Says who? Only Richmond supporters!

Kreuzer debuted and stayed in the 22 (practically carrying our ruck) until his knee injury. You really are on drugs if you think Cotchin was anywhere near Kreuzer after year 1.
Says the NAB rising star voters.
Cotchin came 3rd playing only 15 games. Kreuzer game 5th from memory (maybe 4th) playing close to the whole season.
Says the bookies and punters, who had Cotchin at $31 to win the rising star and had Kreuzer at $51.
Says 70% of the people on the polls board:
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=514403&highlight=kreuzer+cotchin&page=1
And that's asking who suited Carlton better, not who had the better year.
I'm not sure why I brought it up because it doesn't matter who was ahead after year 1 or 2, only year 3 and beyond.
Having said that I thought you would be unbiased enough to admit that Cotch was ahead after year 1, with Kreuzer clearly being ahead after year 2.
Year 3 I can accept you saying Kreuzer, but I generally don't rate ruckmen full stop and rate them almost solely on their work around the ground.
Keep stringing him along. The more times he says it the more likely we are to get some decent sigs out of it
How'd that last one work out?
The one about Richmond being in a good position to attract some opposition players?
Then why do you think he is better than Kruezer (even though they are different players)
I really cant have a decent conversation with someone who has Simmons and Hislop in their names. In all seriousness are you taking the piss.... or are you that delusional?
I generally don't rate ruckmen that highly, because even the tap work of the best is pretty horrible and often to disadvantage. Cotchins work around the ground is better than Kreuzers hence why I rate him higher. I also think Kreuzer's a bit overated as a forward. He's a handy option but probably no better than most other big guys who cause mismatches with their height.