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Citing a "half dozen players, plus other sources close to the team," Philly Voice reports Carson Wentz created tension in the Eagles' 2018 locker room and "complicated" the offense.

We weren't quite sure what to make of the story by Joseph Santoliquito but decided to at least pass it along. Santoliquito paints a picture of a young franchise quarterback navigating growing pains as well as ego. Per Santoliquito, Wentz has a great relationship with Nick Foles but less so with other teammates. Santoliquito also reports Wentz was prone to going off script this season after losing Frank Reich as offensive coordinator. For their part, many of Wentz's teammates/Eagles officials have gone on the record to strongly deny the story. Regardless of how much of this is noise, Wentz will certainly be on the spot in 2019. It's been a bizarre 1.5 years for a player who was cruising toward MVP honors in 2017 before shredding his knee.


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regardless, potential franchise QB has an ego, demands certain standards, wants to get his own way....sound familiar at all?...

anyways, a more balanced overview is probably expressed here -

https://94wip.radio.com/blogs/eliot-shorr-parks/carson-wentz-thoughts-explosive-story

From my perspective, having covered Wentz since he came to Philadelphia, the truth is somewhere in the middle. Does Wentz have a bigger ego than perhaps the public might want to believe? Yes. That isn’t necessarily a bad thing, however, as any team would want their quarterback to have an ego to some degree. That ego has never shown itself in terms of dealing with the media or in the locker room from what I can tell, however. The ego is more in terms of being confident in what he can do and what he likes in terms of the offense. That is something coaches have discussed before — Wentz enjoys putting his own stamp on the offense and taking part in the gameplan throughout the week. It is easy to see how that could be perceived by some as uncompromising, selflish or egotistical.
As for the other criticisms of Wentz, I can only speak to what I have been told by players over the last three years, and my observations of how Wentz is received in the locker room. I do not believe Wentz is viewed anywhere close to as harshly or as negatively by his teammates as the article, intentional or not, might make it seem. One thing I have learned from covering the NFL is that players, more than almost anything else, know who can play and who can't. The players in the Eagles locker room know that Wentz is an elite talent. The combination of his talent, along with the fact that he is respected and does get along with the majority of the roster, leads me to believe the Eagles do not have an issue on their hand with Wentz going forward.
 

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I'll wear the 'Wentz targets Ertz too much' argument as at time Wentz clearly has when better options are available but to say that's because there's locker-room tension & not because Ertz is an out & out stud, yeah I call bulls**t on that.

Reads like it's a poorly researched story with no right of reply given to those involved prior to publication. In other words - clickbait.
 

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I'll wear the 'Wentz targets Ertz too much' argument as at time Wentz clearly has when better options are available but to say that's because there's locker-room tension & not because Ertz is an out & out stud, yeah I call bulls**t on that.

Reads like it's a poorly researched story with no right of reply given to those involved prior to publication. In other words - clickbait.
Every quarterback has receivers they're more comfortable with. Try telling anyone Drew Brees targetted Thomas too much in our playoff loss.

The question is whether or not it harmed our offence, and I don't think anyone's ever put together a decent argument that it did. We were remarkably successful targeting Ertz. And Foles targetted him pretty much as often as Wentz did.

I don't think the difference in our offence was really the quarterback play. It was that Foles's entire sample size in the back end of the year came when our o-line had finally gelled, and we had a run game showing up. By the time either of those things happened, Wentz had stress factures already. Also, we'd finally stopped our 'force the ball to Golden Tate to justify the trade' routine.

Having said that, people appear to be forgetting that the last we saw of Wentz he was moving the ball at will against a very good Dallas defence, including multiple game tying drives. Whilst injured.

He's an exceptional quarterback, and will be even better.
 

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Absolutely, Eagles & any fans with half a brain are all in on Wentz, nuts not to be.

All I'd say with targetting is that everyone needs to eat, yes you have your main guys but the rest need loving as well, esp when they're wide open. I'm sure that aspect of his game will improve as he matures.
 

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Wentz responds to the recent article criticising him

Complete transcript of Carson Wentz's conversation with select media
By NBC Sports Philadelphia Staff February 04, 2019 6:00 AM



Eagles quarterback Carson Wentz last week sat down with a select group of reporters, including our Reuben Frank and Dave Zangaro.
Wentz pointed out inaccuracies in the PhillyVoice report (see story), but acknowledged that he can be selfish (see story).
Below is the full transcript of the media session.
Q: At what point did you hear about the story that PhillyVoice did and what was your initial reaction?
Carson:
“I heard it that morning. John (Gonoude from Eagles PR) actually sent it over to me and I was, like, I just read it and I was a little confused, I guess. It’s never obviously fun to read your name being thrown around like that, but at the end of the day, try not to stress about it too much and let the media or the perception of others dictate who I am. I know who I am, first of all. I know how I carry myself, I know I’m not perfect, I know I have flaws. So I’m not going to sit here and say it was inaccurate and completely made up, I’m not going to do that. But at the end of the day, I will say our locker room is really close. If there were guys that had issues, in hindsight, I wish we could have just talked about them. But, again, I don’t know how that all happened and everything with that. Again, it’s never fun to read, but to extent, you look at it and be like, ‘well, if someone did have this perception of me, why? What have I done wrong? What can I get better at? I realize I have my shortcomings. Yes, I can be selfish. I think we all have selfishness inside of us. There’s human elements to that, that I really look at and say, ‘well, I can get better.’ I always say I can be better on the field, off the field, how I carry myself. But I didn’t want to make it bigger than … I think everyone probably ran with it different ways and I just kind of said, ‘look, I’m just going to live my life out here and I’m going to let that kind of shape out how it may.’ Honestly, I haven’t really read what’s been happening since. Again, it’s not fun to read, but you try to take what you can from it and be better, I guess.”
Q: Have you encountered any friction in the locker room or sentiment that would suggest what came up in that story?
Carson:
“Not really. Not to get into details about the story or the things that were in that, but no. I hadn’t felt that way. Again, I think every guy in that locker room would say we have a very close locker room, I think everyone can be honest with each other, hold each other accountable, does this and that. And we have an issue, usually we resolve it as brothers, as the family that we are. It’s why I think myself and a handful of other guys were just confused that it came out like that. If there were problems, we just usually handle it and it doesn’t come out the way that did.”
Q: Did it bother you more because of that, if these are teammates that are saying these things about you?
Carson:
“I think it bothers me more because of that and not because it’s me. But if that was about another teammate. In all of our opinion in that locker room, anything that might have friction in the locker room, doesn’t need to come out through the media. It should stay in house. We should be able to handle that stuff in the locker room ourselves.”
Q: “I know you said you kind of block it out, but it is sort of human nature, you read stuff about yourself, did it affect your mood the rest of the day, did you turn your phone off? What was the rest of the day after you read it like?
Carson:
“Without a doubt, you read it and you’re frustrated. Because you’re like, ‘what?’ It kind of came out of nowhere. It was just a regular offseason, I was literally eating breakfast with my wife and John texted me. Literally, we do, like, quiet time in the morning. We eat breakfast and then I go sit on the couch. So I’m about to go read my bible and then I get that text and now I’m reading this. I was going to read my bible and now I’m reading this. It kind of changed my attitude a little bit, but just talking to some teammates that talked to me about it and tried to just figure out why and what can we do to resolve it. But then at the end of the day, I was just like, I went to bed and just on with the next day. I don’t turn on the radio, I don’t read the papers. I’ve been off of Twitter for a while other than posting tweets, so I try not to let that tie me down. But again, the real element of it, just learning. If there is truth in this, where can I improve as a teammate and as a player and all that?”
Q: “How are you planning on handling it, or how have you been handling it to discover whether there was truth and if so how to resolve those issues with whoever may have had a problem?”
Carson:
“Initially I’m like trying to figure out who could it have been. In your mind you play detective. But then you’re like, ‘Does it really matter?’ If there were issues, I think if someone did say those things, they’re probably like, ‘Yeah maybe that’s not how it should have came out.’ You know what I mean? I think if that was said, they probably realize like as a teammate and as a family, we usually handle things in house, like I said. And so, I’m kind of like it doesn’t even matter. I’ll learn from it and we’ll all learn that A, things shouldn’t kind of come out the way it did, and B, the pieces that I can learn from it and be a better teammate and player and all that stuff I will grow from. But other than that, just turn the page.”
Q: “There was one thing from the story that said a highly respected player called you out for not being a team player. Did that happen?”
Carson:
“To go off of what I was saying earlier, I’m not really gonna get into specifics about some of those stories, but I didn’t know what that was. I will say I didn’t know what that was about.”
Q: “You said you looked at some of the things and thought are there things you could do differently. What did you come out with? Was some of it truthful? Are there things to work on?”
Carson:
“Well, I think just some of the… I’m trying to… it seems like forever ago. I’m trying to remember exactly what was said. But like, some of the selfishness and that stuff, well yeah, I’ll be the first to admit I can be selfish. We’re all kind of stubborn in our own right to liking certain plays or liking certain things our way. So in my mind, I’m like, ‘Ok, am I ever over the top with that?’ Like, can I be better? Kind of still be stubborn but with humility more. And just little things like that. But at the same time, just how I treat my teammates, all those things, it just caused me to kind of reflect. I’ll be straight up. It hasn’t been the easiest last year for me on the physical level, just battling the injuries, but then just personally going through it, sitting on the sideline and then playing and then sitting on the sideline again. So I realize like I maybe wasn’t the greatest teammate at times because I was emotionally kind of all over the place. To the outside world, I probably didn’t show it much. But internally, I mean, you’re definitely fighting some sort of emotions as you guys would probably expect. So there’s things to learn just about how to handle myself in certain situations. But nothing really specific from that, other than what I just shared.”
Q: “It seems the context, fair or unfair, is comparing you to Nick. And no matter what happens with Nick, I gotta imagine that won’t go away. How do you plan on dealing with that because I imagine that comparison will exist.”
Carson:
“Again, it’s something there’s nothing you can do about it. For one, I love Nick. Nick and I are great friends and strong believers and we have the same values and everything. We’ll be the first to say that we are different. Like how we go about our days. I’ve learned some things from him. I know he’s learned some things from me. But we’d be the first to say our personalities are kind of different. But that’s why I think we were such good friends to some extent as well. And so, that’s off-topic a little bit but that stuff, I can’t worry about that. That so-called shadow or whatever you want to call it, I can’t let that bother me. I know what I’m capable of on the field. I know what I’ve done in the past, and I know where I envision this team going. And so, I don’t really worry about what’s happened in the past — the shadow, the pressure, the stress. There’s plenty of it. Whether that’s from living in quote that shadow or whatever, there’s plenty of stress and pressure here that you try and block out as much as you can.”
Q: How much did the uniqueness of the situation of the past year and difficulty of the situation of the past year affect your approach to your game or your teammates in the locker room?
Carson:
“That’s a good question and it’s kind of multi-layered a little bit. Just because, you know, you go through the first injury, and you’re just 100 percent determined to get back, that’s like why my mind is on, and looking back were there things that maybe I neglected as a teammate and as a friend because I was just so determined and that’s all that mattered. It was tough because any time you’re hurt you’re really not with the team as much, you’re in the training room more or at practice. You guys saw me in the spring, I was on the other field doing conditioning or sprints or whatever I was working on, so like kind of just have this element of (being) separate a little bit, so there are just elements of that as far as being a teammate that you get so focused on just getting the knee right or getting back that you can miss out on the human side of the things and the personal side of being a teammate and being around your brothers and spending time and all that, so there’s that element that I definitely kind of look back on like, ‘Were there moments or were there opportunities that I just kind of neglected because I put just wanting to be healthy first?’ And so there’s things that you look back and you’re like, ‘OK, that’s something I can’t lose sight of,’ whether you’re going through an injury or you’re 100 percent healthy. Like just being the same person. I’m going to always strive to be the best I can be on the field but just not letting the kind of circumstances change like my attitude, if that makes sense a little bit? It kind of some extent learning just how to handle the different levels of adversity and pressure that come with it. And not let it shake me to some extent and change my approach more than anything….”
Q: “That was more for the locker room. What about on the field? Trying to reassert yourself back into the fray? Did it affect your approach?”
Carson:
“I don’t think so and I don’t think it will. The one thing that even going back for as long as I can remember, when I get the ball in my hand and I’m on the field nothing else really matters. We’re just playing ball. So like on the field I never really felt added pressure to perform or that sort of thing. However big the circumstance or situation is I never really let it change me so I guess to answer your question like coming back it was like, no, I wasn’t really trying to prove to anyone that I was back, I was just happy to be playing again and be out there again so that’s something that I don’t really worry about, going forward, to reassert myself with those things. I’ll just play ball and let that kind of handle itself.”
Q: “You’ve never really been criticized before so this is something new for you. How difficult is that?”
Carson:
“That’s a good question. I think one thing you do think of is coming for the draft, everything’s picked apart. You’re criticized, you’re pumped up, everyone is ripping through you, the good, the bad, the ugly, and so just knowing kind of where I’ve grown up and to some extent you’re right. In college, criticized, never was necessarily, but maybe just looked down upon. That was something coming out, I felt like I had to prove people wrong and that sort of thing. And so I’ve just kind of learned to not worry about other peoples’ perceptions or others’ perspective and really what matters is first, I know what my identity is in Christ first and I’ve got to always keep that in perspective first and foremost and then be a good teammate, being around my brothers and not worrying about the fans and everybody else because you’re never going to make everyone happy and that’s just exhausting trying.”
Q: Bullied Mike Groh and resisted running Foles stuff?
Carson:
“The fact of bullying Mike Groh…Groh and I talked to each other that day when it came out, and I think we all know that never took place. I even go back to the year before with Frank [Reich], I know Frank has gone and said that he and I used to have these competitive arguments, but they’re healthy. That stuff happens. That’s, I think, what good football teams have, the ability to respectfully do that and kind of be stubborn and those things. It was the same way with Groh. In my opinion, he is a very good football mind and in my opinion I feel like I have something to contribute, too, so I thought we had some really healthy dialogue. To say, quote, ‘bullied him,’ I’d say that’s kind of disrespectful to Groh. I don’t think anyone bullies Coach Groh. And then B, I think we have a great relationship and it’s just going to keep getting better. That line, I was kind of blown away with what that would have meant. And then the idea of running Foles’ stuff, we both see the game differently to some extent. But to say I was resistant to running his stuff and then vice versa, there’s so many things to the X’s and O’s of the game, to just say a blanket statement like that just doesn’t necessarily do it justice. We both like different concepts but overall we’re running similar stuff. And we kind of base it off of, what’s the defense giving us…It’s such a blanket statement that there’s too many intricacies to that that don’t necessarily apply.”
Q: But you never said, ‘I’m not running ‘X’?
Carson:
“No.”
Q: Healthy arguments: examples of how those play out?
Carson:
“Not to get into specifics, but there’s plenty of times throughout the week where, like each coach is responsible for certain parts of the game plan, and then I’ll watch film and I’ll bring a play. So it’s third down, I’ll bring it to the coach who works on the third down stuff. I’ll bring up a play and then I’ll try to get it installed, for example, and there’s different level to A, getting it in the game plan, obviously Doug’s got to sign off on it at the end of the day. Maybe I’ll show some film, ‘This is why I think it will work,’ and then they’ll show, ‘But what if we get this. This is why it doesn’t work.’ Stuff like that. You can do that for every single play. It’s kind of this, you want to be on the same page with the coaches, and at the end of the day, on game day, you usually are, but throughout the week there’s those little things like, ‘I’m not feeling that play, coach. This is what they’re showing coverage-wise in this situation, I don’t see it.’ So sometimes we’ll take that play out or we’ll talk through it. And you could view those as arguments, but really I think it’s just for the betterment of the team. We know we’re actually getting somewhere and it’s productive and I think it’s really healthy, and I think the coaches would say the same thing.”
Q: On whether his personality is a “good thing” for a QB and not something he wants to lose:
Carson:
“Yeah, I think for one, I’m 26 years old. My personality, to some extent, ain’t going to change. What’s gotten me here, what’s gotten me successful, I’m not going to say, ‘Oh, now I’m going to have this free-spirited, Cali-guy vibe.’ That’s just not going to change. So to answer your question, I think you’re to some extent correct. The Type-A mindset – there’s things to learn, there’s a fine line. Any time you’re a Type-A guy, there’s a fine line being pushy and shovy and humble and humility and walking that line. Definitely learning to navigate that always and never trying to look down on anybody or make it seem like I’m better than anybody. But at the same time, as a Type-A, so-to-speak, confident person that’s confident in off-the-field things and then on the field with what we like, that’s not going to change. That’s not going to go anywhere. I think that’s something that is a positive if used correctly, yes.”
Q: On how the season unfolded:
Carson:
“Obviously, it was frustrating watching, Again, that’s the No. 1 thing I remember the last two years was watching from the sidelines isn’t fun. I want to do everything I can to be healthy, to stay healthy, and not have to do that again. I thought the offense, I thought it was great. I was ecstatic to see the guys kind of rally. I think it was awesome for Nick to show there wasn’t a fluke. Nick's a heck of a player. But at the same time, there’s the real emotions that, again the same thing, I want to be out there. Here we are again, and when I went down we were losing, and here we’re winning. There’s all those real emotions that you’ve got to battle. But at the end of the day, I thought it was just really cool to see the team from where we were and how we rallied together to get to where we finished. I thought it was cool to see.”
Q: Why did it happen that way?
Carson:
“I don’t know. I think you look back throughout the season, and we’re going to say this every single year, why did we lose that one game? Well, one play, two plays. There’s little plays throughout the year. I don’t want to sound like a broken record. There’s just little things, mis-execution on the offensive side of the ball, defense, special teams. All little things that can culminate. And so we were right there in all those other games. We just didn’t finish. We put it together late in the year, and it’s hard to say exactly why. But we kind of rally around each other and found a way to win, which we really weren’t doing early in the year. Hard to say…exactly why.”
Q: What happens now – how’s your back, what’s your timetable?
Carson:
“It’s getting better. It’s getting better. Any time you have a broken bone, you can’t really rush anything. Even though it is a stress fracture, it’s different. But it’s still fractured. So just trying to progress on pace. So come spring, hopefully we’re out there, we’re working, we never look back. And just keep progressing to the season. And I’m excited. I’m excited to put all this behind me, the injuries, and then do everything I can to just be healthy, stay healthy, and get back on this driver’s seat. I’m excited for where this team’s heading."
Q: How about the knee?
Carson:
“It’s a process. As far as injury prevention, I felt great. I didn’t feel — I felt confident, all those things — but as far as being explosive and all those things, I never quite, and I’m not going to use it as an excuse by any means, but I watched the tape from two years ago, you watch last year, you can say I wasn’t quite there as far as mobility stuff. And that’s something I’ll keep working through. And everyone kind of says it’s an 18-month, two-year thing to get really feeling strong again and back to normal. It’s getting better. It’s going to keep getting better. And I don’t think we’ll worry about hopefully either of these injuries going forward.”
 

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Responding to a January article questioning his character and 2018 attitude, Carson Wentz said "I'm not perfect."PM

Wentz was surprisingly introspective responding to the wave-making PhillyVoice piece, disputing some specific assertions but acknowledging some of its broader strokes. "I know I’m not perfect. I know I have flaws," Wentz said. "So I’m not going to sit here and say it was inaccurate and completely made up. I’m not going to do that." Wentz also said he's unlikely to change. "I’m 26 years old; my personality, to some extent, ain’t going to change. ... It’s what’s gotten me here, what’s gotten me successful. I’m not going to say, ‘Oh, now I’m going to have this free-spirited, Cali-guy vibe.’ That’s just not going to change." They are fascinating, candid answers from a quarterback who has had a bizarre 15 months since injury likely cost him the 2017 MVP award. Wentz will have plenty to prove in 2019. He has the skill to do it.


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If Clement can get over his second year blues, the addition of Howard could be all the team needs at rb, the Blount/Ajayi equivalent of our sb year. Or maybe they also look to the draft as I dont think theres a lot of faith in Adams, Smallwood or Pumphrey.

Either way that's a fairly dangerous looking offence assembled now.
 
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ANDRE DILLARD - JP Mark2? Time will tell though this probably spells the end for Big V in Philly? & as much as ChockNurris had us convinced Mailata was the second coming, I guess this pick means maybe the big Aussie has a ways to go yet.

 
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J.J. ARCEGA-WHITESIDE - Hmmm a big assed wideout? Yes please! Another pick that might see another player out the door, this time Agy? Only so many spots on the roster, hard to see where Agy fits in with Jackson back & now this pick.

 
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SHAREEF MILLER - Nice closing speed, reads like he going to need a lot of work to make the grade.

 

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