Chip was not the coach in wk 17.
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Nelson Agholor ladies and gentleman:
Jokes aside, I hope he bounces back, it sucks for everyone involved with the eagles if he is not playing well.
His poor play takes attention away the absolute whiff Mills had on the 72 yard td to start the scoring.
Desean Jackson had a problem with drops, and it cost him alot of money as he was coming out of is rookie contract. Nelson will never be an elite pass catcher like Dez or Fitzy, but he can improve.
He's definitely been far from perfect - some of the play calling has been completely baffling. He still probably gets another season or two.Unfortunately I think you're right Jatz, however he has made so many play calling mistakes this year, not to mention the team playing garbage and getting a lot worse lately.
Where did you all think we'd finish before the start of the season?
You're not going to find any. We started the season on fire. Maintaining that level was never going to be possible with this squad.6 or 7 wins. But like I said it's not about the losses, it's the manner in which we are being embarrassed. The team should be showing some/any signs of improvement. Name any player that looks better now than they did after say week 4? I struggle to think of any.
Where did you all think we'd finish before the start of the season?
Coach doesn't need to go, yet.
Tell me, how does a new coach suddenly make our WR's catch a football? How does a new coach make a rookie QB stay at a high level throughout the season.
There are so many fundamental issues in this side that can't just be attributed to the coach. I'd be happy cutting a lot of our squad before seeing Pederson giving the flick after 11 games.
I'm with this.
I don't understand how people can claim to know that Pederson has "lost the dressing room". We've seen what that looks like - and it was only a year ago. Today was nothing like that.
For a team to not be motivated or to appear discouraged is not always down to the coach. It could be down to any number of things.
What we do know is that we're playing with a makeshift O-line. We have the worst WR corp in the NFL. We lost our best RB and our 2nd best RB/3rd down RB is playing (very) hurt - and likely wouldn't be playing if Mathews was fit. Our secondary was always rubbish.
And none of this is Pederson's fault! It's not even Roseman's fault. Unless we want our team to become the Browns mach II, the notion of firing a coach when he's barely had the opportunity to start building his own team is ******* ridiculous.
That teams started figuring out how to play Wentz is to be expected. For teams to start figuring out how Schwarz's defence worked with the Eagles is to be expected.
The last page of this thread is everything that is wrong with Eagles fans, and it's why I have frequently referred to Eagles fans as the Richmond fans of the NFL - give us a couple of wins and people think we're world beaters, give us a couple of losses and everyone is shithouse and should be sacked.
It is possible for there to be a middle ground. We're a team with a first year coach, running a first year offence; we have a new defensive coordinator who is running a first year defence. We have a first year QB. We have makeshift bits and pieces all over the offence, and a couple on the defence at the moment.
Just give it a rest, please. I think I said in this thread a few months ago that we would do well to win 5 or 6 games this year. That expectation doesn't - or at least shouldn't - change just because Wentz got a hot start when none of our opponents (Browns, Bears, Steelers at home) a. had a chance to get some comprehensive notes on Wentz, and b. weren't any good to begin with.
We've lost to:
Washington
Detroit (leading their division)
Dallas (who are probably the best team in the NFC - and yes, some play calling hurt us, but we didn't deserve to win it anyway)
the Giants (who were in the midst of a 7-match win streak)
Seattle (who are probably the 2nd best team in the NFC)
Green Bay (who have the best QB in the world that was starting to find some form)
I can accept that Washington was a disappointing loss in the context of the season, but this morning was the first really bad loss we've had this season. People need to settle the **** down.
I'm with this.
I don't understand how people can claim to know that Pederson has "lost the dressing room". We've seen what that looks like - and it was only a year ago. Today was nothing like that.
For a team to not be motivated or to appear discouraged is not always down to the coach. It could be down to any number of things.
What we do know is that we're playing with a makeshift O-line. We have the worst WR corp in the NFL. We lost our best RB and our 2nd best RB/3rd down RB is playing (very) hurt - and likely wouldn't be playing if Mathews was fit. Our secondary was always rubbish.
And none of this is Pederson's fault! It's not even Roseman's fault. Unless we want our team to become the Browns mach II, the notion of firing a coach when he's barely had the opportunity to start building his own team is ******* ridiculous.
That teams started figuring out how to play Wentz is to be expected. For teams to start figuring out how Schwarz's defence worked with the Eagles is to be expected.
The last page of this thread is everything that is wrong with Eagles fans, and it's why I have frequently referred to Eagles fans as the Richmond fans of the NFL - give us a couple of wins and people think we're world beaters, give us a couple of losses and everyone is shithouse and should be sacked.
It is possible for there to be a middle ground. We're a team with a first year coach, running a first year offence; we have a new defensive coordinator who is running a first year defence. We have a first year QB. We have makeshift bits and pieces all over the offence, and a couple on the defence at the moment.
Just give it a rest, please. I think I said in this thread a few months ago that we would do well to win 5 or 6 games this year. That expectation doesn't - or at least shouldn't - change just because Wentz got a hot start when none of our opponents (Browns, Bears, Steelers at home) a. had a chance to get some comprehensive notes on Wentz, and b. weren't any good to begin with.
We've lost to:
Washington
Detroit (leading their division)
Dallas (who are probably the best team in the NFC - and yes, some play calling hurt us, but we didn't deserve to win it anyway)
the Giants (who were in the midst of a 7-match win streak)
Seattle (who are probably the 2nd best team in the NFC)
Green Bay (who have the best QB in the world that was starting to find some form)
I can accept that Washington was a disappointing loss in the context of the season, but this morning was the first really bad loss we've had this season. People need to settle the **** down.