Strategy Pick 1 Watch

[Thetrader15]

You are 100% correct, but it simply can't happen.

The teams that need to stand together are;
West Coast (financially strong and independent)
Adelaide (financially ok, but weak as piss)
Fremantle (financially ok, but on borderline)
Port Adelaide (always on AFL life support and handouts)
Brisbane (AFL handouts)
Gold Coast (AFL Handouts)
Sydney (sometimes strong but still need AFL funding to survive)
GWS (building on field, but still on life support off it)

That literally leaves two teams that could stand together, but only one that actually has the strength to do it.

Maybe one day the clubs will be strong enough to stand on their own feet, but it's a long way off. Just as the VFL wants it...

I'd take GC and GWS off the list too, because they are both already owned by the VFL, so they won't do anything.

This hub BS was the perfect time to do it, but only the WA / Qld clubs even made noise about it.

The AFC is such a passive organisation - they don't do anything to disrupt the VFL, never fight for their rights or equality, and do what the boss tells them.

Grow up, get some passion and determination into the club.

 

[Hell Boy6669]

Surely this talk of a lottery is typical Adelaide supporter paranoia. Will not happen.

 

[DJ75]

Surely this talk of a lottery is typical Adelaide supporter paranoia. Will not happen.

If we don't get a full season (and I don't think we will), then I'd say it's more likely than not. I'd say it is based on average ladder position over last 3 years, plus a special something the AFL cook up to manipulate it how they want. Something about current and future likelyhood of ladder position.

GC will get pick 1 or 2. Bookmark it.

 

[Jarman3]

If we don't get a full season (and I don't think we will), then I'd say it's more likely than not. I'd say it is based on average ladder position over last 3 years, plus a special something the AFL cook up to manipulate it how they want. Something about current and future likelyhood of ladder position.

GC will get pick 1 or 2. Bookmark it.

Again, though, I don't see how they can do that without de-legitimising this year's premiership. If they're going to say that the impact of COVID-19 on the season means that they can't determine the draft order in the usual way then there's no way they can say that the premiership is valid, either. In which case they need to just say that there is no finals series and no premier this year, just like they did with the AFLW season.

There's no way that can say with any credibility that the premiership is OK but the draft isn't.

 

[Thetrader15]

#FreePickHawthorn

I can see the 'lottery' results now:

1. Bulldogs (so they can get a pick before JUH)
2. Geelong (Sorry about not playing finals at home boys)
3. GC (see, all these early picks are working - let's keep them going)
4. Richmond (the masses will be happy with this)
5. Collingwood (oh crap, we forgot Collingwood when we gave Richmond pick 4)
6. Essendon (they self reported McKenna and BZT - just unlucky really)
7. Essendon (better give the Don's a pick about here for Joe Daniher)
8. Hawks (they haven't had a top 10 pick for a while)
9. WC (hey, it's going to Geelong anyway)
10. Carlton (thank F they removed SOS, well done lads)
11. Geelong (thanks GC)
12. Sydney (we've got to keep the Sydney market going)
13. North (ok, so who have we missed from Vic...oh year, that's right)
14. Melbourne (this one goes to North as well, let's give them 2 in a row to make up for such a late pick)
15. Port (that's going to Brisbane, they won't complain)
16. Saints (gee, we almost forgot the Saints, but whatever)
17. Freo (these guys aren't much danger)
18. Brisbane (they'll probably trade it anyway)
19. GWS (oh, bad luck Adelaide, but that's about what you would have expected anyway)
20. Adelaide (now no complaining Chappy there's a good boy)
21. Adelaide (Brad Crouch really didn't get that big a contract - it was only just smaller than Joe's)

 

[Grenville]

If we don't get a full season (and I don't think we will), then I'd say it's more likely than not. I'd say it is based on average ladder position over last 3 years, plus a special something the AFL cook up to manipulate it how they want. Something about current and future likelyhood of ladder position.

GC will get pick 1 or 2. Bookmark it.

Nah, if the Premiership counts, then so does the spoon.

Would be as clear to the AFL as it is to many here that AFC list is in real trouble. Future priority pick territory. AFL house has no love for the AFC, but any notion of them denying us pick 1 for the spoon out of spite is paranoia.

 

[Thetrader15]

Again, though, I don't see how they can do that without de-legitimising this year's premiership. If they're going to say that the impact of COVID-19 on the season means that they can't determine the draft order in the usual way then there's no way they can say that the premiership is valid, either. In which case they need to just say that there is no finals series and no premier this year, just like they did with the AFLW season.

There's no way that can say with any credibility that the premiership is OK but the draft isn't.

You're not using the word "credibility" in relation to the VFL are you?

 

[DJ75]

Again, though, I don't see how they can do that without de-legitimising this year's premiership. If they're going to say that the impact of COVID-19 on the season means that they can't determine the draft order in the usual way then there's no way they can say that the premiership is valid, either. In which case they need to just say that there is no finals series and no premier this year, just like they did with the AFLW season.

There's no way that can say with any credibility that the premiership is OK but the draft isn't.

I don't think there will be a premier. I don't think we get a full season.

 

[hey shorty]

I don't think there will be a premier. I don't think we get a full season.

Of course we will.

 

[DJ75]

Of course we will.

How? Half the teams are based in a state that is seeing a sharp increase in Covid cases, including community transmission. It's a matter of time before more players test positive. What happens then?
Unless the VFL take the Trump "no tests = no cases" plan??

 

[hey shorty]

How? Half the teams are based in a state that is seeing a sharp increase in Covid cases, including community transmission. It's a matter of time before more players test positive. What happens then?
Unless the VFL take the Trump "no tests = no cases" plan??

Because it's the AFL, you've just seen how 1 player only has apparently come into contact with McKenna.

One.

They'll get the season done even if it means people are at risk

 

[Geoffa32]

The AFL just made up their own contact tracing to minimise the McKenna full out.


Why would they care about anyone's opinion on changing the draft.

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[Bearded Clam]

So what happens if the bulldogs finish 17th. And decide not to match because they prefer another option instead of JUH. And then you’re stuck with him?

If JUH is as good as most are saying and totally justified as being the pick one and the bulldogs have pick 17 and decide not to “match” as you put it... then they’d be the dumbest organisation ever to grace the game..

Who in their right mind would not give up pick 17 for pick 1 ffs..

Sure.. they could say to themselves.. “oh, we’ll just let him go to Adelaide and then get him back in a couple of years”.. but that’s a massive risk. Plus its a massive kick in the guts to the kid..

What if he ends up enjoying living in adelaide?.. what if he meets, and loses his nuts, over an young Adelaide lass who says no to wanting to move to shitty old melbourne?..

And if he turns out to be a bloody great player with superstar potential.. if he does request a trade to the dogs then Adelaide will demand a massive premium.. A “Kelly” like premium like Geelong have made WC pay..

But I cant see it coming to that.. the dogs would run through all the pros and cons and know exactly what needs to be done..

if the crows have pick 1 and JUH is still the best prospect come draft night.. they will name him, Reidy and Hamish have form when it comes to this... and the dogs will match.. they’d be utterly stupid not to especially if, as in your example, they had pick 17..

 

[Betts are off]

The AFL just made up their own contact tracing to minimise the McKenna full out.


Why would they care about anyone's opinion on changing the draft.

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Because they've got form in they arena already i.e. The 6000 pound gorilla himself Tony Cochrane

Its basic dog psychology with the AFL, it just takes someone with the balls to stand up to them and they end up peeing down their leg!

EDIT: Maybe this could be a good job for Roo this year. Take him out of the football department and just have him bang the door down about VIC bias for 8 months straight.

He's already enemy #1 to Barrett, Caro and the Vic Media, may as well try and get something positive out of that infamy

 

[Tex200]

You think? I think we'd just roll over and take it without a whimper of protest out of West Lakes.

I’ve no doubt we’d send a very strongly worded letter to the AFL.

 

[Geoffa32]

Because they've got form in they arena already i.e. The 6000 pound gorilla himself Tony Cochrane

Its basic dog psychology with the AFL, it just takes someone with the balls to stand up to them and they end up peeing down their leg!

Our club does not have the stones, WCE know how to work the system.

Freo, I am unsure.

No other non Vic club can stand up to the AFL due to funding.

Play on.


We joined their league.

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[Thetrader15]

I’ve no doubt we’d send a very strongly worded letter to the AFL.

So true - it's worked all those other times we've done it, let's give it another go.

The usual response from the AFL:

 

[Betts are off]

Our club does not have the stones, WCE know how to work the system.

Freo, I am unsure.

No other non Vic club can stand up to the AFL due to funding.

Play on.


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Mate, if Tony Cochrane, the Chairman of the biggest nothing club in the comp, who are owned by the AFL can stand up to the AFL and win by simply threatening to be a nuisance, then I think you are selling the rest of the clubs very very short.

Do I think something like this would ever happen? No. See your point regarding stones, or lack thereof
But do I think the AFL would fold like wet origami if the non Vic clubs did threaten to go down this path? Abso-f*****-lutely, quicker then a damn hiccup!

 

[Bearded Clam]

The AFL just made up their own contact tracing to minimise the McKenna full out.


Why would they care about anyone's opinion on changing the draft.

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Wow... only had contact with one other player eh..

How the **** can the AFL be taken seriously if they think that even remotely passes the pub test?..

 

[Vhaluus]

If we don't get a full season (and I don't think we will), then I'd say it's more likely than not. I'd say it is based on average ladder position over last 3 years, plus a special something the AFL cook up to manipulate it how they want. Something about current and future likelyhood of ladder position.

GC will get pick 1 or 2. Bookmark it.

Nah GC are doing well, the AFL will figure they don't need to prop them up so will look at looking after the big Victorian teams.

It'll be something about average draft position over the past decade, so that the likes of Hawthorn and Geelong make out like bandits.

 

[Vhaluus]

The AFL just made up their own contact tracing to minimise the McKenna full out.


Why would they care about anyone's opinion on changing the draft.

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And if the Victorian government had any balls they'd step in and force the AFL to adhere to rules strictly.

But the fact is the Victorian government has been way too soft around Covid which is why they're in a much worse position than any other state.

 

[DJ75]

And if the Victorian government had any balls they'd step in and force the AFL to adhere to rules strictly.

But the fact is the Victorian government has been way too soft around Covid which is why they're in a much worse position than any other state.

A lot of the Victorian economy relies on AFL. No way they want it shut down. They will bend all rules to keep it going.

 

[Vhaluus]

A lot of the Victorian economy relies on AFL. No way they want it shut down. They will bend all rules to keep it going.

Victoria has been too focused on the economy and not on the health of its population. People will die from Covid because of decisions they've made while the rest of the Australian economy will suffer because one state has acted, and continues to act, so poorly.

 

[Dangerousfield]

You are 100% correct, but it simply can't happen.

The teams that need to stand together are;
West Coast (financially strong and independent)
Adelaide (financially ok, but weak as piss)
Fremantle (financially ok, but on borderline)
Port Adelaide (always on AFL life support and handouts)
Brisbane (AFL handouts)
Gold Coast (AFL Handouts)
Sydney (sometimes strong but still need AFL funding to survive)
GWS (building on field, but still on life support off it)

That literally leaves two teams that could stand together, but only one that actually has the strength to do it.

Maybe one day the clubs will be strong enough to stand on their own feet, but it's a long way off. Just as the VFL wants it...

Divide and conquer is the VFL's technique and has worked a treat for them and the power Melbourne clubs. Time for the non Vic clubs to form an alliance and demand a more even playing field. It's shown up when you have Melbourne clubs playing at Kardinia Park for the first time in two decades and I don't think any of the Melbourne heavyweights have ever had to play a game in Tasmania.

And don't get me started on the draft and FA!

 

[JennyTalia]

Have been self-isolating under a rock and so have little idea of what is going on with U18 championship this year. Any word about when they get a chance to play?

I need some stand out junior performances to keep my hopes up amidst our current horror show. I know he's out with a knee this year but I love the look of elijah hollands