faster and more dangerous than at any other time. He needs to become more consistent for sure, but at least he was there when no one else was.
 
get yer hand off it mate. we suck the puss across the board. siddle is an integral part of team ricky and is squarely to blame with all the others for the ongoing mediocrity and pea heartedness that has seen us hit the bottom over the last years. he is the first picked when fit because he's pontings mate and has been keeping other blokes (most notably stuey clark in 2009) out of the side. he shows up to play maybe every 4th game. the rest of the time he serves up inexplicable rubbish and we carry him. i'm glad now that ponting will be gone after sydney. his captaincy style and continually having a hand in picking weak minded blokes because they will do what he tells them rather than blokes who have a bit of nouse and have their own plans and match awareness and want to set their own fields has been a disaster
 
STC said:
Not sure, but given he has been far and away our best bowler at both Brisbane and Melbourne now, it's hard to criticise him. No one else has managed to show up twice.

My only suggestion is that Siddle seems to lift at certain times - at Boxing Day, on his birthday, when he's being booed by the opposition fans, he is faster and more dangerous than at any other time. He needs to become more consistent for sure, but at least he was there when no one else was.
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He, like North but with the ball, has his days then goes missing for a few Tests. Great today but the problem is when we'll need him and Johnson on song to tie the series they'll bowl poo again. Since that first spell in Brisbane he had one wicket until today since and they've got 1/517 and 5/620.

Great today or it would've been a nightmare but we need that for Test after Test, after Test. If he did that and Johnson bowled with the same skill as in Perth, even with out those results, they could both stay in the team as long as they like. But Siddle's Test record is not so good and not dissimilar to being a bowling version of North. I'm sick of one-off's then total garbage. We keep losing series.

But, no criticism today, he did very well.
 
"I'm sick of one-off's then total garbage. We keep losing series."

Everyone is. None of them appear capable of operating as a team and supporting each other, not batting, not bowling. I know cricket is to some extent a game of individual contests in a team environment, but our lot are taking it to an extreme.

This is what the West Indies are like. It's every player for themselves - unless Nash and Chanderpaul are together - they appear to operate like they know what each other is doing.
 
I wish Sids could keep that pressure up in every test match, he really lead the way today with no real support
 
He will bowl well again in Sydney, you can guarantee it and like the Ashes in 2009, he will be bagged mercislessly and people claim he should have been dropped yet will end up Australias leading wicket taker

Oh I do laugh at the above comment about Stuart Clark, how did he go at the Oval again?

Australia dont have Warne and McGrath anymore, there isnt any bowler who will take bags every match, yet the one bloke who has never taken a bag of wickets in his life is praised and the one who every couple of games tears through the opposition is bagged unrelentlessly even when he does well

So far he has 2 good tests, 1 poor test and the other one he bowled well in the very few overs he received, hardly a bad series despite the Siddle haters rewriting history
 
eddiesmith said:
...the one who every couple of games tears through the opposition is bagged unrelentlessly even when he does well
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jeez give it a rest mate. talk about rewriting history

and re stuey clark and 2009 - yes he was ordinary at the oval on a pitch prepared to suit england's spin attack.

at headingley he came in and, surprise surprise, an injection of class and nouse cracked the english top order and turned the wet toilet paper attack of siddle, hilf and johnson around. we looked like a different team all of a sudden and won by an innings. he should've played every game, especially at lords. he was the highest ranked test bowler in the world, a veteran of english conditions and the curse of the english top order who had been having nightmares about him since he destroyed them in 2006-7. instead he was kept out because he wasn't mates with punter and he spoke his mind instead of contributing nothing to the brains trust and just running in doing what he was told by the tactical genius that is ricky ponting. massive f--- up. the fact he had a poor test on a wicket deliberately prepared not to suit him doesn't change the fact siddle was taking his spot and we have been losing consistently since siddle has been in the team. make of that what you will
 
mattymac said:
jeez give it a rest mate. talk about rewriting history

and re stuey clark and 2009 - yes he was ordinary at the oval on a pitch prepared to suit england's spin attack.

at headingley he came in and, surprise surprise, an injection of class and nouse cracked the english top order and turned the wet toilet paper attack of siddle, hilf and johnson around. we looked like a different team all of a sudden and won by an innings. he should've played every game, especially at lords. he was the highest ranked test bowler in the world, a veteran of english conditions and the curse of the english top order who had been having nightmares about him since he destroyed them in 2006-7. instead he was kept out because he wasn't mates with punter and he spoke his mind instead of contributing nothing to the brains trust and just running in doing what he was told by the tactical genius that is ricky ponting. massive f--- up. the fact he had a poor test on a wicket deliberately prepared not to suit him doesn't change the fact siddle was taking his spot and we have been losing consistently since siddle has been in the team. make of that what you will
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I take it we are ignoring the part where Peter Siddle takes 10 wickets and Clark 4 wickets in the 2 test matches they played together. Also that Stuart Clarks tearing up of the English top order was Cook, Collingwood and BROAD! I think the pitch played a big part in that result not Clark and they could have played Hauritz and had the exact same result, however they might have had a chance at the Oval if they hadnt picked Clark..

Oh I also take it this veteran of English conditions is due to his awesome 13 first class County matches he had played in his life because he sure as hell had never played a test there...

Anymore rewriting of history you would like to do because mine history is actually based on facts...
 

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Bowled very well today. Bowled very well first innings at Brisbane. Bowled shithouse in between. He has to back up good bowling performances, by not switching his brain off. When he pitches up ala today he's a good bowler, but too often he tries to be an 'agressor' despite not having a threatening short ball, especially when he repeatedly bowls short outside off.

It's frustrating because he doesnt seem to realise how he bowls his best, regularly slipping back to the short shite after a good spell. I have no probs with him in the side when he bowls well, but he has to back up good performances.
 
One of the great legends of history is how 'Stuart Clark bowled us to victory at Headingly in 2009'.

Facts are:

1) he didn't come into the attack in the first innings until the score was 2/33.
2) He was the 4th Australian bowler to get a wicket (so he didn't 'show them the correct line to bowl').
3) He took 3/18 in the first innings.
4) He took 0/74 in the second innings.
 
You know what is really starting to get on my wick? Mitchell Johnson being praised by commentators because he managed to bowl a ball in the correct spot. That's under 13s stuff. When a bowler makes it to Test cricket, you should be able to take for granted that he has enough control to bowl a consistent line and length.

We shouldn't be sitting there when Johnson is thrown the ball, wondering if he's going to hit the mowed part of the wicket. Whoever is coaching cricketers these days should hang their heads in shame because they are doing a crap job.

We're not talking about being a fraction out with Johnson, when he's bad he's a freaking shocker. It happens way too often and it's just not good enough.
 
siddle showed once again he has the ability to get multiple wickets in an innings, something hilfy doesnt do. Siddle needs to get more consistent from test to test but bowlers like siddle and johnson show they can run through an innings which is important
 

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Definately put himself ahead of Hilfy in mine (and others) estimations. Hilf hasnt got his mojo back post knee injury really. Still a bowler to have around especially for overseas tours to England Saf and NZ but near useless here unfortunately.
With Harris's injury tho maybe Hilf will play Sydney.
 
Dear god. Siddle taking wickets in this Test just gives him free reign to be crap for another couple of matches. Just like Johnson taking a bag in Perth... suddenly he's back to being our "spearhead". All it does is delay the inevitable truth... our attack is shit.
 
Tyberious Funk said:
Dear god. Siddle taking wickets in this Test just gives him free reign to be crap for another couple of matches. Just like Johnson taking a bag in Perth... suddenly he's back to being our "spearhead". All it does is delay the inevitable truth... our attack is shit.
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This.

Pretty weird to see any bowler being praised when his team has just conceded over 500 (again), not to mention a first innings deficit of more than 400. :eek:

Shocking effort from the entire team so far in this series, and only Hussey and Watson can really walk away with their heads held anywhere above the vertical atm.

The bowlers, Siddle large among them, have been horrendous.
 
Arbuckle said:
This.

Pretty weird to see any bowler being praised when his team has just conceded over 500 (again), not to mention a first innings deficit of more than 400. :eek:

Shocking effort from the entire team so far in this series, and only Hussey and Watson can really walk away with their heads held anywhere above the vertical atm.

The bowlers, Siddle large among them, have been horrendous.
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6/75 not worth a mention eh?

Has taken "6 for" twice in 6 innings

Most wickets for Aust @ 28 for the series.

An invaluable 35no in the 1st innings at Perth.

Inconsistent? yep but cut the bloke some slack - he's our youngest bowler playing in his 20th test match. Just needs to fine tune a few things.

His upside/future is far better than anything else we have at the moment.
 

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